Agree with Sean Gallagher to change the Irish National Anthem ?

Monty Burnz

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

tfitzgerald wrote: »

A verse to mention the new Irish . How about we keep the irish national for the irish and let the new Irish go home

The new Irish are home. Ireland is their home. It didn't take long into the the recession for the f*cking Nazis to come out from under their rocks, did it?

mariano rivera

Great Idea from Mr. Gallaggher


I think we should move away from militaristic and go for something more uplifting


My vote would go for

The Nolan Sisters "I'm in the Mood for dancing"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th8auRXwnFc

Badgermonkey

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

The French National Anthem is very gruesome and bloody in its lyrics too, but I don't think you'd hear many French calling for it to be changed.

They know what they're singing though.

St.Spodo

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

I don't object to our national anthem because it evokes war with the Tommys, I just don't like it because it's a really bad song. Wouldn't mind seeing it changed.

4leto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAcnDevkTnc

I would change it to this, nice and short, no words to learn and fitting.

mcmoustache

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

Morlar wrote: »

A guerilla army defeating the (then) most powerful empire on the planet counts as military prowess in my view.

It would count as such in my view too.

The thing is, that isn't quite what happened. It was closer to a guerilla army being enough of a nuisance to an empire to make them reconsider direct rule which led them to withdraw on their own terms. To call it a defeat is a gross overstatement and oversimplification.

Morlar

No opinion / Too Cool.

mcmoustache wrote: »

It would count as such in my view too.

The thing is, that isn't quite what happened. It was closer to a guerilla army being enough of a nuisance to an empire to make them reconsider direct rule which led them to withdraw on their own terms. To call it a defeat is a gross overstatement and oversimplification.

You should write radio jingles

Freddie59

No opinion / Too Cool.

KeithAFC wrote: »

"God" would be in no position to judge her majesty.

You've actually lost it. Go on - haven't you?:D:D:D

Her 'majesty' my hole! Fcuk her and the horse she rides down the Mall on.

KeithAFC

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

Freddie59 wrote: »

You've actually lost it. Go on - haven't you?:D:D:D

Her 'majesty' my hole! Fcuk her and the horse she rides down the Mall on.

http://www.royal.gov.uk/HMTheQueen/HMTheQueen.aspx

That is what it says.

tfitzgerald

No opinion / Too Cool.

KeithAFC wrote: »

Its a song. Plus the bible is full of verses which glorify violence. "God" would be in no position to judge her majesty.

Where she's going I'm afraid she won't have to worry about God

Wertz

No opinion / Too Cool.

BTW this isn't Gallagher's idea...it's another FG co councillor/senator from Blackrock Co Louth (where Gallagher lives) called Jim Darcy.
His excuse was the tenative link to the FF party...Gallagher being ex-FF, what's his excuse? The lady doth protest too much...

broll

No opinion / Too Cool.

i cant believe the irish people would even consider this. if europe hadn t taken enough now a so called irish man wants to change are anthem 1916 heros would be turning in the grave. all respect has been lost for this gob****e

Richard

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

Morlar wrote: »

Are Irish people in britain with english/british ties excluded by the British National Anthem

Maybe they do - I don't know! Actually only the first verse is really sung these days, and if some of it was causing offence, they probably could get rid of all the other verses.

But I do think there's a crucial difference. In the event of a united Ireland, a new flag and anthem is a given. A change before then might well be part of a process to convince people in NI to vote for a UI. For the moment, though, it's ultimately a matter for people in the republic.

Richard

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

martic wrote: »

Think of the amount of money the good old empire is going to have to spend on changing the words when The Queen Dies :D:D

It will get shorter. "King" is shorter than "Queen", so the first verse will get 4 letters shorter, saving printing costs.

;-)

FTGFOP

No opinion / Too Cool.

Peetrik wrote: »

My lovely horse

Actually speaking of Neil Hannon, he has one ready to go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWuUcAjuWjQ

Somnus

No opinion / Too Cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfjUburwcnU

On topic: I'd be against changing the anthem. I'm not republican so I'm not disagreeing on any nationalist mentality but it is representative of the countries history. And it sounds good! It's great at matches and that, as people have all ready mentioned.

