The Official After Hours Election Day Thread *Mod Note in OP*

K-9

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

If McGuinness becomes president, does anyone find it funny that he will be the commander-in-chief of the Irish Army, an army he rejected when he was in the IRA.

Funny, nope! Then again there were similar concerns about DeV and the Army and the Guards in particular in 32, indeed they had far more weight.

This is just a symbolic role but McGuinness inspecting the Army would seem rather odd!

Freddie59

1. Sean Gallagher.

Yes to Judges Pay Referendum.

NO to investigative referendum

DEFTLEFTHAND

The Leprechaun is going to walk this I reckon.

Montjeu

Sin é.

Hopefully the electorate used their brains today when voting.

LordSutch

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

If McGuinness becomes president, does anyone find it funny that he will be the commander-in-chief of the Irish Army, an army he rejected when he was in the IRA.

Don't worry, he wont be anywhere near the big boys . . . .

Higgins (or Gallagher) 1st & 2nd.
David Norris 3rd.
Gaybriel Mitchell 4th
Mc IRA Guinness 5th
Dana Rosemary Scallion 6th
Mary Airbrush Davis 7th.

10green bottles

BOOM !! That's it folk's. Best of luck to everyone.

Ironé

Sorry if this has been asked already but does anyone know when the moratorium ends? Will we see some exit poll results tonight?

Wolfe Tone

LordSutch wrote: »

Don't worry, he wont be anywhere near the big boys . . . .

Higgins (or Gallagher) 1st & 2nd.
David Norris 3rd.
Gaybriel Mitchell 4th
Mc IRA Guinness 5th
Dana Rosemary Scallion 6th
Mary Airbrush Davis 7th.

5th eh? Bit optimistic on your part, I think he will do considerably better than that.

DEFTLEFTHAND

This is how I see the result going tomorrow.

1. Higgins

2. MMG

3.Norris

4. Gallagher

5. Mitchell

6. Dana

7. Davis

Ironé

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

5th eh? Bit optimistic on your part, I think he will do considerably better than that.

He will def do better than 5th - 3rd or 4th more like it.

10green bottles

Ironé wrote: »

He will def do better than 5th - 3rd or 4th more like it.

2nd in First pref & 3rd overall i would reckon.

Eve_Dublin

I don't live in Ireland but I would've voted Higgins and only Higgins. There's no one else on that list I'd but a number beside.



I'm gutted though....all of my family members living in Ireland voted Martin McGuinness....i'm genuinely disillusioned with my own family tonight. Horrible feeling. I thought we grew out of that Republican bollocks years ago within my family but evidently not.

efb

1&2 and thats all she wrote.

My name is URL

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

I thought we grew out of that Republican bollocks years ago

Well, we do live in a Republic.. :eek:

Big difference between nationalism and republicanism.. the two are used far too interchangeably in Ireland.

lmaopml

If MMG comes in 2nd or 3rd as a result of Gallaghers unmasking in the media, I'd imagine that SF would view that as quite a victory and be very happy with that unexpected result. I think even Martin would have been surprised if he actually won - dum dum duuuuummmm - but he could!....stranger things have happened, and the poles have not been exactly consistent at times.

Personally, I like Higgins - don't care what he looks like or how old he is, he's a decent guy, and is still firing on all cylinders....and there's something kinda charming about him too and quick witted.

Kasabian

I have always had great respect for MDH and his stance on human rights, these was greatly increased the day he called Micheal Graham a wanker, on a live debate on Newstalk over Israel and Palestine.

K-9

My name is URL wrote: »

Well, we do live in a Republic.. :eek:

Big difference between nationalism and republicanism.. the two are used far too interchangeably in Ireland.

Irelands a bit strange like that, Republicanism which should be a noble term has been hijacked, same in the US, Nationalism which is a dirty word elsewhere is seen as the middle ground here! In a way they are in reverse here.

osnola ibax

1. Higgins
2. McGuinness
3. Norris

Yes to judges, no to other yolk

efb

If Michael D wins will we all get three wishes? And what will you wish for? I assume his pot of gold is his pensions…

Mine:-
1. World Peace,
2. Ending Global Poverty,
3. Donncha O'Callaghan and Sonny Bill Williams in a threesome! Werk!

Killer Pigeon

My name is URL wrote: »

Well, we do live in a Republic.. :eek:

Big difference between nationalism and republicanism.. the two are used far too interchangeably in Ireland.

Monarchy's all the rage nowadays.

