Ai straws

flatout11 · 21-10-2011 4:41pm #1

Over the past 10 years i have ended up buying AI straws which i have either never used or only used a few of, as a result there are a glut of straws which i am unlikely ever to use just lying in the tank, anyone else have this problem
its a pity there isnt a company out there that could would facilitate selling these straws on again

pakalasa · 21-10-2011 4:45pm

Just out of curiosity, what have you got?

ceannfort · 21-10-2011 4:52pm

Post up a list of what you've got an you never know.
I know Rumsden sell straws for other people on there website from time to time.

flatout11 · 21-10-2011 4:52pm

pakalasa wrote: »

Just out of curiosity, what have you got?

a mixture of everything TBH i badly need to empty out the tank and count them up
few old ones spring to mind that i have used dam all of
rsj nwk vdf guy hrb unv abi etc..

flatout11 · 21-10-2011 4:54pm

ceannfort wrote: »

Post up a list of what you've got an you never know.
I know Rumsden sell straws for other people on there website from time to time.

i think the suituation is different in the uk selling straws on again isnt a big issue the likes of rupert taylor (rumsden) or for the limmys semenstore provide a good outlet

ceannfort · 21-10-2011 4:58pm

Anyone have unwanted VDC straws (Dovea Belgian Blue)?

flatout11 · 21-10-2011 5:14pm

ceannfort wrote: »

Anyone have unwanted VDC straws (Dovea Belgian Blue)?

if you get spares i will take them or if anyone has EWN straws

pakalasa · 21-10-2011 5:15pm

flatout11 wrote: »

a mixture of everything TBH i badly need to empty out the tank and count them up
few old ones spring to mind that i have used dam all of
rsj nwk vdf guy hrb unv abi etc..

There isn't much wrong with any of those. Would you not just use them up?

flatout11 · 21-10-2011 5:24pm

pakalasa wrote: »

There isn't much wrong with any of those. Would you not just use them up?

there only the ones that sprng to mind!!! and there is always a new one i want to try out!!! plusd the year in battle with the bulls - have to give them a few to keep them happy afterall

ceannfort · 21-10-2011 6:03pm

One that I'm sure someone has an will never use is dovea nanouk. Some of the best calves I ever had, you just had to pick your cows carefully.

bogman_bass · 21-10-2011 7:05pm

Thats the problem with DIY. At least with a technician you only pay for the ones you use

wiggy123 · 22-10-2011 11:10pm

any Angus straws???

jeff greene · 23-10-2011 6:18pm

bogman_bass wrote: »

Thats the problem with DIY. At least with a technician you only pay for the ones you use

I see your point but its more to do with no self control and shiny catalogs:rolleyes: I have my tank only 3 years and already have enough in it to do most of next year.:o

bogman_bass · 23-10-2011 6:37pm

But thats kind of my point. Thats why I'm afraid to go DIY, I'd be like a kid in a sweet shop! At least when you o ly buy one at a time the tempation is taken away

jeff greene · 23-10-2011 6:48pm

bogman_bass wrote: »

But thats kind of my point. Thats why I'm afraid to go DIY, I'd be like a kid in a sweet shop! At least when you o ly buy one at a time the tempation is taken away

Or investment:pac:

Your own tank doesn't limit you though, I use the Munster technician but hardly none of their straws. They won't go to waste away, use them on repeats or cows with unsure heats etc.

Bizzum · 23-10-2011 8:43pm

jeff greene wrote:

Your own tank doesn't limit you though, I use the Munster technician but hardly none of their straws. They won't go to waste away, use them on repeats or cows with unsure heats etc.

Same boat here. We use mainly Eurogene and our AI man carries heir own straws and private straws in another flask.
The repeats are usually €10/€12, whereas it's €15 to put in a private straw + the cost of the straw, even for a repeat! So for a repeat it's better economics to use a stock straw and not a private straw.

What's the story if OP wanted to sell off some straws? Are there any snags to be aware of or is it as simple as it seems?

wiggy123 · 23-10-2011 8:51pm

am unsure--think u did a license to trade straws..no?? i use Pg--but also buy straws of other ai companies--dovea etc..they transfer them to there.my ai man! carries my straws around with him

Bizzum · 23-10-2011 9:11pm

wiggy123 wrote: »

am unsure--think u did a license to trade straws..no?? i use Pg--but also buy straws of other ai companies--dovea etc..they transfer them to there.my ai man! carries my straws around with him

There certainly is a licence pertaining to DIY AI but I'm not sure as to the exact terms of the licence.
Does it for example disbar private sales, between parties that both have a licence etc?

bogman_bass · 23-10-2011 11:34pm

all sales have to go through an an approved storage center, usually a stud. it is not legal to do private sales of straws. now it happens and you might get away with it but if the vets in the department find out you'll have problems

Highland · 25-10-2011 10:10pm

Had some valuable Charolais Straws a few years ago - advertised them, some other lads did the same thing and got calls from DVO, you cant sell straws privately and AI companies can't take them back for disease reasons.

Bizzum · 25-10-2011 10:36pm

Highland wrote: »

Had some valuable Charolais Straws a few years ago - advertised them, some other lads did the same thing and got calls from DVO, you cant sell straws privately and AI companies can't take them back for disease reasons.

I have some at the minute being held by my AI company.
If I want to sell them can I?

bogman_bass · 26-10-2011 12:24am

basically no.

flatout11 · 26-10-2011 2:35pm

Bizzum wrote: »

I have some at the minute being held by my AI company.
If I want to sell them can I?

thats different as they havent left the AI company
id imagine some arrangement could be reached

flatout11 · 26-10-2011 2:37pm

Highland wrote: »

got calls from DVO, you cant sell straws privately and AI companies can't take them back for disease reasons.

it doesnt make sense really as hey are stored in liquid nitrogen

bogman_bass · 26-10-2011 2:38pm

I take it they are in a technicians pot yes?

Bizzum · 26-10-2011 3:32pm

bogman_bass wrote: »

I take it they are in a technicians pot yes?

Yep. Currently travelling the highways and byways of Meath, Westmeath, Kildare and Offaly!

bogman_bass · 26-10-2011 3:44pm

well an A.I. center cant take returns even from its own technicians but if he was to bull somebody elses cow by accident with your straw and the other farmer compinsated you for your loss it probably wouldnt be the end of the world

but by the letter of the law no, you cant

Bizzum · 26-10-2011 4:00pm

bogman_bass wrote: »

well an A.I. center cant take returns even from its own technicians but if he was to bull somebody elses cow by accident with your straw and the other farmer compinsated you for your loss it probably wouldnt be the end of the world
but by the letter of the law no, you cant

Interesting. Thanks for that.
I think for simplicity sake I'll just get him to stick them in one of my own cows!
As regards an AI man making a mistake, it has happened us, We had a PB Charolais heifer AI'd to a BB, genuine mistake. Powerful calf resulted!

flatout11 · 26-10-2011 4:37pm

bogman_bass wrote: »

well an A.I. center cant take returns even from its own technicians

whats the disese risk there concerned about???

bogman_bass · 26-10-2011 7:34pm

I dont know the department vets come up with some crazy ideas. like that a pathogen can exit one sealed plastic straw, swim through liquid nitrogen and then enter another sealed plastic straw a foot away:rolleyes:

flatout11 · 27-10-2011 9:34am

bogman_bass wrote: »

I dont know the department vets come up with some crazy ideas. like that a pathogen can exit one sealed plastic straw, swim through liquid nitrogen and then enter another sealed plastic straw a foot away:rolleyes:

ah yea that happens all the time :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: its a funny setup really

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