Remove the Hunting forum

TeddyTedson

I don't think these people should have a forum to communicate. I'm not pro animal rights or anything, and even don't think bull fighting should have been banned in Spain but hunting animals for the only reason being is to kill an innocent animal is just wrong. Maybe it can be looked in to. I'm sure a lot of people would agree.

Witcher

You're on a roll man:pac:

TeddyTedson

Blay wrote: »

You're on a roll tonight man:pac:

leave me the hell along you psychopath

Cookie_Monster

what about all those who hold culling licences or hunt deer which are a non native invasive species that are serious damaging areas like Wicklow and need to be hunted and removed?

TeddyTedson

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

what about all those who hold culling licences or hunt deer which are a non native invasive species that are serious damaging areas like Wicklow and need to be hunted and removed?

You're getting into semantics now. I've murdered myself in the past, but realise there is no room for it now in society now that I'm older.
If you're talking about the grey squirrel I say fair enough, kill them. But apart from that, I think we have to remember we're all going to have to answer to someone one day.

Kadongy

Live and let live, I say
oh wait...

Zaph

This has already been discussed at length in this forum. If you don't like the contents of a forum, don't read it. We won't be closing forums just because some people don't like them. If we did that we'd probably have to close every forum.

tfitzgerald

I think mr tedson is looking for an argument .

My name is URL

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I'm not pro animal rights or anything

Okay

Many of those you so ignorantly speak of are pro-animal rights despite what you might want to believe.

-Chris-

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I'm not pro animal rights or anything...

Really?

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I've murdered myself in the past...

It's interesting that you chose to refer to it as murder rather than hunting.

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I think we have to remember we're all going to have to answer to someone one day.

And is this a religious inference?


Sounds like you have a very strong ideological position in this argument.

Overheal

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I don't think these people should have a forum to communicate. I'm not pro animal rights or anything, and even don't think bull fighting should have been banned in Spain but hunting animals for the only reason being is to kill an innocent animal is just wrong. Maybe it can be looked in to. I'm sure a lot of people would agree.

I can't think of many hunters that kill and just throw away the carcass. And if they are they're missing a fine chance to score some deer sausage or wild turkey. I also believe there's some boar in my region that would probably be an interesting eat.

Nodin

Overheal wrote: »

........... I also believe there's some boar in my region that would probably be an interesting eat.

One of the things I've always been curious about - the taste of truly wild boar. I blame a combination of Asterix & Obelix as a child and the odd fantasy novel hence, meself.

Sparks

Nodin wrote: »

One of the things I've always been curious about - the taste of truly wild boar.

Unbelievably good. Like someone mixed perfectly cooked rashers with steak.
(If you cook it right, that is. Low-and-slow cooking of nice wild boar sausages will manage it, as will most braising methods).

Venison is equally nice when well cooked - if you want a guaranteed-to-be-tasty intro to venison, I'd strongly recommend the tortelinni di cervo in carluccios - think ravioli but with a red wine braised venison filling. Be careful you don't eat the plate though.

Rabbit... well, it's a bit like chicken, really. In fact, that's what it used to be until about fifty years ago (ie. it used to be the cheap protein source for most homes). Rabbit pie is nice, especially with a bit of curry powder added.

Not tried pigeon, though I'm told it's delicious.

Pheasant... well, to be honest, I could take it or leave it, it's kindof turkeyish to my tastes. But pheasant and venison pie, now that's another thing altogether, and really, really good.

There are a lot of decent recipes in the Game recipies and tips thread in the Hunting forum.

tfitzgerald

Quote:
Originally Posted by TeddyTedson
I've murdered myself in the past...


UDA /UVF ?

Sparks

tfitzgerald wrote: »

Quote:
Originally Posted by TeddyTedson
I've murdered myself in the past...


UDA /UVF ?

Nope, time traveller looking to create a paradox.

tfitzgerald

Sparks wrote: »

Nope, time traveller looking to create a paradox.

Time traveller! Me too. I'll meet you yesterday at 5 o clock in dublin:)

Orion

Sparks wrote: »

There are a lot of decent recipes in the Game recipies and tips thread in the Hunting forum.

But you have to murder innocent animals to try these recipes right? :eek:

Orion

tfitzgerald wrote: »

Time traveller! Me too. I'll meet you yesterday at 5 o clock in dublin:)

Bring a microwave

TeddyTedson

Okay lets leave it at that.
I just didn't think it was right to have a forum where these "hunters" can brag about how many animals they've killed, for pleasure.

Sparks

Orion wrote: »

But you have to murder innocent animals to try these recipes right? :eek:

Well, no, but it is harder to skin and debone them without killing them first.

Witcher

Murder? Most definitely.....tasty murder:P

Sparks

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I just didn't think it was right to have a forum where these "hunters" can brag about how many animals they've killed, for pleasure.

