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TechnoFreek

o1s1n wrote: »

Do I spy a FrancoB jamma fingerboard with a -5v Negatron?

That's a really handy solution, so everything between the control panel wiring and the molex connector doesn't have to be touched, even when changing kick harnesses etc. You just plug the CPS1/2 kick harness into one side of the molex.

Yeah, the whole lot is a francoB solution! Yeah. negatron for the mk boards, they need -5v.

If you look at the MK pcbs on my Atomiswave thread you'll see the custom kick harness on them.

TechnoFreek

This still needs to be done if you're hooking up a pc and jpac.

BGOllie

Finally got the art for the Bombjack cab from Olly. Conversion is all done now.

CiDeRmAn

That is a beauty!

eddhorse

About time, nice work Olly

BGOllie

thanks. also almost done on that cocktail table just need to sand down the scratches from the glass

I'd heard report that the angle from the control panel made it awkward but it's not that different from the angle on a the Namco cabs like pacman or galaga. I think it depends how many buttons are present. for a 1 or 2 button dedicated game these are perfectly fine I find. Things could get less confortable on a 6 button setup and are button heavy like versus fighting games or beat em ups .

CiDeRmAn

Anyone know what the colour code for the wires are for one of these harnesses, for my Candy?
I doesn't really matter, as it is being plumbed into the RPi via a PS3 controller emulator and, even then, the inputs are interpreted by the RetroPi OS.
I did notice that, as is, only four of the player buttons are registering, not including the start button, which is in line with expectations, so the remaining two will have to be wired directly into the PS3 doodad.

TechnoFreek

I'd be surprised if there's a standard colour code but I can check mine tonight to help you match up pinout based on the molex pins position.
as mentioned on my previous posts, I think three buttons (excluding Start) is the max that you will pick up on the jamma edge without getting the soldering iron out.

I don't know anything about the PS3 controller emulator thing but I presume you have some piece of kit that hooks up to the jamma connector in the same way i have to use a jpac for my pc

Inviere

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

via a PS3 controller emulator

Does that not introduce significant input lag? Would you give any consideration to putting a low powered pc back in there, it'd walk all over the Pi, & with RetroArch, you can now reduce input lag so much that it rivals original hardware...

CiDeRmAn

I'm after finding a line of code that can be popped into Retropie that straightens out the identifying of Player 2.
As for input lag, no noticable lag no, some solutions can introduce lag but this one not really, none I'm noticing anyway.

As for replacing the Pi, I'm pretty happy with it as it is, and that's before I update Retropie to use my neglected RPi3B+.
I'm not chasing cutting edge emu, so far it runs almost everything I want or need, bar Super Hexagon and Tempest 2000!!

CiDeRmAn

Well, that was no fun at all!

After an hour or two in the company of Kerbdog we/he finally got everything working/registering, with a little bypass required on the AWSD kick which brings button 6 to the normally installed Atomiswave hardware.

However....

It did take a bit of fiddling, via the mysteries of the command line, to get Retropie to recoginise the Xin-Mo adaptor as two controllers.

Following this, things are still in bizarro world, as Emulationstation seems determined to confound the input setup on player two, making button 6 a select/credit button against my wishes.

More Googling required!

Edit: Seems I'm either going to have to find a new button to assign as "select" for Player Two or, perhaps, rewire the existing select button to both Player One and Two.

CiDeRmAn

Fiddled with the cab again last night.
It seems bizarre that I can't set up the controls for two players, it insists on an extra select button, and I've no where to put one!
I might try making the current assigned "hotkey" the select button for player two and use the select shortcuts instead.
Might work, I'll have a crack at it again this evening.

On a brighter note, I can confirm that Robotron works a treat with the two sticks!

Does anyone know if Ibara or any of those later Cave games work on FBA, the latest version of same I have running on my RPi3?
Might ssh some of the Cave titles across from the PC, see how that goes.

TechnoFreek

Don't know a whole lot about fba but I was under the impression the newer cave games didn't run

CiDeRmAn

TechnoFreek wrote: »

Don't know a whole lot about fba but I was under the impression the newer cave games didn't run

It'll be just a matter dragging and dropping some files, I was surprised to find both Raiden II and DX working, so it's not impossible, which reminds me, must try Viper Phase One as well.

deadl0ck

I didn't know Raiden II was now working !!

