Weird Lights In The Sky Last Night

neo2010

Lads, I really don't think it was a Volkswagon - whatever was flying about the sky was a tad bit more advanced.:pac:

Anybody else see the lights?

Frank Ryan Jr

OP

You say the lights were as high if not higher than the ISS.
If that was the case then they would be visible from everywhere in Ireland.

Regarding the objects size, brightness, distance and speed.
Without knowing what the object was it is impossible to estimate anything accurately.

All you can give is it's apparent brightness to you,
your observation point,
how much it moved in the sky (by either
degrees or using known constellations as a reference)
and how long it took in seconds.

It's very difficult to estimate any actual real, speed, brightness etc
with little information on the object.

Imagine a 1 million candlepower search light in a car 10 miles away and
a small hand held MagLight 100 yards from you, both in the same line of sight,
the person holding the Maglight walks across your field of view and
at the same moment someone in a car travelling 100mph moves the same way.
they will both appear to move at the same speed and to be the same brightness.
Just a simple example of how unless you know distance and actual brightness,
how difficult it would be to accurately suggest real speed.


Also you say it was cloudy?
To what degree?
Passing clouds can play a big part in the illusion of movement of a fixed or
slow moving point of light.

You also say it was not a satellite,
I assume you have seen satellites and thier movements before so we can discount the NOSS Triplets.

I'd really like to read a more detailed description from you as to the movements of the objects.

Kind regards,

Frank
http://frankryanjr.weebly.com/index.html

neo2010

I don't want to sound flippant or anything but it's getting very disheartening at this stage that some on this thread are trying their best to pick holes in what I saw.

I am not a physicist, nor do I profess to be an astrologer - all I know is that no matter what random theories are thrown here, I know exactly what I saw and any notions about satellites, balloons, gas or anything else will not suffice.

These lights moved in conjunction with each other, separated in what can only be described as a coordinated fashion and flew about for 5 mins performing an insane bunch of really impressive maneuvers.

As I said before, I am intelligent enough to distinguish between something a relative distance above me and something literally miles up in the air. I really want to avoid all this alien crap - but if the people commenting viewed this, they would know that today's technology doesn't even crawl close to what was performed in the skies.

Insect Overlord

neo2010 wrote: »

I don't want to sound flippant or anything but it's getting very disheartening at this stage that some on this thread are trying their best to pick holes in what I saw.

At this stage I can only suggest you post in the Paranormal Forum.

People are perfectly entitled to post here as they have been.

dr.fuzzenstein

neo2010 wrote: »

I don't want to sound flippant or anything but it's getting very disheartening at this stage that some on this thread are trying their best to pick holes in what I saw.

I am not a physicist, nor do I profess to be an astrologer - all I know is that no matter what random theories are thrown here, I know exactly what I saw and any notions about satellites, balloons, gas or anything else will not suffice.

These lights moved in conjunction with each other, separated in what can only be described as a coordinated fashion and flew about for 5 mins performing an insane bunch of really impressive maneuvers.

As I said before, I am intelligent enough to distinguish between something a relative distance above me and something literally miles up in the air. I really want to avoid all this alien crap - but if the people commenting viewed this, they would know that today's technology doesn't even crawl close to what was performed in the skies.

Well, these same lights are being discussed in the Clare forum.
There will always be those who will ask "EXACTLY how high was the object, what was its velocity in m/s, what materials where they made out of, what was the form of propulsion and was it dilithium or trilithium that powered it's engine, you don't know? Then you're talking bullcrap and are a drugged up loon, you saw a weather balloon, lock this man up!"
A bit idiotic to expect exact answers based on a casual observation.
My dad saw something with my two brothers, my GF definitely saw something that I won't go into and one night I saw a star (as in same size and brightness) that has been stationary in the sky for about 30 seconds describe a curve and fly off into the distance (as in away from the Earth) to vanish within a few seconds.
And certainly none of these describe a curve when doing so.
I know a little bit about astronomy, I can identify a plane, a meteorite, a shooting star (the same but burns up before landing), a satellite, the space shuttle and, of course, the ISS along with some satellites that periodically flash due to their solar paddles.
None of these object stay stationary only to suddenly accelerate and vanish away from the Earth in seconds.
I'm not saying space ship, since I do not have enough information to make that assumption, but definitely UFO, unidentified flying object.
Skepticism is important, but a lot of people will simply dismiss stuff out of hand because what they want is the actual ship, the aliens, an invitation to their planet, gala dinner with an alien band performing "We Are Aliens", documents signed by the aliens and notarized by all of Earth's leaders. And then they might still not be entirely convinced.
A lot of what people see is indeed planes, satellites, planets (Venus always spooks people due to it's brightness) and the ever popular swamp gas and weather balloons or maybe had a few too many to drink or snort or mainline, but I've seen and heard enough to take the Fox Moulder position on this.

Frank Ryan Jr

neo2010 wrote: »

I don't want to sound flippant or anything but it's getting very disheartening at this stage that some on this thread are trying their best to pick holes in what I saw.

Speaking for myself, I'm just trying to establish a more detailed account if your observation and to advise that any object at the height of the ISS, which you said they were at if not higher, would be visible over all of Ireland.
This is just simply a fact and not an attempt to discount what you say you saw.
I am meerly attempting to suggest that the objects must have been closer to ground
as I have not heard of amy other reports from other parts of Ireland (except Clare - if in fact it is the same thing) about this sighting.

neo2010 wrote: »

I am not a physicist, nor do I profess to be an astrologer

I assume you mean astronomer
:-)
big difference!
;-)

neo2010 wrote: »

I know exactly what I saw ...
These lights moved in conjunction with each other, separated in what can only be described as a coordinated fashion and flew about for 5 mins performing an insane bunch of really impressive maneuvers.

