The New Xbox Dashboard 06.12.2011

tipperaryboy

Still no youtube date announced "In addition to all these great dashboard features, starting on December 6th and continuing on an ongoing basis through the holiday months, a wealth of new content will be coming to Xbox 360. New, customized applications for television, movies, internet videos, sports and music will begin rolling out from world-leading providers in more than 20 countries.

DjFlin

I'm still waiting on NTFS memory support. Its insane to me that Microsoft wont support their own file system, its not even like its new, Its been a Windows staple for over a decade. The Xbox even supports Mac formatted hard drives.

calex71

DjFlin wrote: »

I'm still waiting on NTFS memory support. Its insane to me that Microsoft wont support their own file system, its not even like its new, Its been a Windows staple for over a decade. The Xbox even supports Mac formatted hard drives.

It's not that simple, with an understanding of the NTFS file system and it being used by MS you'd realise it would likely never happen. NTFS permissions being the big one i'd say, but sure it's totally secure ..... once you don't connect an NTFS drive to a Linux machine which simply ignores NFTS permissions and grants you access to everything on the drive

DjFlin

calex71 wrote: »

It's not that simple, with an understanding of the NTFS file system and it being used by MS you'd realise it would likely never happen. NTFS permissions being the big one i'd say, but sure it's totally secure ..... once you don't connect an NTFS drive to a Linux machine which simply ignores NFTS permissions and grants you access to everything on the drive

Yeah, its a real shame. I can understand why they dont want to support .mkv filetypes, but I'd love NTFS support. Mostly so I wouldnt need to partition my external drive, the 4GB file limit in FAT32 kills me.

I wonder what the odds of supporting exFAT are?

That same feature has saved my bacon many a time.

calex71

DjFlin wrote: »

That same feature has saved my bacon many a time.

Me and the peoples files I've rescued off "dead" windows machines, insert ubuntu live disc, mount drive..... copy copy

Wish it would support mkv but then they would be a HD tool of piracy instead of the SD tool it is now

DjFlin

All in all, I'm quite upset with the new update. The Metro design is good, but badly utilised. Its very shamelessly used, up to 80% of screen space is advertising, making me question what exactly I'm paying €60 a year for.

For anyone doubting my statement about the 80% ad space, I've attached a screenshot that explains it.

[I'd like to point out that the screenshot I used is from Engadget, because I cant legally share images of the preview due to the non-disclosure agreement]

calex71 wrote: »

Me and the peoples files I've rescued off "dead" windows machines, insert ubuntu live disc, mount drive..... copy copy

Wish it would support mkv but then they would be a HD tool of piracy instead of the SD tool it is now

I keep a 512MB memory stick with a small Linux distro for just such occasions. Always handy.


I see .mkv support arriving once people stop using .mkv, just like how DivX did. :pac:

evolutionqy7

Before we had a whole lane of game ads. Nothing changed. Its just arranged differently and might seem as there are more ads.

I dont really consider these too much as ads. Its just raising awarnes of whats going on.

I personally find them useful sometimes there were a few games ive never seen or heard of before that i found interesting just by clicking on those :P

gizmo

DjFlin wrote: »

All in all, I'm quite upset with the new update. The Metro design is good, but badly utilised. Its very shamelessly used, up to 80% of screen space is advertising, making me question what exactly I'm paying €60 a year for.

For anyone doubting my statement about the 80% ad space, I've attached a screenshot that explains it.

In fairness, the current Dashboard does basically the same thing between the My XBox and Games Marketplace tab. There's only so much local data you can actually show in the Games tab too, what else would you like to have seen there as a matter of interest?

As for the ads themselves, well clever use of them isn't necessarily a bad thing. I mean, in the example you gave, there's an ad for the Summer of Arcade, never a bad thing to remind your users about the current deals that are available. Same goes for the Deal of the Week and even newly added content. God knows we have enough Indie's complaining about the lack of promo space they get on the service.

Squaredude

DjFlin wrote: »

All in all, I'm quite upset with the new update. The Metro design is good, but badly utilised. Its very shamelessly used, up to 80% of screen space is advertising, making me question what exactly I'm paying €60 a year for.

€60 a year :eek: I pay €35 for mine

DjFlin

So, has it been confirmed that the YouTube app is coming out with the official release of the Dash? Or is it coming later?

I wonder what the App platform will be like. Maybe we'll see developer tools and an app ecosystem like the WP7/iOS/Android App Stores. That'd be pretty cool.

