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Raoul

billr67 wrote: »

Do we have a draft order for tomorrow night or is that random as it's a total redraft?

Do we have a set number of teams? And the rules?

GoldFour4

Raoul wrote: »

Do we have a set number of teams? And the rules?

Draft order will be random. Final invite just sent to Wong there. We will have 14 teams.

I'm going to set the number of keepers to 8. The number of keepers won't be an issue until the end of the season and I can't see thee being an appetite for more than 8 keepers.

I'm not sure how we should decide on trading etc. Would a doodle poll be sufficient? .

Raoul

malistheman wrote: »

Draft order will be random. Final invite just sent to Wong there. We will have 14 teams.

I'm going to set the number of keepers to 8. The number of keepers won't be an issue until the end of the season and I can't see thee being an appetite for more than 8 keepers.

I'm not sure how we should decide on trading etc. Would a doodle poll be sufficient? .

Yeah. I think doodle polls for all rules including number of keepers. I just don't want to be in the same situation where we have a league for a few years and people leave. It would be good to have the rules decided and everyone to agree they are happy.

Sorry giving you more work.

GoldFour4

Guys which team is "Warfields warriors"?

TaosHum

malistheman wrote: »

Guys which team is "Warfields warriors"?

Mine mate

BizzyC

wong wrote: »

I agree with gerry on this.

The rules I've been using for my own keeper league is no 1st rounders can be kept so they automatically go back into draft next year.

Players are kept a round earlier than when they are drafted the following year.
Waiver or free agent pickups cost an 8th rounder in the next draft.

How exactly is that policed, who decides if a player is a 1st rounder or not?
Playing that way means that you'll never get to keep your best players, may aswell play a normal league format instead.

GoldFour4

Draft should be good to go by 9. I've removed the keepers from a few teams who still had keepers listed!

gerryfed

Turns out we had one player too many and I forgot to check if I still had a league spot haha, oops! My fault! Good luck with the draft and the season lads!

wong

BizzyC wrote: »

How exactly is that policed, who decides if a player is a 1st rounder or not?
Playing that way means that you'll never get to keep your best players, may aswell play a normal league format instead.

It's decided because it will be a first round pick?

The idea is to level the playing field somewhat so that there isn't complete domination.

Not all the best players that can be kept are 1st rounders. Good players are reward by drafting well in the later rounds.

I'm not the commish here and I'll be happy to go with whatever rules are set down. I was just simply making a suggestion based on the keeper league I commish.

wong

The Flex is WR/TE?

wong

Kareem and Tyreek making my Friday all the much sweeter.

wong

Am I the only active player in this?

Raoul

I'm usually pretty active on here but I'm not that happy with my team so I am staying quiet! ha

Raoul

How will the playoffs work here?
Are the teams in a the 4 team division at a disadvantage?

wong

Looking for a RB if someone wants to make a trade

BizzyC

wong wrote: »

Looking for a RB if someone wants to make a trade

Would be willing to look at WR options for James White or Aaron Jones

wong

None of those guys are a massive upgrade on Gallman though. What WR were you thinking?

BizzyC

wong wrote: »

None of those guys are a massive upgrade on Gallman though. What WR were you thinking?

Not so sure on that, Giants pass game is gone - they have no WRs left so every defence can load up on run from here on out. Gallman's production will go down.
Jones is probably the better prospect of my 2 right now, good production last few weeks & in line to keep the starting job.
WR would depend on which of mine you go for, White would be relatively cheap - he has production better than some of my WRs right now.
Jones has a lot of upside right now, so while I would be willing to deal it would have to be for someone with good numbers or potential

BizzyC

Ok, so now that my season is pretty much done, what was the story with Keepers for next year?
Are we sticking to the old way of 1 keeper = a 1st round pick sacrifice, 2 keepers = 1&2nd rounders etc
or are we going with the new suggested setup of a keeper = 1 round above whatever round he was drafted last season?

billr67

Hi guys apologies but just to make certain I have this right from last year, we can keep up to 8 players but there's no minimum (i.e. you don't have to keep anyone if you don't want to), is that correct?

BizzyC

I think the idea was that you can keep more, but you have to give up a pick in the round above where you got them last year? ie cant keep 1st rounders from last year, but can keep a 4th rounder from last year for a 3rd round pick etc...
I'm not sure how we enforce that though without having last years draft history and the GM auditing and locking in keepers before the draft...

eagle eye

I thought the deal was that you select keepers from the top. So you select your first keeper in the box at the top and that eliminates you from the first round?

So if you keep three players then your first pick comes in round 4.

billr67

eagle eye wrote: »

I thought the deal was that you select keepers from the top. So you select your first keeper in the box at the top and that eliminates you from the first round?

So if you keep three players then your first pick comes in round 4.

Yep that's what I thought, my only question was do I have to keep a minimum from last season as we had a complete redraft last time round and there was some debate over whether people should keep at least 3 or 4 of their old team each season.

Obviously that would mean that round 4 or 5 is effectively round 1 as everyone would be retaining some players from the previous year.

If there's no minimum then it's as you stated above.

eagle eye

I don't think so, the idea of a keeper league is to keep improving your team. If you don't think a player is worth keeping you let him go.



If you don't like your whole squad then you can let them all go. I don't think there is any rule regarding keeping players other than that you have to start at the top so you miss out on round one of the draft by keeping one player and so on.

wong

eagle eye wrote: »

I thought the deal was that you select keepers from the top. So you select your first keeper in the box at the top and that eliminates you from the first round?

