Gallagher : Good businessman or snout seeking trough

marienbad

The great thing about democracy is that we don't have to prove anything in order to cast our vote. We just have to make up our minds on the information available.

And on that basis Sean G, is just another Fianna Fail hack who did'nt even have the balls to run under his true colours . And in that way he is true to his origins in doing and saying and becoming anything to get elected .

KELTICKNIGHTT

cardwizzard wrote: »

You didn't answer my question.

read the thread and I did answer question unlike sf supporters
are you lost ?

KELTICKNIGHTT

marienbad wrote: »

The great thing about democracy is that we don't have to prove anything in order to cast our vote. We just have to make up our minds on the information available.

And on that basis Sean G, is just another Fianna Fail hack who did'nt even have the balls to run under his true colours . And in that way he is true to his origins in doing and saying and becoming anything to get elected .

and other candidates won't say anything to get elected ,None of them are saint's

jmayo

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

gay mitchell is poor,why did fg pick him ?

I actually believe Kenny wanted Cox and the parliamentary party decided that they were going to remind Kenny they had power after the last time they went against him he whipped their ar**es.
McGuinness would have been the best candidate as Cox would probably be seen as too pro EU.
Coxs advantage would have been his connections if he had been elected.
McGuinness is presentable and has experience in Europe so would have done alright.

Anyway it was typical FG where just when they are about to do alright they shoot themselves in the foot.

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

norris and letters,will haunt him yet
as far as sean g goes.its a toss between michael d and sean g for number 1 and 2,will wait till end to decide

There is a stink of ff about gallagher and for me that means I am out.

raymon

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

so you don't like ff people mostly and you paint everyone with same brush in ff ?

I didnt say that ,...... I dislike dishonest people .

Lately that had mostly been FFers like Gallagher , Callely , o Dea , etc

I also acknowledge that some honest people are in FF , but Sean Gallagher isn't one of them

in addition there is no evidence to suggest that he is a good businessman ... a spoofer for the most part.

raymon

I wonder is the sweetshop that he charged 500 for useless advice.

Gypsies

I dislike dishonest people too which is why SG won't be getting my vote. Fianna fail and dodgy business people brought this country to it's knees and I find it worrying that so many people are now bowing to a man with fianna fail connections and questionable actions with regard to business and money.. How quick some people forget. Reigning as president of ireland is not like running a business and I don't care how many times he may say it, he will not be able to create jobs in ireland. Wake up people!

KELTICKNIGHTT

jmayo wrote: »

I actually believe Kenny wanted Cox and the parliamentary party decided that they were going to remind Kenny they had power after the last time they went against him he whipped their ar**es.
McGuinness would have been the best candidate as Cox would probably be seen as too pro EU.
Coxs advantage would have been his connections if he had been elected.
McGuinness is presentable and has experience in Europe so would have done alright.

Anyway it was typical FG where just when they are about to do alright they shoot themselves in the foot.



There is a stink of ff about gallagher and for me that means I am out.

are you saying mc guinness fine gael

KELTICKNIGHTT

raymon wrote: »

I didnt say that ,...... I dislike dishonest people .

Lately that had mostly been FFers like Gallagher , Callely , o Dea , etc

I also acknowledge that some honest people are in FF , but Sean Gallagher isn't one of them

in addition there is no evidence to suggest that he is a good businessman ... a spoofer for the most part.

have you ran a business ?

CDfm

jmayo wrote: »

One thing that is not assertion but fact is that gallagher was very involved at a pretty high level in the ff party (national executive member, campaign launcher, fund rasier for taoiseach, offical campaign launcher, would be TD election candidate.)
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As I have said before -(I have pointed out that the likes of David Begg of ICTU and the Central Bank had more influence and real power, probably more than a lot of government ministers in the FF Government up to and including Willie O'Dea and continues to do so to this day. Nobody should object to CAlling the Labour Party the Political Wing of ICTU)

Gallagher did not hold elected office and neither did he hold any policy making position anywhere.

So you are making him out to be something he was not.

He was a member of and supporter of Fianna Fail - so what - Labour also comprises members of the party formerly known as Sinn Fein -the Workers Party -the political wing of the Official IRA.

marienbad

CDfm wrote: »

As I have said before -(I have pointed out that the likes of David Begg of ICTU and the Central Bank had more influence and real power, probably more than a lot of government ministers in the FF Government up to and including Willie O'Dea and continues to do so to this day. Nobody should object to CAlling the Labour Party the Political Wing of ICTU)

Gallagher did not hold elected office and neither did he hold any policy making position anywhere.

So you are making him out to be something he was not.

