Unhapy with Higgins as president.

FTS

Is anyone else unhappy with MDH being elected as president?
I dont see the attraction towards him, and never had. I didnt even give him a preference. I thought we were supposed to being opting for a new 'modern' Ireland, and we elect a 70 year old? I honestly think that the image of sending out an older man as the representative isnt the right direction we should be going. But I suppose, the Irish people have spoken, and were each entitled to our own opinion, but I just wanted to see if anyone agreed with me.

tfitzgerald

I did not vote for him, but he is there now let's give him a chance I don't think he will be a bad president he seems to be a good man

mikemac

Age is just a number :cool:

He spent the last month campaigning all over the country and using twitter like a teenager. Then his team took that over
And spent decades as a TD going to all sorts of meetings. Galway West isn't like Dublin or Cork, it's a very large area to cover

He has more energy then people far younger, I don't know what else he can do to prove it

fred funk }{

FTS wrote: »

Is anyone else unhappy with MDH being elected as president?
I dont see the attraction towards him, and never had. I didnt even give him a preference. I thought we were supposed to being opting for a new 'modern' Ireland, and we elect a 70 year old? I honestly think that the image of sending out an older man as the representative isnt the right direction we should be going. But I suppose, the Irish people have spoken, and were each entitled to our own opinion, but I just wanted to see if anyone agreed with me.

Who did you vote for?

Sunnyisland

FTS wrote: »

Is anyone else unhappy with MDH being elected as president?
I don't see the attraction towards him, and never had. I didn't even give him a preference. I thought we were supposed to being opting for a new 'modern' Ireland, and we elect a 70 year old? I honestly think that the image of sending out an older man as the representative isn't the right direction we should be going. But I suppose, the Irish people have spoken, and were each entitled to our own opinion, but I just wanted to see if anyone agreed with me.

Doesn't really matter now does it, Its over and MDH is president and all the people & political parties of Ireland should support & respect him,IMO.

theteal

I agree, it would have been nicer to have a younger more suitable candidate but, eh. . . .there wasn't one!

The best candidate won.

FTS

fred funk }{ wrote: »

Who did you vote for?

I voted Dana Rosemary Scallon number one, Mary Davis number two and Martin McGuinness number 3. They were my favoutites from following the campaigns from the start. I thought the women presidents of the past did a great job representing the country, as they appear warmer and more inviting, and thought Scallon and Davis could continue. And I KNOW Im gonna get all sorts of "why did you vote for dana blah blah blah" but honestly, out of the 7, i thought they were the best.

Le King

What I want to know is who were the 100,000 who voted for Mitchell?

Madness.

Atomicjuicer

I think I was a bit ageist about Higgins myself over the last few weeks.

The truth is, if he appeared younger and had the same accomplishments/drive people would be all over him.

That's the definition of ageism. Oh and I agree that the two Mary's were decent presidents but voting for someone because they're a woman is sexist. Lord knows we've had to put up with the equality issues long enough without people needing to be told this.

Jumpy

FTS wrote: »

I voted Dana Rosemary Scallon number one

I was sort of with you up until this point.

FTS

Atomicjuicer wrote: »

but voting for someone because they're a woman is sexist

I didnt vote for them purley for the fact that they were women, in mye yes they were the best candidates. And I didnt just vote for women, mcguinness got in there too :P

thebman

FTS wrote: »

Is anyone else unhappy with MDH being elected as president?
I dont see the attraction towards him, and never had. I didnt even give him a preference. I thought we were supposed to being opting for a new 'modern' Ireland, and we elect a 70 year old? I honestly think that the image of sending out an older man as the representative isnt the right direction we should be going. But I suppose, the Irish people have spoken, and were each entitled to our own opinion, but I just wanted to see if anyone agreed with me.

That doesn't really make any sense TBH.

What is a modern Ireland and why can't a 70 year old man have modern beliefs?

Sounds completely ageist to me.

jprender

FTS wrote: »

I thought we were supposed to being opting for a new 'modern' Ireland, and we elect a 70 year old?

Is there no place for 70 year olds in your new "modern" Ireland ?

What's the cut-off age ? Just to prepare myself.