Killer Pigeon

efb wrote: »

If Michael D wins will we all get three wishes? And what will you wish for? I assume his pot of gold is his pensions…

Mine:-
1. World Peace,
2. Ending Global Poverty,
3. Donncha O'Callaghan and Sonny Bill Williams in a threesome! Werk!

Don't forget the toilet roll.

LordSutch

lmaopml wrote: »

If MMG comes in 2nd or 3rd as a result of Gallaghers unmasking in the media, I'd imagine that SF would view that as quite a victory and be very happy with that unexpected result. I think even Martin would have been surprised if he actually won - dum dum duuuuummmm - but he could!....stranger things have happened, and the poles have not been exactly consistent at times.

Well indeed, if McGuinness came in with 18, 19, or 20% that would be a massive boost for Sinn Fain and the reputation of the IRAs campaign. Thankfully most of us abhor what they did & what thay stand for, so lets hope that the old Provo comes well down the list . . . .

Gallagher
Higgins
Norris
Mitchell

K-9

Kasabian wrote: »

I have always had great respect for MDH and his stance on human rights, these was greatly increased the day he called Micheal Graham a wanker, on a live debate on Newstalk over Israel and Palestine.

Best laugh of the campaign. A few eejits thought that was a negative for Higgins, shouting downing a Tea Partyite is fine by me!

tolosenc

Gallagher got my only preference. The only guy even vaguely suited to the job.

But the actually important ballots were the referenda. Voted no to both.

My name is URL

Interview with Gallagher on RTE1 atm.

starbelgrade

tolosenc wrote: »

Gallagher got my only preference. The only guy even vaguely suited to the job.

Why is he suited to the job?

He has no political credentials, he is a failed businessman who when things went belly up, got handed a job by his FF cronies on the board of FAS, he has numerous dodgy dealings with FF party fundings & he has shown himself on live television in front of an entire nation to be a complete liar & untrustworthy character.

He has absolutely nothing to offer to the role of President.

Even Dana would be a better candidate.

sdanseo

My name is URL wrote: »

Interview with Gallagher on RTE1 atm.

B..b...b...bertie Gallagher

I read the man's autobiography - more truth-bending than the bible.

lmaopml

LordSutch wrote: »

Well indeed, if McGuinness came in with 18, 19, or 20% that would be a massive boost for Sinn Fain and the reputation of the IRAs campaign. Thankfully most of us abhor what they did & what thay stand for, so lets hope that the old Provo comes well down the list . . . .

Gallagher
Higgins
Norris
Mitchell

Hmm, I don't know if it would be a 'nod' to the IRA Campaign from the voters - generally thinking, I would imagine people voted for him on the basis of his involvement in the peace process, and the latter years. There HAD to be a McGuinness in history somewhere in order for a peace process to take place...and of course a Hume, Paisley etc.

So, yep, I think you are right that people do abhor what happened - the violent history, the injustice, the bloodshed etc. - and are ultimately glad that it's gone political. I voted Dana second strategically as I know she won't win, and moved MMG down the list because he actually stood a chance, and also because although I don't 'love' or 'hate' him, I don't want to see him as President. I do recognise that there always had to be a MMG for the status quo to come about though...which is why he's doing ok.

So, even if he did 'win' - I don't think it necessarily means that people are supporting 'violent' republicanism, rather peaceful progress. Still don't want to see him win though, it's too early for that...SF will be happy he 'placed' I would imagine..

Eve_Dublin

My name is URL wrote: »

Well, we do live in a Republic.. :eek:

Big difference between nationalism and republicanism.. the two are used far too interchangeably in Ireland.

You know exactly what I mean when I say that. Not getting into this pointless discussion with you.

Killer Pigeon

Does Gallagher have any other opinion on politics other than its benefits to his own back-pocket?

Wolfe Tone

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

You know exactly what I mean when I say that. Not getting into this pointless discussion with you.

He has having a bit of a laugh, I dont think he was being obtuse or anything?

Killer Pigeon

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

He has having a bit of a laugh, I dont think he was being obtuse or anything?

IRA/SinnFéin-esque republicanism isn't a laughing matter, it's a serious problem that needs to be ironed out of society.

Wolfe Tone

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

IRA/SinnFéin-esque republicanism isn't a laughing matter, it's a serious problem that needs to be ironed out of society.

There are shinners under your bed, better look out!

Kasabian

I often wonder if I had been born a Nationalist when the civil rights movement was going on in Derry/ NI would I have joined the IRA, I probably would have.

I often wonder if I had been born as a black person in South Africa would I have joined the ANC, I probably would have.

