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JC, tell us about the GOAT's!?
When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. Matthew 25 :31
I feel like Heidi on this forum
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hooradiation wrote: »I'm doubting you.
You've provided nothing to back up your claim.
The burden of proof lies with you. I suggest you get on with it.
When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. Matthew 25 :310 -
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FreudianSlippers wrote: »I don't want to download your silly books, can you not just enlighten us with your wise words?
Jesus I trust in you,
Jesus, may Your pure and healthy blood circulate in my poor ailing organism, and may Your pure and healthy body transform my weak unhealthy body, and may a healthy and vigorous life flowing once again within me, if it is truly Your Holy Will. Amen.0 -
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Cookie_Monster wrote: »This thread is gold!
For the safety of the OP (and everyone else) I think a long trip to the Central Mental Hospital may be in order.
The GArdai already tried that and if you read the posts I have passed 4 psychiatric exams0 -
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O Holy Spirit, Soul of my soul, I adore You. Enlighten, guide, strengthen and console me. Tell me what I ought to do and command me to do it. I promise to be submissive in everything that You permit to happen to me, only show me what is Your will.0 -
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Knock Knock.....whos there...Jesus....Jesus who?.....:
Behold I stand at the door and knock – Revelation 3:20
Knock and the door will be opened to you Luke 11:9KNOCK 1879
Before reading the mystery of light that occurred in Knock it is
important that we recall the writings of the Irish Prophet St.
Columbkille “The clergy shall be led into error, by their
misinterpretation of their reading.” This is not to say the
church or Vatican purposely led people into error, it just
suggests that they may through no fault of their own
misinterpret something. Knock, Co Mayo is located near the
Holy Mountain of St. Patrick also known as The Hill of Mary
(Zion). Praise the Lord our God, and worship at his sacred hill.
The Lord our God is Holy. Psalm 99:9.
If you believe in the vision that occurred in Knock, then you
have to accept the witnesses testimony and as you read it you
will begin to see they were not sure who the third figure was
that was cast in this mysterious light. Ergo you must also
accept that the church did all they could based on the evidence
they had. They based their beliefs on the same thing you did,
the testimony of good Irish Catholic People.
If you do not believe or indeed do not know what occurred in
Knock, brace yourself.
The church in Knock is named after St John the Baptist whom
of course prepared people for the first coming of the messiah.
The apparition took place one day after the feast of Abraham
who is known as “Our Father in Faith” in the Catholic Church.
The apparition took place at the back wall of the Church
outside. On the reverse side of this wall is the altar inside the
church. The altar carved in marble depicts the nativity scene,
Jesus surrounded by Angels, the four Gospel writers and below
the altar is the 13th station of the cross in marble, Mary
receives the Body of Jesus. Either side of the altar is adorned
with a statue of Mary and Joseph and above these two statues
are stained glass windows depicting Holy Spirit scenes. The
biggest clue as to why this church was chosen, if indeed any
more clues were needed is the stained glass window above the
altar itself. It depicts the scene from John chapter 4 when
Jesus meets the woman at the well and lets her know he is the
water of life. The top of the stained glass window has a chalice
the chalice that the Son will drink from when he returns for his
second coming.
August 21st 1879
County Mayo, Ireland was close to the brink of another famine
in 1879. It was; for all intensive purposes a normal Irish
summers evening in the small town of Knock. There was little
more than a church, a school and a few shops in this bog side
village that was about to shoot to international fame.
It was a Thursday, about 8pm and it was raining. Mary Byrne
was just one of 15 people that would later be called to give an
eye witness account of the miraculous event that she saw.
There were no means of modern communication available,
back then people still relied on their senses, and their eyes
would not fail them on this occasion.
Mary McLoughlin was aged 45 and was employed as the
housekeeper to Archdeacon Cavanagh, the local priest. En
route to her friend‟s cottage, that of Mary Byrne, Mrs
McLoughlin stopped by the parish church and noticed some
new illuminated statue like figures which she presumed the
church had acquired from Dublin to decorate the grounds. It
was not until she returned about 15 minutes later with her
friend to lock up the church that the two realised what was
before them. Another witness also passed by the church but
paid no attention to the lights until she too returned later in
the evening.
As it dawned on them that they were not statues purchased to
decorate the grounds they both exclaimed simultaneously
“They are moving! It is the Blessed Virgin.” The lights could be
seen from far away. One man who lived a half mile away could
see the glow at the church on the evening from his home and
remarked to folk that it looks like the church is on fire from
here. That is how powerful the heavenly rays were. This
witness did not know that an apparition was occurring.