And WTF would Dana offer your new "modern" Ireland ? :rolleyes: Seriously, I would love to hear an answer to this. What was your thought process ?

I'm guessing that this was the first ever time you voted, am I right ?

westies4ever

MDH was best of a bad lot. You're going on about 'a modern ireland' and yet you voted for Dana??? Her views and attitudes are totally outdated.

ilovelamp2000

FTS wrote: »

Is anyone else unhappy with MDH being elected as president?
I dont see the attraction towards him, and never had. I didnt even give him a preference. I thought we were supposed to being opting for a new 'modern' Ireland, and we elect a 70 year old? I honestly think that the image of sending out an older man as the representative isnt the right direction we should be going. But I suppose, the Irish people have spoken, and were each entitled to our own opinion, but I just wanted to see if anyone agreed with me.

What exactly was new or modern about any of the candidates ?

Turpentine

FTS wrote: »

I voted Dana Rosemary Scallon number one, Mary Davis number two and Martin McGuinness number 3. They were my favoutites from following the campaigns from the start. I thought the women presidents of the past did a great job representing the country, as they appear warmer and more inviting, and thought Scallon and Davis could continue. And I KNOW Im gonna get all sorts of "why did you vote for dana blah blah blah" but honestly, out of the 7, i thought they were the best.

You only voted for Scallon and Davis because they were women? A tad sexist, no?

fred funk }{

FTS wrote: »

I voted Dana Rosemary Scallon number one, Mary Davis number two and Martin McGuinness number 3. They were my favoutites from following the campaigns from the start. I thought the women presidents of the past did a great job representing the country, as they appear warmer and more inviting, and thought Scallon and Davis could continue. And I KNOW Im gonna get all sorts of "why did you vote for dana blah blah blah" but honestly, out of the 7, i thought they were the best.

Hang on a minute. You think M D Higgins is too old and doesn't represent modern Ireland (whatever that means) but Scallon does?

Ridiculous thread.

superstoner90

jprender wrote: »

Is there no place for 70 year olds in your new "modern" Ireland ?

What's the cut-off age ? Just to prepare myself.


And WTF would Dana offer your new "modern" Ireland ? :rolleyes: Seriously, I would love to hear an answer to this. What was your thought process ?

I'm guessing that this was the first ever time you voted, am I right ?

she could offer ireland "all kinds of everything"

MagicMarker

FTS wrote: »

I thought we were supposed to being opting for a new 'modern' Ireland

FTS wrote: »

I voted Dana Rosemary Scallon number one

Does not compute.

jprender

superstoner90 wrote: »

she could offer ireland "all kinds of everything"

"that remind me of HUGH ! "

Michael D last year. He's far from a spent force :cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOxKnsT-XZg

superstoner90

jprender wrote: »

"that remind me of HUGH ! "

hugh who?

Drumpot

I think Higgins represents what people wAnt Ireland to be associated with. Wisdom, composure and somebody you feel comfortable dealing with.

In truth Gallagher was a far better representation of what we are about. Putting economy before people, not letting the truth get in way of your image and then ultimately crucifying a person who reflects the majority of the electorate presuming that this means weve learned our lesson.

At least voting anybody but FF gave us a real change!! No no, wait a minute!

deman

The OP is looking for a modern Ireland and votes for Dana!??

UDP

FTS wrote: »

I thought we were supposed to being opting for a new 'modern' Ireland, and we elect a 70 year old? I honestly think that the image of sending out an older man as the representative isnt the right direction we should be going.

Yes, because voting for a religious nut is opting for a new 'modern' Ireland - it would be more like moving us back to the 1950's. This thread and your voting choices sound ageist and sexist to me. Thank zeus this thinking is now a minority in 'modern' Ireland.

jprender

superstoner90 wrote: »

hugh who?

Hugh Morgan (Morgan Fuels).

Dammit, i thought that was funny

superstoner90

deman wrote: »

The OP is looking for a modern Ireland and votes for Dana!??

thats like something mr. bean would do

Kadongy

FTS wrote: »

I voted Dana Rosemary Scallon number one, Mary Davis number two and Martin McGuinness number 3. They were my favoutites from following the campaigns from the start. I thought the women presidents of the past did a great job representing the country, as they appear warmer and more inviting, and thought Scallon and Davis could continue. And I KNOW Im gonna get all sorts of "why did you vote for dana blah blah blah" but honestly, out of the 7, i thought they were the best.

