A scumbag strikes again!

gurramok

sgb wrote: »

The judiciary should be independent and answerable to no one

Ah we see, in their ivory towers. About time they came down to street level and see the suffering of the victims.

jluv

I think things are going to change in this country,possibly a lot slower than we'd like, but get better in the long run. People IMO have woken up over the last while and are starting to question things more. Take the topic we are discussing. That same "scumbag" was around a few years ago but some of us were possibly too busy" investing our money/buying property bla bla bla" That judges decision still would have made us feel the same way back then but we give more emphasis to their responsibility now because we feel they need to "earn" their money. I feel the recession is making us get more real in general. The good thing is that people in high places are now being looked at. Think politics felt that this week..

The_Thing

Good for nothing and allways will be, the best thing for Sweeney is a bullet in his misbegotten brain.

Sitec

Fcuking disgrace, 7 years! In america you would get more for drugs possession in some states!

fcuking bastard should be hung by his bollocks

woodoo

Samich wrote: »

sick of seeing scum bag mentioned in the title of threads, as if they're way above the so called "scumbags". Yes they mightn't be nice people, but jaysus the world is a big place, these things are bound to happen. Not nice obviously and don't want it to happen.

You are not making much sense there.

Yes the world is a big place and bad things happen. Some bad things happen and nothing can be done about that. But when a person deliberately does these things i consider them a scumbag. Bad things like this are because of nasty lowlife scum like Sweeney. He didn't have to swing that hammer. I wouldn't have. It didn't just happen it was made to happen (by a scumbag).

previous user

Scum! He should be shot in the testicles with a flaming crossbow and his seed should be wiped from the earth :mad:

fonecrusher1

This is exactly why we're the laughing stock of the world. The cnut should be in prison for life...oh wait we can't afford that, yeah actually around seven years for murder is all we can afford at the moment.:rolleyes:

aidan24326

Hal Emmerich wrote: »

Who is worse the Judge or the Scumbag that ran off after hitting the clamper??

Poor Man needs 24hr Care provided by his sister, a 10 year old daughter and 70year old Parents back in Romania.

Is their a way to see other cases presided over by this Judge??

You have to remember that a judge is restricted by the maximum sentence legally allowed for any given crime. He can't just dish out whatever harsh sentence he feels like. Though in this case I don't see why he couldn't have handed down the full 10 years without suspending any of them. But 10 was probably the most he could give anyway.

Venom

aidan24326 wrote: »

You have to remember that a judge is restricted by the maximum sentence legally allowed for any given crime. He can't just dish out whatever harsh sentence he feels like. Though in this case I don't see why he couldn't have handed down the full 10 years without suspending any of them. But 10 was probably the most he could give anyway.

But this is only the latest court cases where a pathetic sentence has been handed down for a horrific crime.

Last week it was the scumbag couple who beat up an elderly couple and got a fully suspended sentence.

The week before that is was a drunk driver who drank 10 pints and 8 shorts, drove on the wrong side of the road and ended up killing 2 men and a pregnant woman yet only got 4 years for it.

The list goes on and on

mikeyboy

The law lays down maximum sentences for all crimes. For example, if you are found guilty of violent disorder under Section 15 of the Criminal Justice (Public Order) Act 1994, the maximum sentence you can receive is 10 years imprisonment. When considering what sentence to impose on you, the judge follows a two-step procedure:

1. Decide what the sentence should be in light of the seriousness of the offence.
2. Reduce that sentence in the light of any mitigating or excusing factors given on your behalf.

There are a number of important factors that a judge must have regard to, when sentencing you. It is a matter for your solicitor or barrister, on your behalf, to urge the judge to consider these factors and what weight or importance should be given to each.
When deciding which sentence to impose on you, the judge considers:

• Whether or not you pleaded guilty to the offence
• The facts of the offence - the circumstances in which the offence occurred
• Whether there were any aggravating factors in relation to the offence - such as particularly violent or cruel behaviour
• Your previous criminal record
• Your character
• Your age
• Your family circumstances
• Whether you are employed
• Whether you are sorry for what you have done
• Whether certain types of treatment may help or reform you
• The impact of the offence on the victim
• Any other relevant information about you (for example, if you are in bad health)

The impression I get is that the judge started at the top of the tree (10 years) and then worked his way down taking into account Sweeney's turning himself in, offer of compensation to the victim, anger management and fund raising efforts for the CCR which led to the suspension of the final three years.
Perhaps we need a system where someone who commits such a savage crime and receives a suspended sentence should not be eligible for release until they have served the full custodial term and then have to spend at least part of the suspended time working for victims of similar thuggery, obviously under supervision.
Although the cynic in me doubts if someone with thirty previous convictions is really a candidate for reform.

x in the city

pragmatic1 wrote: »

Theres no real deterrent for crime in this country anymore. Seven years is fcuk all time compared to a lifetime of profound disability.

yet the disabled man still has a higher IQ than dub scumbag

mickydoomsux

How can this happen? Seriously?