He was a member of and supporter of Fianna Fail - so what - Labour also comprises members of the party formerly known as Sinn Fein -the Workers Party -the political wing of the Official IRA.

So what you ask. Well possibly for the same reasons so few voted for Fianna Fail so recently- that they bankrupted the country. And if SG was chairing 5000 euro lunches for Brian Cowen along with his other party activities then he was playing a substantial role in keeping those people in power.

CDfm

marienbad wrote: »

So what you ask. Well possibly for the same reasons so few voted for Fianna Fail so recently- that they bankrupted the country. And if SG was chairing 5000 euro lunches for Brian Cowen along with his other party activities then he was playing a substantial role in keeping those people in power.

I am not an FF supporter and I was only pointing out that his influence politically was limited.

In context, his influence on policy.if he had any, was not even close to that of David Begg of ICTU.

raymon

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

have you ran a business ?

I have never misrepresented my business success and I am not running for the highest office in the land.

I don't want to change your mind please vote for Gallagher. A certain section of the population will.

KELTICKNIGHTT

raymon wrote: »

I have never misrepresented my business success and I am not running for the highest office in the land.

I don't want to change your mind please vote for Gallagher. A certain section of the population will.

RAYMON
before all these threads specially by you about Sean Gallagher ,I didn't look at Sean g as candidate much ,but the more ,there was posted negative about him in threads here,more interested i got to why,is there a reason ?
I'm thinking is he a threat to other supporters of other candidates,Looks like it
All threads and posts like your's will only give more support towards sean g
Time will tell

marienbad

CDfm wrote: »

I am not an FF supporter and I was only pointing out that his influence politically was limited.

In context, his influence on policy.if he had any, was not even close to that of David Begg of ICTU.

Yeah and I would'nt vote for him either but it is a mute point as he is not running. SG is.

CDfm

marienbad wrote: »

Yeah and I would'nt vote for him either but it is a mute point as he is not running. SG is.

The example was to do with SG's political power and influence something that gets exaggerated..

Excluding someone from your list should be done for the right reasons.

An important qiestion for me on Gay Mitchell was his views on same sex relationships and I am still unsure about the answer he gave.

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2011/08/12/gay-mitchell-let-the-hare-sit-just-nowhere-near-the-penguin/

And excluding a candidate because of their religios beliefs would be wrong too.

The joke " I'm voting Mitchell because we need a Gay in the Aras" is dead on.

charlemont

JohnnyTodd wrote: »

I'm from Louth and know people who know him personally. They say his brains were scraped from the inside of a turnip.

Not sure what to think. Definitely not my first choice.

Thats brilliant !! I agree too.

marienbad

CDfm wrote: »

The example was to do with SG's political power and influence something that gets exaggerated..

Excluding someone from your list should be done for the right reasons.

An important qiestion for me on Gay Mitchell was his views on same sex relationships and I am still unsure about the answer he gave.

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2011/08/12/gay-mitchell-let-the-hare-sit-just-nowhere-near-the-penguin/

And excluding a candidate because of their religios beliefs would be wrong too.

The joke " I'm voting Mitchell because we need a Gay in the Aras" is dead on.

How do you know his influence is exaggerated ?

I can only assume that his views are the same views of the party to which he so recently belonged . After all he has said very little to contradict that throughout the campaign.

I am excluding him for the right reasons. On top of those already given I can list a few more if you like .

jmayo

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

are you saying mc guinness fine gael

Ehh yes Mairead McGuinness MEP.
I hold martin mcguinness in more contempt than gallagher.

CDfm wrote: »

As I have said before -(I have pointed out that the likes of David Begg of ICTU and the Central Bank had more influence and real power, probably more than a lot of government ministers in the FF Government up to and including Willie O'Dea and continues to do so to this day. Nobody should object to CAlling the Labour Party the Political Wing of ICTU)

Gallagher did not hold elected office and neither did he hold any policy making position anywhere.

So you are making him out to be something he was not.

He was a member of and supporter of Fianna Fail - so what - Labour also comprises members of the party formerly known as Sinn Fein -the Workers Party -the political wing of the Official IRA.

Ahh FFS you continually try and muddy the waters with reference to Labour and unions. Now you have added the old chestnut of SFWP.

And once again I will reiterate that some of the most influential people within a party are not necessarily elected and may not even be on policy committees etc.
Having connection to the purse strings can often make for influence.

Shure wasn't bertie's Drumcondra mafia highly influential in this country and how many of those were elected or on policy committees.

The fact that you continue to argue that someone who could pull in people at €5,000 a shot to meet with the taoiseach had no influence is frankly laughable.

Methinks someone protests too much not to be connected in some way.