Really, I'd have had serious issues if Dana or McGuinness got in. Honestly, I think it's disgraceful the number of votes the latter got.
Higgins seems grand.

superstoner90

jprender wrote: »

Hugh Morgan (Morgan Fuels).

Dammit, i thought that was funny

i kinda thougt you ment hugh grant

Ellis Dee

There's a lot of ageism on this thread. Michael D is as sharp as a razor and very energetic, whereas some people not well out of their twenties have lost what little bit of momentum they ever had.:D

This lady, Mae West, had a mirror on her bedroom ceiling when she was in her eighties. As she explained. "I still like to know how I'm doin'.";)

Give Michael D a while to see how he's doing before you start beefing about him.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Turpentine

jprender wrote: »

Hugh Morgan (Morgan Fuels).

Dammit, i thought that was funny

superstoner90 wrote: »

i kinda thougt you ment hugh grant

I thought he meant that lad from the Fun Loving Criminals.

jprender

Dana, Hugh Grant, and the Fun Loving Criminals.

How come that never came out on Frontline ?

superstoner90

Turpentine wrote: »

I thought he meant that lad from the Fun Loving Criminals.

LOL

Turpentine

jprender wrote: »

Dana, Hugh Grant, and the Fun Loving Criminals.

How come that never came out on Frontline ?

They're probably saving the publicity to help elevate a sleazy re-sexed mix of "All Kinds of Everything" to Christmas No.1 in 2014.

vampire of kilmainham

david norris and michael d were my choices in my opinion the best of a crappy lot

Lockstep

You condemn Higgins for not representing a modern Ireland and vote for Dana?

Dear lord.

Sierra Oscar

I gave Gallagher my number one, but I had little problem giving Higgins my second preference.

He is a safe pair of hands and will represent us well.

Jonnie.B

FTS wrote: »

Is anyone else unhappy with MDH being elected as president?
I dont see the attraction towards him, and never had. I didnt even give him a preference. I thought we were supposed to being opting for a new 'modern' Ireland, and we elect a 70 year old? I honestly think that the image of sending out an older man as the representative isnt the right direction we should be going. But I suppose, the Irish people have spoken, and were each entitled to our own opinion, but I just wanted to see if anyone agreed with me.

Higgins was involved in nearly all major social change in Ireland in recent history, so who better to represent a modern Ireland.

superstoner90

this tread is going no where , i really dont see any point in keeping it open

Liam Byrne

However unhapy [sic] the OP is re Higgins, it can't surpass the equivalent disgust and embarrassment that I would feel had McGuinness, Gallagher or Norris gotten elected.

Kadongy

superstoner90 wrote: »

this tread is going no where , i really dont see any point in keeping it open

one of those posts which momentarily confuse me when I realise that the thread is still open and the poster isn't a moderator.
wannabe mods.

superstoner90

Liam Byrne wrote: »

However unhapy [sic] the OP is re Higgins, it can't surpass the equivalent disgust and embarrassment that I would feel had McGuinness, Gallagher or Norris gotten elected.

true that

superstoner90

Kadongy wrote: »

one of those posts which momentarily confuse me when I realise that the thread is still open and the poster isn't a moderator.
wannabe mods.

i know well i would love to have the power to close treads and ban people , sure thats way better than being god

Kadongy

superstoner90 wrote: »

i know well i would love to have the power to close treads and ban people , sure thats way better than being god

see what you did? Now everyone has stopped posting :pac:

darkman2

Agree completely OP (except for Dana - not the most progressive vote there). I think people will only realise it when he has to meet another head of state. It's entirely the wrong image.


Also he is very small for 70 years of age. Given the fact as you get older at that age you more and more rapidly get smaller what size will he be in 2 or 3 years time!:eek: It's a silly image all together.

But then the country have voted for that image.

Kadongy

darkman2 wrote: »

Agree completely OP (except for Dana - not the most progressive vote there). I think people will only realise it when he has to meet another head of state. It's entirely the wrong image.