People with double figure previous convictions should just be locked up for good in the deepest, darkest hole.

They will never be anything but a problem and it's obviously just a waste of time trying to "rehabilitate" them when they just keep re-offending.

We just seem to wait until they kill or permanently disable someone and then we give them maybe 7 years, if even that. Why even bother convicting people at this stage?

I genuinely thing that if something isn't done soon about sentencing, we're going to see more cases of vigilante justice being perpetrated by people who actually want people punished for their crimes. I'll welcome it.

senordingdong

Which is the bigger scum bag though, him or the judge?

Hal Emmerich

senordingdong wrote: »

Which is the bigger scum bag though, him or the judge?

Tough call when you read what the judge had to say....

Judge Martin Nolan said the facts of the case were “simple and tragic”.

“In a fit of temper he took out a lump hammer and struck the victim on the head,” he said.

He said the “profound injuries” the “unfortunate” Mr Pista suffered were inevitable. “The use of such a savage weapon, when you think of the fragility of the skull”.

“I have used such a tool in the past and today I weighed it in my hand, (when it was presented as an exhibit in the hearing) to reacquaint myself with it. It is an incredibly heavy hammer used in the building industry for crushing stones and splitting bricks. Apply that to any part of the body and it seems inevitable serious injuries would be expected,” Judge Nolan said.

He accepted that Sweeney had his difficulties in the past but added: “like a lot of people”.

“He has a bad temper, like a lot of people, but everyone has to control their temper and he failed miserably on the day in question,” the judge said.

Unfortunate!!!!!!!

WOW! What a choice of word!!!

Article doesn't say what age Pista is but he and his family are probably looking at a 20-30 year sentence....Scumface will probably be out in 3.

I can't say anything else...it'll only have to be deleted.

mikemac

Using a lump hammer to strike someone on the head is nothing less then attempted murder.

Probably said already in the thread but clearly the judge doesn't think so

mcgarry098

biko wrote: »

Should have been charged with attempted murder.

should be charged with murder, because attempted murder is the same idea as murder but just done by poeple who are too thick to do it right.

law is way too easy here for crime, yet for drink drivin its one of the strictest :P

busyliving

Just another reason and justification for corporal punishment...fcuking scum

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitual_offender

This is the simple solution to these problems, not even 3 strikes is needed, 5 strikes would be enough. How many times do we hear of crimes being committed by lads with 20+ convictions?

The current prison population is 4,257. Do you think that's enough? You could probably find 4000 scumbags in Dublin alone who deserve to be prison for one reason or another.

Of course, there's the cost but I think it's money well spent.

HovaBaby

The best thing about communist socities is that these things wouldn't even get a court hearing, the secret police would just show up in the middle of the night and carry them away into the darkness, never to be heard from again.

Pity the rest of communism doesn't work. If only went could find a balance between communism and capitalism.

up for anything

biko wrote: »

Should have been charged with attempted murder.

Attempted murder? He should have been charged with murder. Just because the man is still breathing doesn't mean that his life wasn't taken away from him.

Dave!

up for anything wrote: »

Attempted murder? He should have been charged with murder. Just because the man is still breathing doesn't mean that his life wasn't taken away from him.

Murder? He should have been charged with crimes against humanity! Actually fcuk that - genocide!!


Really though, the justice system in this country is fcuked. Sickening.

bigneacy

Absolutely disgusting - This man should have his assets stripped of him and donated either to the victim or a charity of the victims choice - its a disgrace that he'll be in prison while his gym ticks away nicely for him, nice lump sum for when he gets out. Scumbag.

Freddie59

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Dock their pay.

The Judges or the scumbags?:)

FGR

With overcrowding in prisons this lad will be out in less than eight months guaranteed.

There's no doubt that this country is easy pickings for it's criminal class.

nlgbbbblth

senordingdong wrote: »

Which is the bigger scum bag though, him or the judge?

Sweeney is worse. Have you never heard of personal responsibility?

mikom

A longer sentences for Sweeney would mean tying up valuable prison space that could be used to hold someone who refuses to pay their TV licence fine.
We can't have that.

baltimore sun

Would the man be able to bring a Civil suit against this sweeny chap? Take him for lost earnings & future medical costs etc, or is the matter finished in a legal sense?

aidan24326

baltimore sun wrote: »

Would the man be able to bring a Civil suit against this sweeny chap?

