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McDonalds employee attacks two customers who jump counter, charged with felony

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    #32
    Yakult
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,941 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Cianos wrote: »
    He went totally overboard, even picking up that metal bar. A couple of girls being a bit loud, and you with all your coworkers there? Yeah they jumped the counter but no need to start cracking jaws.

    Yeah, because these loud girls were only jumping to the counter to give him a hug :rolleyes:

    They we're obviously going to attack him, he used self defense (or a bar) to sort those two fools out. Deserved.


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    #33
    MyKeyG
    Registered Users Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭MyKeyG


    ch750536 wrote: »
    Only a numpty would want to offend themselves. Or maybe I offended myself last night...
    Yeah that came out wrong didn't it?:D My point is self defence is not without limitation. It turned into assault from what I can see. Where's Jack McCoy when ya need him?


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    #34
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    I'd of ****ed scalding oil over the hoers.


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    #35
    Fishooks12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    He did miss a perfect opportunity for a killer one liner

    After the final blow he should have said

    "you want fries with that?"

    I'll get my coat....


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    #36
    Big Nasty
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    Catch me on a bad day and I would love to hammer a couple of scroates like that.


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    #37
    Lapin
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    You sure its not Supermac's ?


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    #38
    hypermuse
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    Lapin wrote: »
    You sure its not Supermac's ?

    omg if your right it totally changes the story, events and outcome! :p

    He did go to far but I honestly dont think anyone could blame him giving out what was more than deserved!

    If you are gonna go into a workplace and harass an employee, then proceed to assault him and look for further confrontation after he walks away (granted he through a few) then you deserve to have your ass handed to you!


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    #39
    krudler
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    he was probably enraged more by that annoying one screeching "STOPPP ITTTTTTTTT!"

    hard one to call without seeing whats going on the other side of the counter, the two of them could have been kicking him or trying to attack him further from the ground. definitely justified in defending himself but it did look to go a bit far if they were laying out defenceless and he was just pounding away on them.


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    #40
    greendom
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    Employee went OTT went way beyond self defence and deserves punishment - as do the counter jumpers of course.


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    #41
    Dotsie~tmp
    Registered Users Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭Dotsie~tmp


    Self defence. I wouldnt convict.


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    #42
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Fast food fights

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAfsR58ocXY


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH3JSs0fnGQ


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2qH1SGoXkY


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xwBKKjednk


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    #43
    cocalolaman
    Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭cocalolaman


    "Oh my gaaaawwwd! Staawwwpp! Someone call the caawwwps!"


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    #44
    MyKeyG
    Registered Users Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭MyKeyG


    Lapin wrote: »
    You sure its not Supermac's ?
    Nah if it was Supermacs in all probability it would be the staff member abusing the customer.


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    #45
    Amalgam
    Registered Users Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    Yakult wrote: »
    Yeah, because these loud girls were only jumping to the counter to give him a hug :rolleyes:

    They we're obviously going to attack him, he used self defense (or a bar) to sort those two fools out. Deserved.

    There's that delicious moment when the two counter jumpers think they're onto a good slap and whinge, just before 'whippy' makes an appearance. There's that tenth of a second, 'oh.. sh_t' pause.

    I have some sympathy for the cashier..

    Amazing how just under the surface various tensions are.. in certain sectors in the US, Asians and African Americans don't have much time for each other.


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    #46
    MyKeyG
    Registered Users Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭MyKeyG


    Yakult wrote: »
    Yeah, because these loud girls were only jumping to the counter to give him a hug :rolleyes:

    They we're obviously going to attack him, he used self defense (or a bar) to sort those two fools out. Deserved.
    But they didn't. Any lawyer worth his salt would have argued that threatening behaviour doesn't constitute an act of violence and he'd be right. His defence wouldn't have been able to prove they were going to do anything.

    Personally I think he should have gone in for a penny in for a pound and thrown in a couple of kicks but from a legal point of view he didn't have a leg to stand on. Even a Cop isn't allowed put a hand on you until you've committed a physical act of aggression.


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    #47
    CMpunked
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    MyKeyG wrote: »
    But they didn't. Any lawyer worth his salt would have argued that threatening behaviour doesn't constitute an act of violence and he'd be right. His defence wouldn't have been able to prove they were going to do anything.

    Look at 25 seconds on the video, one of them quite obviously hits him first.


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    #48
    Opinicus
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    He gets slapped in the face at 25 seconds and then walks away. Wtf do you think they jumped the counter for? To continue their assault on someone.

    All is fair in love and war.


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    #49
    ScouseMouse
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    Tomtata wrote: »
    Yes justified - self defence - two people jumped the counter to attack her - she retaliate.

    If it wasnt for the actions on the two people who jumped the counter nothing would have happened.

    Don't you mean the girls jumped the counter to attack the cashier and the cashier DEFENDED themselves


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    #50
    thisiswar
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    Anyone who think the McDonalds employee was in the wrong is a f*cking Idiot.


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    #51
    MyKeyG
    Registered Users Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭MyKeyG


    CMpunked wrote: »
    Look at 25 seconds on the video, one of them quite obviously hits him first.
    Ah right. I switched the view to youtube because I couldn't see it clearly. She does give him a right good slap in the gob. Still not sure if the reaction fits within the definition of self defence.

    It doesn't help that the employee was released from a ten year stretch 7 months prior for shooting a 17 year old dead.

    He's obviously a violent man. Even at one stage one of his colleagues seem to flinch as if he made to attack him. I suppose you have to give him credit for backing off in the first place.


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    #52
    stovelid
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    Deserved what they got. F#ck them.


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    #53
    MyKeyG
    Registered Users Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭MyKeyG


    thisiswar wrote: »
    Anyone who think the McDonalds employee was in the wrong is a f*cking Idiot.
    That's not the argument. He was in the right to defend himself but that he went too far is the debate. I think he went too far. He could have killed them.


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    #54
    Chris P. Bacon
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqjEO400lMU


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    #55
    Monty Burnz
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    MyKeyG wrote: »
    But they didn't. Any lawyer worth his salt would have argued that threatening behaviour doesn't constitute an act of violence and he'd be right. His defence wouldn't have been able to prove they were going to do anything.
    I don't know about that. AIUI, in Irish law at least, making somebody fear that they are about to be assaulted is assault. So if a knacker fakes to hit you while you are walking down the street (as they do now and then, 'cos it's hilarious), you are within your rights to deck them in self defence.


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    #56
    greendom
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    thisiswar wrote: »
    Anyone who think the McDonalds employee was in the wrong is a f*cking Idiot.


    No anyone who can't see that he went too far is a f*cking idiot


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    #57
    MyKeyG
    Registered Users Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭MyKeyG


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    I don't know about that. AIUI, in Irish law at least, making somebody fear that they are about to be assaulted is assault. So if a knacker fakes to hit you while you are walking down the street (as they do now and then, 'cos it's hilarious), you are within your rights to deck them in self defence.
    Yes but if you proceeded to beat them repeatedly so that you caused fractures to their skull?


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    #58
    7ofBrian
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    Scumbags got exactly what they deserved. Death is too good for em. Should have left em quadrapelegic. Lets see them start **** then.


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    #59
    Boo_hoo
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    I'm on the employees side, but I wish he held back a bit. If only to protect himself from a lawsuit/assault charges.


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    #60
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    fair play to him, those two thought the where all big and dangerous until bamb he goes bats**t


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    #61
    deadlast
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    His boss is a clown!...:pac:


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