Also he is very small for 70 years of age. Given the fact as you get older at that age you more and more rapidly get smaller what size will he be in 2 or 3 years time! It's a silly image all together.

But then the country have voted for that image.

Alternative images include a catholic extremist who pretends people are trying to kill her, a guy who killed lots of innocent people, and a guy who has weird views on pederastery and has been shown to have misused his position in related matters.

I have no idea how you can make this argument about the image portrayed of Ireland while implying McGuinness would have been a good choice. What image would that give to the UK and to the USA (with their anti-terrorism stance), never mind any other countries? And relations with those two countries are particularly important for Ireland.

county man

darkman2 wrote: »

Agree completely OP (except for Dana - not the most progressive vote there). I think people will only realise it when he has to meet another head of state. It's entirely the wrong image.


Also he is very small for 70 years of age. Given the fact as you get older at that age you more and more rapidly get smaller what size will he be in 2 or 3 years time!:eek: It's a silly image all together.

But then the country have voted for that image.

http://i.imgur.com/DveKw.jpg

PoleStar

FTS wrote: »

I didnt vote for them purley for the fact that they were women, in mye yes they were the best candidates. And I didnt just vote for women, mcguinness got in there too :P

But your first 2 preferences WERE women, and you just said this:

FTS wrote: »

I voted Dana Rosemary Scallon number one, Mary Davis number two and Martin McGuinness number 3. They were my favoutites from following the campaigns from the start. I thought the women presidents of the past did a great job representing the country, as they appear warmer and more inviting, and thought Scallon and Davis could continue

So actually, you have stated that you voted for them because they were women, and yes, that is sexist. Dana represents the elderly right wing Christian view, as for Davis, her only marketable quality on every interview seemed to be that she was a big player in the special olympics (I think she mustn't have realised that it was the role of president on offer). As for your token male vote, McGuinness is someone who admits he was a terrorist, and couldn't bring himself to call the killing of innocents by the IRA "murder" whenever interviewed or even directly asked to (he just dodged the question).

foggy_lad

FTS wrote: »

I didnt vote for them purley for the fact that they were women, in mye yes they were the best candidates. And I didnt just vote for women, mcguinness got in there too :P

A religious fanatic whose only real claim to fame was when she was used donkeys years ago to win a song contest with the Awh factor, a money and expenses grabbing quango queen who sat on boards of several state and semi state organisations she knew nothing about and another religious terrorist who was responsible for murdering people.

Ellis Dee wrote: »

There's a lot of ageism on this thread. Michael D is as sharp as a razor and very energetic, whereas some people not well out of their twenties have lost what little bit of momentum they ever had.:D

This lady, Mae West, had a mirror on her bedroom ceiling when she was in her eighties. As she explained. "I still like to know how I'm doin'.";)

Give Michael D a while to see how he's doing before you start beefing about him.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Michael D has already put this picture on the bedroom ceiling in the Áras:D

Ozymandius2011

I'm disappointed because I feel the media brainwashed people into voting for him by not subjecting him to the scrutiny of the rest of the candidates. They set out to assassinate the character of all the others. I wanted a debate on policy. What we got instead was the worst brand of LBJ "Let him deny it" politics. The dirtiest election in the history of the State.

Bristolian

I agree with what many people have said on these boards that we could have done with a younger president but I think MDH will do okay as long as he remains healthy and energetic. Gallagher's actual vote is quite remarkable considering all the negativity and dirty tricks that were aimed at him during the campaign. It show's that he was actually the best candidate. But for Sinn Fein and their lies, and Pat Kenny and his unethical and dishonest intervention on the Frontline debate, he would have been elected.

The focus after this must be directed at Sinn Fein - on what they believe and what they have done to drag our country through the mud for forty years. It must also be directed at RTE and their biased approach. There is no way a dubious tweet would have been used on the BBC, or any other worthwhile media outlet, to bring a good candidate down. Sean did not do anything wrong except having a lack political experience and nous which would have seen him through the debate safely. He handled the ambush badly that's for sure.

The one comfort I take today is that Sean still trounced MMcG and Sinn Fein were eliminated. Hopefully the Irish people will never let this dark force anywhere near power in this country. At times of economic stress and suffering unscrupulous organisations like SF can rise and threaten democracy so we need to be very vigilant.