I expect he would yes. Can't see why not.

paddyandy

The Victim is as good as Dead.They don't live long after those sort of injuries and many others are affected too.

senordingdong

aidan24326 wrote: »

I expect he would yes. Can't see why not.

Would it ever be possible to take a case against a judge for their 'judging' of the case?
Not just appealing his judgement that is.

worded

How can we make our voices heard? A very big prison is needed on a remote island.

fran oconnor

worded wrote: »

How can we make our voices heard? A very big prison is needed on a remote island.

Gas the useless turds.

paddyandy

I don't know where this Country is going any more....i don't think anybody really does.20 years with no remission.

senordingdong

worded wrote: »

How can we make our voices heard? A very big prison is needed on a remote island.

And what good is a big prison if sentences are so lenient?

Mr worrier

billymitchell wrote: »

More scumbag stuff.
How these people are allowed on the streets is beyond me

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/pair-avoid-jail-after-attack-that-left-victims-scarred-2913142.html



i was there at the incident, i intervined to help the so called elderly couple who are in there fourties(late) and are known in ballyfermot for fighting with each other after the few(many) drinks they do have in the ballyfermot club, i seen the 3 attackers walking on the oppisite side of the road singing and being a bit load but doing no harm, they were shouting accross the main street to another man who was out of sight to the couple in there 40s i noticed the the man in his 40s walking towards the 3 attackers who had there backs to him ,,they entered the taxi and as the taxi was just about to pull away the man in his 40s opened the door and start punching the women the 2 men with her got out and punched and kicked him a few times while his wife got involved i came from the pub doorway to stop the fight,the couple in there fourties started something they couldn finish,, so i would just like to clear that up that the 3 attackers were been atacked first but yet they get convicted makes me angry that both sides of the story dont get published in the paper only the bit that makes them look like scum

woodoo

I read this one today. What sort of savages do we have in this country. It will be interesting to see what sort of lenient sentence this guys gets. 3 or 4 years no doubt.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/teen-danced-on-boys-head-in-vicious-fourminute-attack-2941039.html

Dudess

Stinicker wrote: »

Clampers are pure scum of the highest order anyway, all it took was one scumbag to lock horns with another and this happened.

I am not condoning walloping any one over the head with a hammer; however as someone who fell victim to clampers this year I don't exactly have much pity for them either at the same time, they know the risks and all it took was one nutjob loose cannon like this guy and this is what happens.

Pathetic. You "fell victim" to clampers of course, as opposed to knowingly parking in a place you shouldn't have.

Interesting how in other contexts you're adamant people should take responsibility for themselves.

:rolleyes:

booboo88

That scum should be locked up and the key thrown away. Just because his girlfriend just dropped her car wherever she felt like.

Dudess

booboo88 wrote: »

That scum should be locked up and the key thrown away. Just because his girlfriend just dropped her car wherever she felt like.

Yep, people who bitch about clampers - doing what they are paid to do, and getting clamped is totally preventable - are **** enough. Actually physically attacking them though...?!

booboo88

Dudess wrote: »

Yep, people who bitch about clampers - doing what they are paid to do, and getting clamped is totally preventable - are **** enough. Actually physically attacking them though...?!

I know its an absolute disgrace, now fair enough you would be pissed off, butto actually attack him? to that extent? he should be made go anger mgt aswell. AND pay for the care this poor man is going to have to recieve for the rest of his life

senordingdong

Aren't clampers (or traffic police) in America armed?

KKkitty

Hope the cnut gets fcuked up the ass so much in prison he never walks again either.

John Doe1

I dont want to sound like a daily mail reader but hang the bastard

Carter P Fly

I'm not so sure, clampers are like soldiers, they take on the job knowing there is a risk of dismemberment and death. You know the likley consequences. What, like clampers realisticly think they are at no point going to be met with violence

psychward

biko wrote: »

Should have been charged with attempted murder.

+1

arghhhh if I read this thread any longer I'm going to get high blood pressure. The state simply doesn't work on behalf of the descendants of the people who fought to establish it and on behalf of those of us who currently keep this small patch of land civilized from day to day. The scum should be sent off to work on chain gangs indefinitely.

Dudess

Carter P Fly wrote: »

I'm not so sure, clampers are like soldiers, they take on the job knowing there is a risk of dismemberment and death.

Confrontation maybe, not anything worse.

You know the likley consequences. What, like clampers realisticly think they are at no point going to be met with violence

Who said they do?

Lol at people who maintain clampers are scum, even though such people put themselves in the position of being clamped.