RTE and TV3 should totally look into getting their web players into the App Market. Though I wouldnt hold my breath on that. :pac:

gizmo wrote: »

There's only so much local data you can actually show in the Games tab too, what else would you like to have seen there as a matter of interest?

Well, I'd like it to be more like Windows Phone and Windows 8, where you can pin things to the home screen. Games you play, favorite videos, etc.

Otherwise, I'd like the ads to be aware of what I've got. For example, ever time turn on my 360 now, I'm bombarded with ads for games and map packs I already own.
When your looking at a game, it has a "Similar Titles" pane. They should utilise that for the ad space. "Oh, he already has the Halo Anniversary Map Pack, well maybe he'd like to buy X"


Honestly, I think I was expecting too much from this update, that's why I'm so disappointed. I was really hoping for a pinnable home screen like Windows Phone/8. Instead of the Faux metro style it does use.

allanb49

So what services will Ireland be getting,


or will we be getting a "condensed" version like last time,

tipperaryboy

allanb49 wrote: »

So what services will Ireland be getting,


or will we be getting a "condensed" version like last time,

4oD,Youtube and VEVO are freely available on pc etc at the moment and all three have been confirmed to be coming to xbox so i would expect they will be available to us on the console.
Would be fantastic if these were available from the official start date if only

ShaneU

Still can't choose which notifications you receive :mad:

chin_grin

Squaredude wrote: »

€60 a year :eek: I pay €35 for mine

Apologies for hijacking a bit, but where did you get it for 35? (Thanks).

unklerosco

chin_grin wrote: »

Apologies for hijacking a bit, but where did you get it for 35? (Thanks).

http://www.live-codes.com/products.php?con=Xbox

Thats where I get mine....

allanb49

Will you have to pay extra or will they be like the twitter/facebook addons only giving partial access though

Captain Chaos

allanb49 wrote: »

Will you have to pay extra or will they be like the twitter/facebook addons only giving partial access though

They'ed want to give all that for free or just Gold members looking at what PSN now gives for free.

As it is you have to pay extra for Sky and Netflix.

What do you mean partial access on the FB and T apps, that's the way the apps work like on a smartphone, it's not the full website you have access to.

Youtube will most likely be the same, not the full featured site but most of it through the app again like a smartphone.

Want the full features you need a web browser and the Xbox is not getting one in the near future unless MS changes it's policy on that front. Besides who wants to browse the web using IE9 on the 360. It's bad enough on the PS3 browser.

DjFlin

ShaneU wrote: »

Still can't choose which notifications you receive :mad:

Things like this are what annoy me the most, minor issues that could be easily sorted. But they're completely ignored.

allanb49

Captain Chaos wrote: »

What do you mean partial access on the FB and T apps, that's the way the apps work like on a smartphone, it's not the full website you have access to.

Youtube will most likely be the same, not the full featured site but most of it through the app again like a smartphone.

It just seems the Facebook integration isn't utilised well, you can look at pictures on it and update but just a little bit more functionality.

Captain Chaos

allanb49 wrote: »

It just seems the Facebook integration isn't utilised well, you can look at pictures on it and update but just a little bit more functionality.

Yeah they might add more. They did add a feature in this beta but I don't think I can say much about it. It's only a small thing anyway that can be used as bragging rights to other gamers.

allanb49

Something like the ps3 in X has unlocked this while playing this.

calex71

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Yeah they might add more. They did add a feature in this beta but I don't think I can say much about it. It's only a small thing anyway that can be used as bragging rights to other gamers.

Yeah, when your achievement unlocks you can hit the guide button and have it posted to FB or twitter

Captain Chaos

calex71 wrote: »

Yeah, when your achievement unlocks you can hit the guide button and have it posted to FB or twitter

You can even select any cheveo you have ever have unlocked in your game history and post it up.

allanb49

Captain Chaos wrote: »

You can even select any cheveo you have ever have unlocked in your game history and post it up.

YES, I can finally show off my Hannah Montana 1000 GS :cool:

calex71

allanb49 wrote: »

YES, I can finally show off my Hannah Montana 1000 GS :cool:

DjFlin

Theres a new update out. Downloading now.

DrGreenthumb

new dash is due on the 6th, i doubt the update you got prompted for was the new dash

DjFlin

DrGreenthumb wrote: »

new dash is due on the 6th, i doubt the update you got prompted for was the new dash

I'm aware of that. Its an update to the preview.

Havent noticed any changes yet.

Dozyart

DjFlin wrote: »

Havent noticed any changes yet.

Seems to have just added Zune.

DjFlin

Dozyart wrote: »

Seems to have just added Zune.

Added? Zune has always been there.