Fifa rankings...

falan

New Fifa rankings out today....Rep of Ireland move up 4 places to 25th.

Biggest movers are wales with 45 places...

http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html

joshrogan

Would we have been second seeds if the 2014WC draw had taken place after this draw?

Johner

Wales would have been 3rd seeds instead of 6th seeds!

Lemlin

Goal now should be to ensure we stay within the top 25 and try and push on into the top 20.

PARlance

joshrogan wrote: »

Would we have been second seeds if the 2014WC draw had taken place after this draw?

We sure would, disgrace imo that the draw was made before the conclusion of at least the group stages of Euro's (possibly should be after play-offs)

Someone said it was brought forward to accommodate other regions starting qualifying campaigns earlier this time around.
However, I can't see why they couldn't have done separate draws for each region. Do Australia need to know what group we're in etc?
Maybe there is some correlation out there, but I'm not aware of any.

Someone mentionned Wales' jump from 6-3...I'd be fuming if welsh.

Another significant jump was made by Armenia from 5th to 3rd.

It's a massive set back for countries like these that are on the up.

Kimbot

How high have we been ranked in the rankings before??

Coillte_Bhoy

Lemlin wrote: »

Goal now should be to ensure we stay within the top 25 and try and push on into the top 20.

How on earth is an international team supposed to achieve that goal particulalry???? ffs, the goal should be to qualfiy for Euro2012 and do our best there. We do well, our ranking improves, if not we go down. It's not exactly rocket science.

Professional Griefer

jonny24ie wrote: »

How high have we been ranked in the rankings before??

Seems 9 was the highest.

link

edit. ''Highest FIFA ranking
6 - December 1992. August 1993.
Lowest FIFA Ranking
57 - November 1998.
Best Mover
20 - April 2007
Worst mover
-13 - July 1997''

Average of 29.

Marty McFly

The whole rankings system is a joke and needs to be revised, I never pay much attention to it.

jester77

Ix Deadmau5 wrote: »

Seems 9 was the highest.

link

It shows that we were 6th in Dec. 92 & Aug 93
and 57th in Nov 98 was our lowest

roryc

*ahem*

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=74890589

Lemlin

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

How on earth is an international team supposed to achieve that goal particulalry???? ffs, the goal should be to qualfiy for Euro2012 and do our best there. We do well, our ranking improves, if not we go down. It's not exactly rocket science.

I meant in terms of the rankings. If the rankings decide what pot teams are going to be in for World Cup and future qualifying, Ireland need to be trying to get as high as possible to be in a higher pot.

Also, I'd expect the way for us to break into the top 20 would be to qualify for Euro 2012.

tolosenc

Lemlin wrote: »

Also, I'd expect the way for us to break into the top 20 would be to qualify for Euro 2012.

If we win both legs over Estonia, we will be ahead of Ivory Coast on ranking points.

homerjay2005

always good to see us higher and while the standings have massive flaws, they are important in some cases for rankings and seedings.

would it make a difference to us for th draw for euros if we get there or has that been decided by the places already?

would be nice to be in the top 20, that has to be the aim now and would be a good achievement.

G.K.

Being Welsh I am not best pleased.

premierstone

luvbulmers01 wrote: »

The whole rankings system is a joke and needs to be revised, I never pay much attention to it.

While it is very obviously flawed, saying you dont pay much attention to them is missing the whole point they are quite frankly huge, and will in future effectively alter a teams chances of qualifying by anything up to +/- 33%

barry194

Anyone seen today's? Colombia are 3rd and Brazil 9th :eek:

TaosHum

Ireland's slip continues. Down to 44.

GLaDOS

Didn't realise this was an old thread and thought it a bit odd we were up to 25th

ArmaniJeanss

barry194 wrote: »

Anyone seen today's? Colombia are 3rd and Brazil 9th :eek:

Which is it you have a problem with?
Columbia have been winning a load of competitive games in World Cup qualifying against other top 30 teams (Uruguay, Ecuador, Chile, Argentina) hence have shot up the rankings.

Brazil dropped outside the top 20 (which tends to happen to world cup and euro hosts due to not playing competitive games) but their recent winning of 5 competitive games sees them move back into the Top 10. They still however get dragged back by their abjecte performances in the most recent Copa and ropey friendly results.

Obviously not perfect but doesn't seem that outrageous?

barry194

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Which is it you have a problem with?
Columbia have been winning a load of competitive games in World Cup qualifying against other top 30 teams (Uruguay, Ecuador, Chile, Argentina) hence have shot up the rankings.