Also, anything written these days would be absolutely shíte! Look at Ireland's Call! Cringeworthy when compared with Amhrán na bhFiann

geetar

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

Irelands call is an utter load of shíte.

i think our countrys anthem is quite great, certainly we cant start changing our own national identity on a whim.

the french national anthem is even older, and has the same theme to it.

its regarded as the greatest of all national anthems and yet take a peak at these lyrics, dya think the french people are represented by this?...(maybe :pac:)

Grab your weapons, citizens!
Form your batallions!
Let us march! Let us march!
May impure blood
Water our fields!

RichieC

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

geetar wrote: »

Irelands call is an utter load of shíte.
)

I think it's great, it's easy to sing with confidence and gusto which makes a very nice atmosphere at the rugby matches. Unlike the national anthem which I personally have been muttering through my entire life..

ItsAWindUp

No opinion / Too Cool.

P iss off Gallagher.

geetar

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

RichieC wrote: »

I think it's great, it's easy to sing with confidence and gusto which makes a very nice atmosphere at the rugby matches. Unlike the national anthem which I personally have been muttering through my entire life..

i think irelands call is like a pub chant. i just associate it with balding drunk men spilling guiness roaring it in a pub. :pac:

TheBegotten

No opinion / Too Cool.

How many vote do you think this has lost Gallagher? down to <35% do ye reckon? Or more? And no mention on RTÉ News yet....

mariano rivera

RichieC wrote: »

I think it's great, it's easy to sing with confidence and gusto which makes a very nice atmosphere at the rugby matches. Unlike the national anthem which I personally have been muttering through my entire life..

I think its the National Anthem for Fat Irish People

You never see some scrawny lad in a tracksuit singing

EVERY RUGBY MATCH,

See the camera shots

Fat Rugby Players
Fat Bird in Crowd hugging her Fat friend with Leprechaun Hat
Two fat blokes drinking Guinness singing into each other Man Boobs

ItsAWindUp

No opinion / Too Cool.

TheBegotten wrote: »

How many vote do you think this has lost Gallagher? down to <35% do ye reckon? Or more? And no mention on RTÉ News yet....

Quelle suprise, he's a former Fianna Fail member is he not?

DEFTLEFTHAND

No opinion / Too Cool.

Bah, what tripe. I'm getting sick of this jumped up Egg in a suit.

TheBegotten

No opinion / Too Cool.

I thought it was just Tubs who was FF in RTÉ....Although, it wouldn't surprise me if the whole Board of Directors was FF at this stage.:mad:

Krusader

No opinion / Too Cool.

dsmythy wrote: »

Ah Keith we were expecting you


The fact that many can't sing the National Anthem alone is enough to look as possibly changing it.

Learn it in English if you don't know the Irish words, it was written in English first.

And Seán Gallagher can go **** himself

Gummy Panda

Really getting sick of these presidential candidates. They haven't got a clue what the job is about (well maybe Higgins) and should just shut the fúck up.

Though it would be fitting to have a failed businessman represent out country..

starbelgrade

I just saw the party political broadcast for Fianna Fail Sean Gallagher on RTE there.

I can't believe he played the "blind" card.

The guy is a twat.

If you want a twat for President, vote for Sean Gallagher.

Or David Norris, or Dana, or Higgins, or Mitchell, or McGuinness, or Yoda.

Monty Burnz

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

starbelgrade wrote: »

If you want a twat for President, vote for Sean Gallagher.

Or David Norris, or Dana, or Higgins, or Mitchell, or McGuinness, or Yoda.

Vote Yoda. You know you should. The rest of those gimps shouldn't even be on the ballot paper IMO.

gbee

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

Personally I don't give a crock about the North, demilitarising it and separating it from FF [the disgraced political party] is long overdue.

I would say we could keep it for military occasions, passing out ceremonies and dedications as most military personal and families know they difference from the disgraced political party ~ but for the common folk, certainly a new NA would be very welcome ~ a lively dancing tune ~ a great way to end a wedding or party and ENJOY it!


Aces/ I think that gets him my No 3 vote at this time ~ I wasn't going to give him a vote at all # but am warming to him, a bit.

laoch na mona

No opinion / Too Cool.

gbee wrote: »

Personally I don't give a crock about the North, demilitarising it and separating it from FF [the disgraced political party] is long overdue..

how is it connected to ff?

gbee

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

laoch na mona wrote: »

how is it connected to ff?

Opening line ♫ Sinne Fianna Fáil atá fé gheall ag Éirinn ♫

In 1916, this was true, in 1922, this was true, today, only members of the Irish Armed Forces should sing it, IMHO.

laoch na mona

No opinion / Too Cool.

gbee wrote: »

Opening line ♫ Sinne Fianna Fáil atá fé gheall ag Éirinn ♫

♫soldiers are we whose lives are pledged to Ireland♫

i fail to see the connection

The_Thing

No opinion / Too Cool.

