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o1s1n · 15-09-2013 7:00pm

Ever keep putting off a task as it seems like it's going to be a lot of effort? Well that was me with the new Candy control panel.

Finally got off my lazy ass and switched it around this evening.

It's hard to see in the photos, but the old CP was grimey and had a good few marks on it. New one is brand new, looks like it's never been used!

Off with the old:

Almost there!

Whey! Can actually play SNK fighters properly now. Last Blade parry here I come

It's so new that you can still feel the textured finish to those little orangy lines

Hah! Was just putting the old CP back in the box and found the original instruction layout for it. Turns out it's the original shipping box it came in. Also noticed that the CP has it's original factory plastic film over it, definitely never been used

Gave it a quick blast, absolutely lovely. Much more comfortable to play with. If you look at the original panel, The main buttons were much closer to the edge (and your hand was hanging off)

CiDeRmAn · 15-09-2013 9:28pm

Glad you paid attention to your knob.
The yellow one simply didn't look right.
There's a lesson there for all of us I think.....

o1s1n · 16-09-2013 2:43pm

Not sure if Ciderdude is making a dirty joke or genuinely doesn't like yellow ball tops...

When I was mounting the new CP, I had to unscrew the sticks from the old control panel and screw them to the new CP without removing the wiring to the cab.

For some reason the wire connects are absolutely jammed on. Sliced my finger trying to remove one, so thought it was best to leave them as they are for the moment. Cab doesn't seem to be ready to say bye to it's old sticks yet

Had a benefit though, meant I could replace the remaining dodgy stick on my Pony with a functioning one and also use the old style mounting plate. Result! Save me the price of a new stick and mounting plate.

o1s1n · 17-09-2013 12:29pm

From AO. Must be the ugliest cab I've ever seen.

The Bezel!
The Apple ****!
The trackball mouse!
The feckin sticks with buttons on them!

Argh!!!!

Andrew76 · 17-09-2013 1:11pm

Those stickers on the bezel look like screenshots of Mac application windows complete with scroll bars??

I like the new CP you got btw, looks lovely and good that you can rest you hand on the cp now.

17-09-2013 1:38pm

Ah lads,
Give him a break!

Over 400 games is not to be sniffed at

o1s1n · 17-09-2013 1:45pm

Ahhhh! That's what the little boxes are on the bezel. I didn't notice the scroll bars - thought they were just white pieces of paper.

Cheers re the CP, that little bit of extra hand room makes all the difference!

CiDeRmAn · 17-09-2013 5:28pm

If that cab swapped out the sticks for proper ones, drilled out the buttons and fitted better ones and then replaced the lousy domestic trackball with an arcade one....
new bezel art too... Could work ok, no?

Andrew76 · 17-09-2013 5:36pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

If that cab swapped out the sticks for proper ones, drilled out the buttons and fitted better ones and then replaced the lousy domestic trackball with an arcade one....
new bezel art too... Could work ok, no?

Ah yeah, the actual wooden cab itself looks grand. Just the strange artwork and control panel that needs changing imo. Hopefully there's some scanlines going on with that LCD too.

Star Lord · 18-09-2013 4:10pm

o1s1n wrote: »

From AO. Must be the ugliest cab I've ever seen.

The Bezel!
The Apple ****!
The trackball mouse!
The feckin sticks with buttons on them!

Argh!!!!

http://www.patricklewis.net/mame/images/Completed.jpg

If it's Mac... shouldn't it have just one button? :pac:

o1s1n · 18-09-2013 4:14pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

If that cab swapped out the sticks for proper ones, drilled out the buttons and fitted better ones and then replaced the lousy domestic trackball with an arcade one....
new bezel art too... Could work ok, no?

Yep! If you look at the cab, there are tell tale signs that it's a mamed jamma cab. Which makes it even more obscene!

DamoElDiablo wrote: »

If it's Mac... shouldn't it have just one button? :pac:

One button titled 'self destruct' :pac:

o1s1n · 18-09-2013 8:42pm

Check out the Neo 50 cab for sale over on UKvac! :eek:

http://www.ukvac.com/forum/neo-50-arcade-machine_topic335142_page1.html

The Last Bandit · 18-09-2013 8:50pm

Not much chance of slipping that past the missus !!!

Andrew76 · 18-09-2013 9:43pm

The Last Bandit wrote: »

Not much chance of slipping that past the missus !!!

Sure you're hardly going to bring it in through the kitchen are you?

That's some cab he has, monster. Some great boards too.

Jack burton · 19-09-2013 8:37am

Thats a serious cab, central london aswell. £500 is what the first chap was saying, too bad the monitor has burn in. Still no way to fix that is there?

Steve X2 · 19-09-2013 9:28am

What games should I be playing on my new GNet?

It should arrive today or tomorrow so i want to have a quick blast of the best ones before I head away for the weekend, to a wedding i don't want to go to, in a place i don't want to go to :0)
G-Darius I know but are there other decent games worth playing right away?

CiDeRmAn · 19-09-2013 10:14am

XII Stag is pretty great on the GNet.

o1s1n · 22-09-2013 7:36pm

There was an E2 and Astro on AO for sale for £400 each :eek:

http://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=25426

Steve X2 · 25-09-2013 9:12am

So it seems I need to adjust the +5v on my Egret 3 psu to get my new GNet to work. I've not adjusted it before so anyone got any tips on doing so? Are there just some pots I need to turn or is there more to it?