Brazil dropped outside the top 20 (which tends to happen to world cup and euro hosts due to not playing competitive games) but their recent winning of 5 competitive games sees them move back into the Top 10. They still however get dragged back by their abjecte performances in the most recent Copa and ropey friendly results.

Obviously not perfect but doesn't seem that outrageous?

I don't have a problem with it I just think it's surprising. They may have won a lot of games again teams in South America but surely they wouldn't beat Brazil at the minute?

GavRedKing

Burkina Faso a few places ahead of us.

:pac:

Morzadec

I had no idea that Colombia were doing so well. Does anyone know much about their squad? Can't think of many big players outside of Falcao.

Potential dark horses for the World Cup?

Knex*

Morzadec wrote: »

I had no idea that Colombia were doing so well. Does anyone know much about their squad? Can't think of many big players outside of Falcao.

Potential dark horses for the World Cup?

You'd be surprised at how many of the players you would recognise.

They have a fairly decent team IMO. Excellent in midfield and going forward, but their defence isn't the strongest.

I wouldn't see them winning the World Cup, but I would not be surprised to see them make the Quarter Finals and perhaps the Semis. Then again, I have only seen them play twice in recent times so I wouldn't be the best judge.

Have a look at the link below and you can see the players for yourself.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/colombia/startseite/nationalmannschaft_3816.html

DaveyCakes

barry194 wrote: »

I don't have a problem with it I just think it's surprising. They may have won a lot of games again teams in South America but surely they wouldn't beat Brazil at the minute?

But whether they would or wouldn't beat Brazil is irrelevant. It's purely about who they have or haven't beaten.

NIMAN

England are down to 15th in the rankings but I bet you this isn't reflected in the qualifying draws.

They have been rubbish for ages and always been among the 1st seeds in every draw.

DaveyCakes

NIMAN wrote: »

England are down to 15th in the rankings but I bet you this isn't reflected in the qualifying draws.

They have been rubbish for ages and always been among the 1st seeds in every draw.

How many competitive matches have England lost in the last 5 years?

GavRedKing

Englands record in the WCQ's so far is poor enough.

Theyve only won 3 games, H/A to San Marino and Moldova.

Drew at home to Ukraine and away to Poland & Montengro.

Arguably, if you believe the hype England should steam roll these teams.

Other then the WC loss to Germany and Euro loss to Italy I'm struggling to think of a competitive game theyve lost, I think they lost to an Eastern European team on the way to WC 2010.

MaroonAndGreen

Didint England lose in Montenegro, the time Rooney got sent off?

GavRedKing

They could have, I'm not sure, I only remember that game for the kick out.

noodler

England's qualification record has been pretty good since the failure to qualify for 2008.

MaroonAndGreen

GavRedKing wrote: »

Englands record in the WCQ's so far is poor enough.

Theyve only won 3 games, H/A to San Marino and Moldova.

Drew at home to Ukraine and away to Poland & Montengro.

Arguably, if you believe the hype England should steam roll these teams.

Other then the WC loss to Germany and Euro loss to Italy I'm struggling to think of a competitive game theyve lost, I think they lost to an Eastern European team on the way to WC 2010.

Just got it there, they lost 1-0 away to Ukraine in WC 2010 qualifying on the 10th of October 2009 :P

Ulysses Gaze

Knex. wrote: »

You'd be surprised at how many of the players you would recognise.

They have a fairly decent team IMO. Excellent in midfield and going forward, but their defence isn't the strongest.

I wouldn't see them winning the World Cup, but I would not be surprised to see them make the Quarter Finals and perhaps the Semis. Then again, I have only seen them play twice in recent times so I wouldn't be the best judge.

Have a look at the link below and you can see the players for yourself.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/colombia/startseite/nationalmannschaft_3816.html

My God. Mondragon is STILL playing? Lol.

764dak

GavRedKing wrote: »

Englands record in the WCQ's so far is poor enough.

Theyve only won 3 games, H/A to San Marino and Moldova.

Drew at home to Ukraine and away to Poland & Montengro.

Arguably, if you believe the hype England should steam roll these teams.

Other then the WC loss to Germany and Euro loss to Italy I'm struggling to think of a competitive game theyve lost, I think they lost to an Eastern European team on the way to WC 2010.

Matches that go to penalties count as draws.