No fcuking way ! ! !

Gallagher needs a good kick in the nuts for even thinking of such a thing.

gbee

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

laoch na mona wrote: »

i fail to see the connection

Actually most people Fáil to see the connection .

gbee

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

The_Thing wrote: »

Gallagher needs a good kick in the nuts

Simple as,

Mike 1972

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

Why do we need one at all ?

John Doe1 wrote: »

"Out yonder waits the Saxon foe" i love that line:D

What have you got against Saxony ?

Morlar wrote: »

Anyone voting 'yes - change it' care to elaborate on why the current Irish National anthem makes them feel excluded ?

Im not a soldier and ive nothing against Saxons

the groutch

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

I'd only want them to change it if they let The Rubber Bandits write the new one

Jess16

No opinion / Too Cool.

How about we change the woeful seven candidates instead?

gbee

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

the groutch wrote: »

I'd only want them to change it if they let The Rubber Bandits write the new one

Dana's 1970 gingle ?

StaticNoise

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

Definitely.

I don't like him, but I've always wanted it changed.

SleepAtNight

gbee wrote: »

Personally I don't give a crock about the North, demilitarising it and separating it from FF [the disgraced political party] is long overdue.

I would say we could keep it for military occasions, passing out ceremonies and dedications as most military personal and families know they difference from the disgraced political party ~ but for the common folk, certainly a new NA would be very welcome ~ a lively dancing tune ~ a great way to end a wedding or party and ENJOY it!


Aces/ I think that gets him my No 3 vote at this time ~ I wasn't going to give him a vote at all # but am warming to him, a bit.

Why the hell should the military be given exclusive rights to a song that celebrates Irish assertiveness and anti-imperialism? Quite frankly the southern army since its inception has had very little to do with anti-imperialism..in fact its first job was to be a battering ram for imperialism using British artillary and former members of the Crown forces in fighting those defending the republic.

Substitute laochra gael for Fianna Fáil and that'll solve your other problem. If that party s so disgraced in your mind why are you showing an interest in a candidate that is clearly an unoffiicial FF choice?

gbee

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

SleepAtNight wrote: »

that is clearly an unoffiicial FF choice?

I'm an idiot?

SleepAtNight

gbee wrote: »

I'm an idiot?

We all make mistakes:)

luckyfrank

No - Keep the Irish National Anthem as it is

Morlar wrote: »

Anyone voting 'yes - change it' care to elaborate on why the current Irish National anthem makes them feel excluded ?

I dont understand the words

Cossax

SleepAtNight wrote: »

Why the hell should the military be given exclusive rights to a song that celebrates Irish assertiveness and anti-imperialism? Quite frankly the southern army since its inception has had very little to do with anti-imperialism..in fact its first job was to be a battering ram for imperialism using British artillary and former members of the Crown forces in fighting those defending the republic.

Substitute laochra gael for Fianna Fáil and that'll solve your other problem. If that party s so disgraced in your mind why are you showing an interest in a candidate that is clearly an unoffiicial FF choice?

That's a fairly twisted version of history you're working with there.

SleepAtNight

Cossax wrote: »

That's a fairly twisted version of history you're working with there.

So the Free State Army didn't use British artillary or recruit Irish men en mass from Crown forces?

Peep O'Day

No opinion / Too Cool.

LordSutch wrote: »

Depends on whether we want to 'woo' the North into a new dispensation (A New 32 county Ireland) - or Not? Currently the National Anthem is hated by Unionists, so maybe it is time for a change, unless of course we don't want a new dispensation on this island

fuck off

mcmoustache wrote: »

It should be changed to some kind of lament or a begging song.

Seriously, though, I don't like the militaristic nature of it. It sounds disingenuous. Finland could sing a song like that without looking silly but our nation is in no position to boast about any historical military prowess.

well what a surprise mike 1972 thanked that, sure that clown wants god save the queen as our national anthem

Tomk1

No opinion / Too Cool.

If you asked me a few years ago I would of said Yes, but now I couldn't imagine anything else.

I would like to see U2 doing a version or a Rory Gallagher style, but that's about the only change.

LH Pathe

Big baldy black-belt businessman of a bánker, say that with your fist in your mouth