"hunters" ???
Pretty sure they're hunters. I mean, they kill, skin, joint, debone, cook and eat the animals. What do they have to do to lose the quotation marks, mate with the animals' parents to produce the offspring to hunt? Track them naked through the wicklow hills with only a knife between their teeth to dispatch them with? Eat the meat raw, freshly cut from the steaming carcass right there on the hillside?
I mean, enquiring minds want to know Teddy - what do these poor chaps have to do to earn sufficient respect in your sight that you don't need to call them "hunters", but rather hunters?
I'm sure they'll be more than happy to do whatever you'd require of them so that they can carry out their legal and ethical pursuits in a way that satisfies your definition of what's right.

TeddyTedson

I eat meat myself. I don't have a problem with people "hunting" if they're going to eat the deer, a man has to eat. But people who kill just for a bit of fun, that's not right, is it?

-Chris-

Surely then you're looking for the "Hunting" forum to be removed? :rolleyes:

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I don't think these people should have a "forum" to communicate. I'm not pro "animal" rights or anything, and even don't think bull fighting should have been banned in "Spain" but hunting "animals" for the only reason being is to kill an "innocent" animal is just wrong. Maybe it can be looked in to. I'm sure a lot of "people" would agree.

FYOP

Witcher

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I eat meat myself. I don't have a problem with people "hunting" if they're going to eat the deer, a man has to eat. But people who kill just for a bit of fun, that's not right, is it?

I'd imagine nearly every deerstalker eats what they shoot, I know people who deerstalk and it's a tough game to get into, not every yahoo is out taking shots at deer for fun.

The Hill Billy

Sparks - Pigeon is gorgeous. Gently fried in oil & butter, a dash of balsamic & worcester sauce to towards the end. Serve with grilled field mushrooms & some wild salad leaves. Drizzle the sauce from the pan over the lot.

Dinner from my back garden - does that make me a murderer?

Sparks

TeddyTedson wrote: »

But people who kill just for a bit of fun, that's not right, is it?

And how many of the hunters on the forum kill just for a bit of fun?

Or are you mistaking the pride taken in doing something that has to be done, well and competently, with sociopathy? I mean, it's an easy mistake to make, I can't count the number of times I've heard someone describe a bowel movement as "good" and immediately thought "feck, that person's a sociopath!"; or seen someone finish cutting a hedge and say "that's not bad" and thought "feck, best have them locked up before they skin and eat a toddler".

You sure that's not what you're doing here?

Sparks

The Hill Billy wrote: »

Sparks - Pigeon is gorgeous. Gently fried in oil & butter, a dash of balsamic & worcester sauce to towards the end. Serve with grilled field mushrooms & some wild salad leaves. Drizzle the sauce from the pan over the lot.
Dinner from my back garden - does that make me a murderer?

Well, no HB, it's the six dead postmen you've buried in that garden since 1994 that makes you a murderer.
The pigeon thing is what makes you a cook.
Easy mistake to make though, don't worry about it.

Nodin

Sparks wrote: »

Unbelievably good. Like someone mixed perfectly cooked rashers with steak.
(If you cook it right, that is. Low-and-slow cooking of nice wild boar sausages will manage it, as will most braising methods).

Venison is equally nice when well cooked - if you want a guaranteed-to-be-tasty intro to venison, I'd strongly recommend the tortelinni di cervo in carluccios - think ravioli but with a red wine braised venison filling. Be careful you don't eat the plate though.

Rabbit... well, it's a bit like chicken, really. In fact, that's what it used to be until about fifty years ago (ie. it used to be the cheap protein source for most homes). Rabbit pie is nice, especially with a bit of curry powder added.

Not tried pigeon, though I'm told it's delicious.

Pheasant... well, to be honest, I could take it or leave it, it's kindof turkeyish to my tastes. But pheasant and venison pie, now that's another thing altogether, and really, really good.

There are a lot of decent recipes in the Game recipies and tips thread in the Hunting forum.

The Father used bring home shot Pheasant on a semi-regular basis years ago and I always enjoyed it. There used be hooks in the shed at the back of the house for hanging them.

I've had Duck and Goose as well. Goose rated "ok" and Duck I found (I suppose unsuprisingly) 'watery'...lacking in substance. Both were sourced from a butchers as opposed to hunted game.

Venison...theres another thing that piques my curiosity. I've been 'bambied' though, and would probably be unable to do the deed there myself.

TeddyTedson

Sparks wrote: »

And how many of the hunters on the forum kill just for a bit of fun?

Or are you mistaking the pride taken in doing something that has to be done, well and competently, with sociopathy? I mean, it's an easy mistake to make, I can't count the number of times I've heard someone describe a bowel movement as "good" and immediately thought "feck, that person's a sociopath!"; or seen someone finish cutting a hedge and say "that's not bad" and thought "feck, best have them locked up before they skin and eat a toddler".

You sure that's not what you're doing here?

Have you or have you not ever killed an animal unnecessarily?

Nodin

Sparks wrote: »

Well, no, but it is harder to skin and debone them without killing them first.

....and noisy, which - given the lack of 'sound proofing' in a great deal of recently built housing - may well cause some unnessecary worry.