In immense heavenly light, there appeared the figures of Our
Lady, St Joseph and a third figure that they did not recognise.
There also appeared a plain altar upon which there sat a lamb
with a cross and the altar was surrounded with angels. The
altar in the apparition was directly below the stained glass
window of the church that depicts the scene of Jesus being the
water of life. Naturally when (and if) one sees such a heavenly
apparition, there starts a rollercoaster of emotions instantly.
Confusion, bewilderment, surprise, awe, fear, joy and a sense
of complete calmness with peace all at the same time. Within
minutes the 2 ladies were joined by 13 other witnesses and
they all stood in awe and began praying. The age range of the
witnesses was from 6 to 75, the account of their experience
was all the same:
The figures they saw before them were all about 2 feet from
the ground and appeared as though suspended in mid air. The
Blessed Virgin Mary was dressed in white robes with a golden
crown upon her head that also had a golden rose at the brow.
The crown sparkled with gems in the shape of crosses. Our
Lady also had a yellow vestment over the robe that she wore.
Dressed in white and yellow and with a gem encrusted golden
crown and a golden yellow rose upon her brow. Our Lady was
in an attitude of prayer with her hands raised to shoulder level
and her eyes upwards towards heaven.
St Joseph appeared with head bowed, as if in total respect to
Our Lady. He wore brilliant white robes and had greyish hair.
The third figure was unknown to the 15 witnesses. It was
suggested on the evening in question by Mary Byrne that the
third figure resembled a statue of St John the Evangelist
which she had previously seen in another church. As nobody
knew who the third figure before them was they all agreed
that possibly it was that of St John, but in their testimony it
was recorded that this was just their opinion and they were
not sure. Without knowing who it was, they all agreed that it
must be St John the Evangelist, but they left it open to
speculation.
The difference between this figure before them and the statue
the witness referred to was that the man in this apparition was
wearing a mitre (small white skull cap) similar to that worn by
a Pope. The third figure stood with what appeared to be a
book of gospels in his left hand with his right arm raised and
angled towards Our Lady. He also had his index finger and
middle finger raised with the other fingers tucked
underneath his thumb and looked as though he was trying to
get a message across to an audience in the form of preaching.
One witness was said to be able to read the gospel passage
but there is no available published evidence of this.
Before you decide whether you believe this or not it is vitally
important you ask yourself if this story was made up, why
would the people all describe the same vision and state they
did not recognise the third figure. If this story was made up
they would have kept their stories simple and not included
details such as an anonymous third figure. They told the truth
and described what they could as best they could because they
were witnessing a piece of worldwide history. If you still
disbelieve you will become part of history as opposed to part of
the future that this history is shaping today.
The people remained in awe in the rain reciting prayers and
the rosary. They were obviously drenched, but there was no
rain falling in the direction of the vision, in fact the ground
underneath the vision was incredibly dry. After about 2 hours
when the vision had disappeared, the ground became wet.
What these people were witnessing was in fact a prophetic
vision from providence, but what did it mean?
The Vision in Knock seemed to confuse the church. There was
no message from Our Lady, no speaking, just a visualisation.
It differed to previous apparitions particularly those in La
Salette and Lourdes, where on both occasions Our Lady
encouraged the recital of the rosary and penance. One thing
was for sure and that was that the sacrficial lamb, the second
coming of the Son of God it would appear would come from
Ireland and would be related to a Pope preaching. A pope
however had never been to Ireland. Would the Pope be the
lamb or would the sacrificial lamb come after the Pope‟s
arrival? There was no doubt in the minds of The Vatican that
Ireland played an official role in the second coming in some
way shape or form.
There was of course an enquiry set up almost immediately.
Within 6 weeks it was confirmed that the eye witness accounts
were credible, trustworthy and satisfactory. People began to
arrive in Knock from all parts of Ireland and overseas and
many miraculous cures were reported which Archdeacon
Cavanagh began recording in a diary. It is important to
emphasise that these people were deeply religious and would
not have made up such a story. A 6 year old boy gave an
account of what he saw time and time again as did the other
14. All the stories matched even when these people were
questioned separately. These people rarely sinned so to think
they made up a story about the Mother of God to trick
everyone is just ignorance on the part of mankind today. Not
everyone sins so freely contrary to popular belief.