Ditto with the black Panthers in Southern States of America.

If I had been born in Palestine would I have joined Hamas, probably.

If I was of age would I have joined the British Army in 1939, I probably would have.

Someone has to stand up and fight back.

" Give us your planes and we will give you our baskets".

Killer Pigeon

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

There are shinners under your bed, better look out!

Sounds like a good name for a horror film, "The Shinning".

I'm more worried about the Shinners in this thread though.

Ghandee

Why is the name 'Martin McGuinness' written in a different style of text where you select your vote OP?

The Davestator

I reckon MMG will come in on about 17% - a bit more than sinn feins support and they'll be happy with that. Higgins will walk it with Mitchell doing surprisingly well is my prediction.

Killer Pigeon

Ghandee wrote: »

Why is the name 'Martin McGuinness' written in a different style of text where you select your vote OP?

You mean italics? It's because you've already voted 'McGuinness' on this poll.

starbelgrade

Ghandee wrote: »

Why is the name 'Martin McGuinness' written in a different style of text where you select your vote OP?

The person you voted for in the poll is shown in italics when you log in & view it.

Wolfe Tone

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Sounds like a good name for a horror film, "The Shinning".

I'm more worried about the Shinners in this thread though.

Worried about the likes of me? I wouldn't, I'm sure we can be best pals.

Ghandee

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

You mean italics? It's because you've already voted 'McGuinness' on this poll.

No, I actually haven't voted yet?

Dartz

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

You mean italics? It's because you've already voted 'McGuinness' on this poll.

Ah.... so that explains why there's so many votes.

And here I thought 115 people were short-sighted morons who liked buzzwords that made them nod their head. :rolleyes:

Killer Pigeon

Kasabian wrote: »

I often wonder if I had been born a Nationalist when the civil rights movement was going on in Derry/ NI would I have joined the IRA, I probably would have.

I often wonder if I had been born as a black person in South Africa would I have joined the ANC, I probably would have.

Ditto with the black Panthers in Southern States of America.

If I had been born in Palestine would I have joined Hamas, probably.

If I was of age would I have joined the British Army in 1939, I probably would have.

Someone has to stand up and fight back.

" Give us your planes and we will give you our baskets".

The very fact that McGuinness was only 21 y/o when he became second-in-command of the IRA shows that the IRA during the 70's was just a gang of impressionable young hooligans going around causing untold mayhem.

Morlar

Ghandee wrote: »

Why is the name 'Martin McGuinness' written in a different style of text where you select your vote OP?

That just tells you you voted for him, your choice is in italics. It looks the same for me

ShooterSF

starbelgrade wrote: »

Why is he suited to the job?

He has no political credentials, he is a failed businessman who when things went belly up, got handed a job by his FF cronies on the board of FAS, he has numerous dodgy dealings with FF party fundings & he has shown himself on live television in front of an entire nation to be a complete liar & untrustworthy character.

He has absolutely nothing to offer to the role of President.

Even Dana would be a better candidate.

And I was just reaching for the thanks button :P

Wolfe Tone

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

The very fact that McGuinness was only 21 y/o when he became second-in-command of the IRA shows that the IRA during the 70's was just a gang of impressionable young hooligans going around causing untold mayhem.

Rubbish, many IRA commanders and officers in the war of independence were around that age... Tom Barry for example.

Killer Pigeon

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Worried about the likes of me? I wouldn't, I'm sure we can be best pals.

Wait ... you're a Shinner?

Ghandee wrote: »

No, I actually haven't voted yet?

Dartz wrote: »

Ah.... so that explains why there's so many votes.

And here I thought 115 people were short-sighted morons who liked buzzwords that made them nod their head. :rolleyes:

Wolf Tone hacked the poll.

Kasabian

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

The very fact that McGuinness was only 21 y/o when he became second-in-command of the IRA shows that the IRA during the 70's was just a gang of impressionable young hooligans going around causing untold mayhem.

Yeah the shooting of innocent people on the streets of your home city would make you impressionable and make you grow up fast.

Morlar

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Wolf Tone hacked the poll.

And so the excuses begin . . .

Ghandee

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

You mean italics? It's because you've already voted 'McGuinness' on this poll.

starbelgrade wrote: »

The person you voted for in the poll is shown in italics when you log in & view it.

Morlar wrote: »

That just tells you you voted for him, your choice is in italics. It looks the same for me

*Grumbles under his breath*
DOH!
Grrrrrr, fcukin secret poll in me arse!