I'm not trying to be insulting here,
I am actually curious,
but could you please clarify
"coordinated fashon" &
"insane bunch of really impressive maneuvers"
This can mean anything to anybody.
I am honestly trying to establish in my own
minds eye what you observed.

neo2010

Yeah, big mistake, I actually meant astronomer (typing too fast).:D

I wouldn't be able to provide anything concrete, just rough estimates.

Like the OP said, these lights weren't just hovering stationary, they were zooming about the sky, moving in a lot of weird positions and coming to full stops, then zooming again to the end of the sky.

The lights were bright enough and easily visible in the sky - I was debating to myself whether to record but due to cloud cover and the idea of being ridiculed, I choose not to (thought more people saw this and as such, would be able to back me up).

They looked really high up and didn't look at all like airplanes, satellites or the like. I appreciate people providing answers because I'm in the same boat - would just like to know what I, along with others, saw.

I wouldn't like to insinuate that it was extraterrestrial or anything like that - but it was definitely a UFO. I've never seen anything with as much velocity as these lights - the speeds were unreal, everything look very effortless with the movements, nothing of the like can be seen at the present time.

concussion

Zuroph mentioned a lightshow in the racecourse - could it have been high powered lights reflecting off clouds. It would explain their co-ordinated behaviour and ability to cross from horizon to horizon quickly.

neo2010

As much as I would like to believe it was laser lights, I really don't think it was.

Some nightclubs used to shine lights into the sky, but these looked completely different. You would have to actually see them to truly grasp the speeds.

Can't stress enough just how fast these went - if you were looking at the visible night sky, just look to your far left and imagine a light zooming from that side to the very far right of the sky in a matter of a second or two - crazy fast.

Comhrá

just look to your far left and imagine a light zooming from that side to the very far right of the sky in a matter of a second or two - crazy fast.

I'm no scientist but I'm thinking that any object small or large, within the Earth's atmosphere, traveling at those speeds would have generated a sonic boom or some sort of shockwave or disturbance travelling through even the thin air at up to 50,000 feet altitude. I'm thinking of the effects of spaceshuttles and satellites re-entering the atmosphere from orbit - at relatively slow speeds - and they can glow white-hot or even burn up.

neo2010, whatever you saw, and I'm not doubting you for a second, I'd guess that it was some sort of illusory phenomenon from an earthly source, as there was no widespread observation from around the country. If the sky was not completely clear at the time,I doubt anyone could have seen an object travel the entire width of the sky and not be obscured by cloud if it were at a very high altitude.

Sorry I can't throw any more light (no pun intended) on the whole affair, though I find this sort of stuff very interesting.

brianregan09

Have you been back outside tonight to see if maybe it came back , Also what time did this happen ??

neo2010

Nope, haven't been looking since I saw them.

Don't exactly know whether I'd actually like to see something like that again.

RINO87

havent read the rest of this......
was down in limerick last night for a well overdue visit and saw tons of chinese lanters coming from the raheen side of the city. just sayin..
were moving pretty fast too.

Huxley10

Ok, I normally don't post on Boards.ie using my personal account, but I'm going to have to jump into this thread because I am so relieved that someone else has seen this phenomenon. Except i saw it in a different continent 9 years ago!
There were 3 of us present and to this day we have yet to find a suitable explanation.

We were in Las Vegas, it was sometime in July 2011, and were were standing around chatting outside the New York New York Casino, when we noticed up to twenty different people staring and pointing towards to sky. When we looked up we were stunned, there were three lights (objects?) in the sky, two of them were moving from East to West close together and the third light was behind them and it was performing maneuvers that seemed impossible. It would accelerate and zip across the sky, then stop instantly and so on. We were watching them for 15 mins until they disappeared out of our view. I thought at the time that it had something to do with thermals in the desert, but upon hearing your account of it in Limerick, it is remarkably similar.

In terms of the height of the objects (lights?), very difficult to estimate, But certainly not "in space" but within the atmosphere and maybe 1 km up?

bryaner

I'd say it was three Skoda Octavia VRS's..

Huxley10

Huxley10 wrote: »

Ok, I normally don't post on Boards.ie using my personal account, but I'm going to have to jump into this thread because I am so relieved that someone else has seen this phenomenon. Except i saw it in a different continent 9 years ago!
There were 3 of us present and to this day we have yet to find a suitable explanation.

We were in Las Vegas, it was sometime in July 2011, and were were standing around chatting outside the New York New York Casino, when we noticed up to twenty different people staring and pointing towards to sky. When we looked up we were stunned, there were three lights (objects?) in the sky, two of them were moving from East to West close together and the third light was behind them and it was performing maneuvers that seemed impossible. It would accelerate and zip across the sky, then stop instantly and so on. We were watching them for 15 mins until they disappeared out of our view. I thought at the time that it had something to do with thermals in the desert, but upon hearing your account of it in Limerick, it is remarkably similar.

In terms of the height of the objects (lights?), very difficult to estimate, But certainly not "in space" but within the atmosphere and maybe 1 km up?

Meant to type July 2002

Gneez

I was out at about 5am that night and saw some peculiar lights in the sky too, down by Mary I college where the street lights weren't interfering, there was also a lot of regular airtraffic moving about but not in the usual patterns, they seemed to be moving in pairs of two planes and some others I could hear in the other direction that didn't have running lights on.