Visitors came from near and afar. People began taking
souvenirs with them from the brick wall of the church and they
had to seal off the area. Newspapers across the world reported
the story. The first reported miracle is given complete medical
backing by the Father of Oscar Wilde who was a leading ear
doctor. Dr Wilde had been the last of a string of doctors that a
deaf man had visited in the hope he could cure his lifelong
deafness. Dr Wilde was the leading ear specialist of the day
and he told the man his long term deafness was incurable.
The patient heard of this miracle town in the West and decided
to pay it a visit. Within minutes of entering the church the man
began to hear for the first time in his life. Dr Wilde who was
not catholic attested that there was no medical explanation for
the sudden recovery of this patient. Leading ear doctors do not
go on record stating such things could be miracles unless they
fully accept it may just be. As pilgrims arrived from afar so too
did doctors testimonies with several writing to the Archdeacon
to confirm their patients had mysteriously healed themselves.
There is a record of healings and miracles.
The title "Our lady of Knock, Queen of Ireland" was bestowed
on the Blessed Virgin and Knock received full recognition from
The Vatican even though its true meaning was not understood.
The Vatican knew that something happened here, fully
believed it and knew eventually it would be understood in time
to come. The Mother of God does not manifest on earth in
silence unless she has good reason to.
In 1936, a second enquiry was set up to reinvestigate the
vision to see if anything was overlooked, The Vatican were
eager to try and understand what this silent vision meant and
to see if it could throw any light on the visions of Fatima in
1917. With only 3 of the visionaries still alive, their testimony
remained the same even after 57 years. Mary Byrne, lying on
her death bed and under oath verified exactly what she had
said in 1879. The 6 year old boy who was now in manhood still
reiterated his version of events. Vatican officials travelled to
New York to interview him as he emigrated from the shores of
Ireland. The Church was still left bewildered. They approved
and backed the apparition but did not truly understand the
prophetic vision.
In 1979, 100 years later Pope John Paul II arrived in Ireland
for a whirlwind tour and in one of many memorable speeches
he announced to the flock that had gathered to see him in
Knock “I am at the heart of my pilgrimage". This further
endorsed the apparition. The Pope also gave a wonderful
golden crown to the parish in order to fully recognise his
approval that The Queen of Ireland did indeed appear in
Knock. Despite the fact the Pope appeared in Dublin, Galway
and many other leading cities, he chose to announce that
appearing at Knock was for some reason the goal of his
mission. Now why would a man who Time Magazine named
person of the year say that a small bog side village in Ireland
was the goal of his pilgrimage? Many of course will testify that
the Pope knew he was that third figure.
Although there were the usual doubters and sceptics, Knock
without a true explanation of what the apparition really meant
was not as popular a place for pilgrims to attend as Lourdes or
Fatima much to the delight of those that passed the vision off
as a "bunch of nonsense" from a crowd of "drunken Irish
people".
Whatever occurred in Knock changed the people of Ireland. It
created “The Mothers of Knock”. Even 100 years later, it didn‟t
matter which of your friends house you entered there was
always a little altar or picture in the hallway of Our Lady. The
faithful Mothers of Ireland whom stayed true to their devotions
always had faith in this apparition trusting their intuition as
Mothers that guided them to believe that our Lady would not
simply appear in silence unless she had good reason to.
On Thursday September 12th 1963, A Father Horan was
transferred to Knock Parish as curate, and from 1967 as Parish
Priest. He remained here until his untimely death on August
1st 1986. Often referred to as the 'Builder of Knock' he
undertook to improve the facilities at Knock for pilgrims and
parishioners alike. His main achievements during this time
were :
The building of the new church of 'Our Lady, Queen of Ireland',
which was blessed and dedicated on July 18th 1976. The
church is large enough to accommodate 10,000 people and
covers one acre of ground. It was a gigantic undertaking,
which required the collaboration of church authorities,
architects, contractors and workers and Monsignor Horan had
the responsibility of overseeing the whole operation. On
September 30th 1979, Pope John Paul II raised the new
church to the dignity of Basilica.
The invitation to Pope John Paul II and subsequent acceptance
to visit Knock for the centenary celebrations in 1979. It took
the vision and courage of Msgr. Horan to think on the scale,
which the events of this visit dictated. It has been said that if
one man brought the Pope to this country, it was James
Horan. Over 450,000 people came to Knock on that day.