Myrddin · 25-09-2013 9:21am

Should be just a pot labelled as 5v, hook up a multimeter to the 5v output & adjust it slowly until in range

o1s1n · 25-09-2013 9:22am

Steve SI wrote: »

So it seems I need to adjust the +5v on my Egret 3 psu to get my new GNet to work. I've not adjusted it before so anyone got any tips on doing so? Are there just some pots I need to turn or is there more to it?

Depends on thr PSU. Some of those fancy after.market ones have a digital display with the reading.

It not, you'll need to hook a multimeter up to the Gnet before you start twiddling knobs (if your PSU has knobs to twiddle! some dont)

As far as I know there's also a bit of a voltage drop off when reading from the game board with a multimeter. So be careful in that regard. Dont want to cook the Gnet!

Steve X2 · 25-09-2013 9:29am

Cheers guys, I'll have a careful play with it later on this evening.

Edit:
Does this look accurate to you's?

Myrddin · 25-09-2013 10:59am

I've always checked the 5v directly from the output of the psu itself, rather than the game board.

o1s1n · 25-09-2013 11:10am

EnterNow wrote: »

I've always checked the 5v directly from the output of the psu itself, rather than the game board.

Makes sense to go for the source

The only time I needed to do it was when my 6 slot MVS board wasn't getting enough juice (power hungry monsters so they are!)

I put one probe on the +5v from the harness and the other on a ground point on the 6 slot. Turns out it wasn't getting the correct +5v at all.

Raised the voltage to a point where the board started working. I think it came to about +5.1v or +5.2v.

Andrew76 · 25-09-2013 11:19am

@Steve - iirc you're still using the original Wei-Ya style PSU in the candy and there was no cage covering it? There'll be 3 green dials on the front of it: +3v, +12v and +5v. (Think the +3v is for JVS but you don't need to worry about that obv). I can't remember which position the +5v is at but they're marked anyway - just need to get out the magnifying glass. Philips head screwdriver to adjust it by very small amounts. That's what I did with mne anyway.

I think I did the opposite of EnterNow and measured under load (with a board connected). Different boards pull different amounts from memory so bang on +5v for one PCB might not be the same for another. Those G-Nets are picky feckers from what I've heard too. Just adjust in tiny increments and you'll be fine.

Yes that Jamma pinout is fine for the +5v position.

The Last Bandit · 25-09-2013 11:31am

As above, measure the voltage with the board connected and at the 5V pins on the boards Jamma connector.

You'd be surprised how much of a voltage you'll get across the cables & connectors if they're old or corroded in any way.

Steve X2 · 25-09-2013 11:38am

Andrew76 wrote: »

@Steve - iirc you're still using the original Wei-Ya style PSU in the candy and there was no cage covering it? There'll be 3 green dials on the front of it: +3v, +12v and +5v. (Think the +3v is for JVS but you don't need to worry about that obv). I can't remember which position the +5v is at but they're marked anyway - just need to get out the magnifying glass. Philips head screwdriver to adjust it by very small amounts. That's what I did with mne anyway.

I think I did the opposite of EnterNow and measured under load (with a board connected). Different boards pull different amounts from memory so bang on +5v for one PCB might not be the same for another. Those G-Nets are picky feckers from what I've heard too. Just adjust in tiny increments and you'll be fine.

Yes that Jamma pinout is fine for the +5v position.

I've found this old pic on my iPhone, but its the same psu as I've not changed it yet.
3 green dials at the front as you said. So I just connect the multimeter (any ideas which settings on that?) and adjust the dial slowly and test the GNet until it powers up?

Thanks for the help guys, don't want to kill my new GNet, it would be a sin as its Pyongys old modded one

o1s1n · 25-09-2013 11:44am

Have a read through this tutorial or one of the videos before you do anything.

Try reading the voltage on a battery first

https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/how-to-use-a-multimeter/parts-of-a-multimeter

MrVestek · 25-09-2013 11:47am

Don't take care when adjusting the pot just go mental with it.

Nothing will go wrong. At all. Ever.

Nothing will go on fire... probably.

Andrew76 · 25-09-2013 11:52am

Yep those are the dials.

I'm assuming here that your cab is working fine with another board plugged in? As in the +5v voltage is in and around 5 or there abouts (mine is above irrc).

If so then plug the G-Net into the Jamma loom as normal, turn on the cab. Turn on the multi-meter and set it to 20V setting (or closest to it), black cable should be plugged into the 'COM' port, red into the other. Touch the end of the black probe to a GND pin on the G-Net's jamma edge, put the red one on the +5v. Check the voltage. (Doesn't matter if you put black on +5 and red on GND, you'll just get a negative reading.)

Adjust the +5v green dial by a very small amount, check voltage to see if it's changed by much. Rinse and repeat til you get it working.

Just remember - if/when you plug back in another board - you might need to re-adjust the voltage if the G-Net is a good bit off the +5v.

Similar to o1s1n's link, this is a great video on multimeter use:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF3OyQ3HwfU

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