CiDeRmAn

deadl0ck wrote: »

I didn't know Raiden II was now working !!

In Final Burn it is at least.
As well as Raiden DX.

o1s1n

deadl0ck wrote: »

I didn't know Raiden II was now working !!

Yeah the encryption was finally broken on that a coupl of years ago. Really weird finally playing it in an emulator!

deadl0ck

o1s1n wrote: »

Yeah the encryption was finally broken on that a coupl of years ago. Really weird finally playing it in an emulator!

I had an PC version of it on my arcade cab, but it'll be great to play the proper ROM now.

Another one that seems to have been cracked is Galeco World Rally - I had been waiting for that one - used to play it in a local chippers

o1s1n

deadl0ck wrote: »

I had an PC version of it on my arcade cab, but it'll be great to play the proper ROM now.

Another one that seems to have been cracked is Galeco World Rally - I had been waiting for that one - used to play it in a local chippers

Have the original board currently in my cab. Actually it's the only board screwed in permanently that never leaves. Amazing game to play on a vertical monitor. Something really cinematic about it.

Inviere

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Fiddled with the cab again last night.
It seems bizarre that I can't set up the controls for two players, it insists on an extra select button, and I've no where to put one!
I might try making the current assigned "hotkey" the select button for player two and use the select shortcuts instead.
Might work, I'll have a crack at it again this evening.

No offense Cidey, but that whole setup sounds like a convoluted headache. An iPac would solve all that, though I’m not sure if they work with a Pi.

CiDeRmAn

Inviere wrote: »

No offense Cidey, but that whole setup sounds like a convoluted headache. An iPac would solve all that, though I’m not sure if they work with a Pi.

I think I have it sorted....
The issue was, ultimately, with Emulationstation coupled with my ability to make a complete bollox of things.
Fingers crossed, a little experimentation this evening should have everything working just fine.
Next project will be seeing if I can get a unloved laptop in there and connected to the same controls, to run Super Hexagon and Tempest 2000!

CiDeRmAn

Nope


That wasn't it....

CathalDublin

One word
Arpicade

KeRbDoG

Inviere wrote: »

No offense Cidey, but that whole setup sounds like a convoluted headache. An iPac would solve all that, though I’m not sure if they work with a Pi.

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I think I have it sorted....
The issue was, ultimately, with Emulationstation coupled with my ability to make a complete bollox of things.
Fingers crossed, a little experimentation this evening should have everything working just fine.
Next project will be seeing if I can get a unloved laptop in there and connected to the same controls, to run Super Hexagon and Tempest 2000!

Turned out before I dropped into help, I uncovered a iPac with a plug/play adapter for the AtomiswaveSD 2 player control panel. I left it with him, unsure he wants to admit defeat to move over to it :P

CiDeRmAn

KeRbDoG wrote: »

Turned out before I dropped into help, I uncovered a iPac with a plug/play adapter for the AtomiswaveSD 2 player control panel. I left it with him, unsure he wants to admit defeat to move over to it :P

Noooo!

Inviere

KeRbDoG wrote: »

Turned out before I dropped into help, I uncovered a iPac with a plug/play adapter for the AtomiswaveSD 2 player control panel. I left it with him, unsure he wants to admit defeat to move over to it :P

Hmm, the choice between an iPac or some weird Chinese board that emulates PS3 controllers, let me think.....:D

CiDeRmAn

Inviere wrote: »

Hmm, the choice between an iPac or some weird Chinese board that emulates PS3 controllers, let me think.....:D

Feck off the lot of you!!

Doge

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Feck off the lot of you!!

Oh jeez, now Retr0 will have the ultimate excuse if he plays Ghosts n' Goblins on that Atomiswave at a beers!

Inviere

“Ciderman, I hear you’re having trouble with your car not working correctly. I have a Mercedes Benz here which ticks all the boxes you could ever want. You can have it for free, as I don’t need it. Do you want it?”

“Nah, I’ll pass thanks. One of these days this old Fiat will start for me, I just know it.”

CiDeRmAn

No, I'm not crying....
It's just dust n stuff.