His third and equally amazing achievement was the building of
Horan International Airport. The fact that a Parish Priest in the
west of Ireland could be responsible for a multi-million pound
airport seemed unrealistic and unattainable. When the first
flight out of Knock Airport, destined for Rome, departed on
October 24th 1985, Msgr. Horan stated that it was 'the
greatest day in the history of Connacht for a hundred years'.
He showed his true character and sheer determination in
achieving this impressive goal.
Two months after the official opening of the airport, Msgr.
Horan went on pilgrimage to Lourdes with members of his
family and friends. He died unexpectedly on that pilgrimage
on August 1st. His body was flown from Lourdes to Knock and
was the first funeral to fly into Knock airport.
Despite the fact there were numerous miracles recorded and
Knock received Vatican approval, many people were highly
sceptical purely because not only was the apparition silent and
no message was given but there was also a third figure in the
apparition that remained unidentifiable. Since 1879 it has been
taken that Our Lady did indeed appear with St Joseph and St
John the Evangelist along with an altar upon which sat a lamb
surrounded by angels. What nobody expected is that Our Lady
would one day return to Ireland to explain this mystical vision
so that it would all make sense. Knock was an integral part of
The Marian Code as it predicted the future of what was to
come; the apparition said it all and there was no need for an
audible message. The sacrificial lamb would come from
Ireland.
In hindsight the message of Knock could not have been any
clearer; Our Lady appeared in heavenly light to announce the
coming of the Mysteries of Light. As one reads the messages
left by Our Lady in previous apparitions, it becomes quite clear
that the world has been given ample notice of the second
coming (The II Coming) and how to prepare for it but most
have chosen to ignore it. Providence has spent centuries
preparing us for the second coming, but of course there are
many that felt they were God and took the laws of the world
into their own hands only to find that God is now coming back
to claim ownership of the very world he created.
Unfortunately for the world we have ignored Our Lady's
repeated requests of Prayer Penance and Peace in favour of a
lifestyle which we feel suits us better thus putting the bible to
the back of our minds and so Our Lady's predictions of
pestilence, plagues, famines, wars and a multitude of other
disasters have started to become reality............but in the end
her immaculate heart will triumph.
Not only was Our Lady coming to Ireland to declare The
Second Coming but also sowing the seeds of her intention to
earn the title of Coredemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate.
August 21st is the Feast day of the Queen of Ireland, Our Lady
of Knock. The apparition occurred on the eve of The Feast of
The Queenship of Mary and The Feast of The Immaculate
Heart of Mary which is celebrated on August 22nd annually. St
Joseph whom had just been declared by The Vatican as head
of The Universal Church made a rare appearance. This was the
Holy family but who was that third figure in the prophecy from
Providence? Why did Providence give us so many Gifted
Prophetic Irish Saints? Why is the Royal County of Meath
steeped in history? Why? Why is Ireland chosen?
Within this mystery cast in light there was a third man dressed
in white with a small round skull cap, similar to a Pope and not
too dissimilar to that same Pope shown to three children in
Fatima some 38 years later and not too dissimilar to a Pope
that visited Knock some 100 years later...... The Marian Code
was getting deeper and deeper, the light shining ever so
brighter and brighter, Madonna Of Ireland, Our Lady of
Ireland, Queen of Ireland, Our Lady of Knock, guide me with
thy light. Guide you she will.
The Vatican could hardly announce to the world that they knew
this was the sign that the Second Coming was approaching.
Although they were not 100% sure they knew there were no
coincidences in Providence. All they could do was add this to
their growing list of evidence that Ireland was chosen by God
to lead the world into a new era. Nor did they know that a lot
more evidence would come their way some of which they
would ignore showing they too are human like the rest of us.
In 2007 The Vatican were informed that the third figure was
not St John the Evangelist and were asked to conduct a new
enquiry based on new information so they could correct their
mistake and teach the people properly. This would have
involved them admitting mistakes were made and that for over
100 years people were led to believe it was St John and rather
than admit their error and assist correct the mistake they
ignored it and willingly allowed people to continue visiting the
grotto and praying to St John the Evangelist. Had they of
corrected the mistake it would have meant millions around the
world would have benfitted and understood the second coming
better but again they declined fearing it would make them look
like Godless fools. Eventually when they come out of their self
created dark abyss the statue in Knock at the shrine of St John
will be replaced wit a statue of St John Paul II. The Vatican and
Irish Catholic Church however will still come out of it looking
like Godless fools once the people realise they knew and did
nothing about it.0
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