So if you keep three players then your first pick comes in round 4.

This way of keeping seems to punish players who drafted really well though, especially in the later rounds?

BizzyC

I wouldn't say its a punishment
You still get first option to keep that player, you're just not allowed keep someone who would be a high round pick this year for a low round pick instead.
I think it's actually a better option for keeping balance in the league

wong

I understand it's good for the balance but if you want balance you go for a redraft league.
The incentive of having a good draft is diminished.

As I said previously, I don't mind what we do but just offering my 2c

eagle eye

wong wrote:

I understand it's good for the balance but if you want balance you go for a redraft league. The incentive of having a good draft is diminished.

wong wrote:

As I said previously, I don't mind what we do but just offering my 2c

This is a keeper league, the object of the exercise is to draft well every year and have a great team in a couple of years by holding on to the great ones that you drafted

A full redraft would defeat the purpose of the league.

wong

I've said what I've had to say on the matter and I'm perfectly happy with whatever way we do it.
I am not advocating for a redraft league. That is why I joined a keeper league.

BizzyC

Ok, so to summarize we have two options, both currently based on up to 8 keepers:

1) Keeping a player requires you to give up a pick in a round higher than where he was drafted last year. ie keeping a 3rd round pick from last year costs a 2nd round pick this year.
2) Any kept players comes off the top of your draft - ie keep 2 players, no picks till round 3

Option 1 would be interesting to try, but I'm not sure how we police it to ensure that all the keepers have had the correct pick given up etc, without locking the keepers well before the draft and having the GM review every one individually.

eagle eye

BizzyC wrote:

Option 1 would be interesting to try, but I'm not sure how we police it to ensure that all the keepers have had the correct pick given up etc, without locking the keepers well before the draft and having the GM review every one individually.

Option 2 is the fair way.

Raoul

eagle eye wrote: »

Option 2 is the fair way.

Agreed

Mark2229

Do you guus have any openings to join the league?

GoldFour4

I'm out this year lads. Don't have time at all for more than 1 league unfortunately.

Mr. Guappa

Yeah I'm the same as mal. Team name was Oh Look An Eagle

eagle eye

In again, Foxboro Legends.

Raoul

In!

BizzyC

I'm in if we get a full league again - Fear Boners

Mark2229

I'm willing to take one of those teams!

boccy23

In as well, Boccys Jockeys, if we can get someone to run the league.

wong

I'm in as well for sure

Masked Man

Back as well.

BizzyC

I don't mind running it if we get a full compliment of teams back in.
Right now we have 2 leavers, 1 joiner and 5 teams back in. There are 7 we haven't heard from yet.
Wong, Masked Man - I dont know your team names so haven't marked you down in the below properly:

In:

• Boccys Jockeys
• Eagle Eye Patriots
• The Fear Boners

Out:

• Oh Look An Eagle
• Westbest

Unsure:

• Can I Borrow a Thielen
• Desert Bluff Vultures
• Dundalk Oriels
• manafafa steelers
• Pick Sixes
• Prestige Worldwide
• P-Town Pier Sixers
• Steel City Celtic
• Westfield's Warriors

New joiners:

• Mark2229

wong

BizzyC wrote: »

I don't mind running it if we get a full compliment of teams back in.
Right now we have 2 leavers, 1 joiner and 5 teams back in. There are 7 we haven't heard from yet.
Wong, Masked Man - I dont know your team names so haven't marked you down in the below properly:

In:

• Boccys Jockeys
• Eagle Eye Patriots
• The Fear Boners

Out:

• Oh Look An Eagle
• Westbest

Unsure:

• Can I Borrow a Thielen
• Desert Bluff Vultures
• Dundalk Oriels
• manafafa steelers
• Pick Sixes
• Prestige Worldwide
• P-Town Pier Sixers
• Steel City Celtic
• Westfield's Warriors

New joiners:

• Mark2229

I'm "Can I Borrow a Thielen" mate

Coeus

I'm (P-Town Pier Sixers) back in...

Raoul

BizzyC wrote: »

I don't mind running it if we get a full compliment of teams back in.
Right now we have 2 leavers, 1 joiner and 5 teams back in. There are 7 we haven't heard from yet.
Wong, Masked Man - I dont know your team names so haven't marked you down in the below properly:

In:

• Boccys Jockeys
• Eagle Eye Patriots
• Dundalk Oriels
• The Fear Boners

Out:

• Oh Look An Eagle
• Westbest

Unsure:

• Can I Borrow a Thielen
• Desert Bluff Vultures
• manafafa steelers
• Pick Sixes
• Prestige Worldwide
• P-Town Pier Sixers
• Steel City Celtic
• Westfield's Warriors

New joiners:

• Mark2229

Updated

BizzyC

Ok, so we still need to hear from 6 teams, and find one more new joiner to take one of the empty spots.

Going to send a message around to the teams that haven't responded yet on here.

IN: Boccys Jockeys, Eagle Eye Patriots, Dundalk Oriels, The Fear Boners, Can I Borrow a Thielen,P-Town Pier Sixers

Unsure: Desert Bluff Vultures, manafafa steelers, Prestige Worldwide, Pick Sixes, Steel City Celtic, Westfield's Warriors

padmcv

I'd love to join if there's a free spot

BizzyC

Good stuff, that's both gaps filled - still waiting on 5 teams to reply.
We have another 5 weeks before we should be looking to draft. Should we place a limit on when teams need to respond by?

Masked Man

I'm Desert Bluff Vultures, cheers.