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Fine Gael: Another unfair party?

  • 29-10-2011 12:55pm
    #1
    liammur
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭


    I'm beginning to think FG are a very unfair party. Looking at the recent way they dealt with bank shareholders. They gave AIB shareholders a vastly superior offer to IL&P despite AIB costing the state in the region of €20bln. I've tried contacting FG over this and no response.

    You'd think with FF in the doldrums they'd go about things in a different manner.


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  • #2
    Manach
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    My understanding is currently FG are in a coalition with the Labour party - have you tried contacting them as well?


  • #3
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    And now paying for gays campaign costs:rolleyes: Yeah they sound like ffail team alright.
    Isnt it great how people keep voting these losers in to power.:D:D


  • #4
    liammur
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    Manach wrote: »
    My understanding is currently FG are in a coalition with the Labour party - have you tried contacting them as well?

    Fair point, altho it's minister for finance who's responsible in this case. And I suppose he wasn't very fair either when dealing with the poor woman from Donegal years ago.


  • #5
    doc_17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,976 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Fine Gael = Finna Fail lite. Both parties centre right Irish political parties so there won't be much difference in them. Pity it's Gilmore in charge of Labour instead of Rabbite


  • #6
    laoch na mona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    FG and FF are basically the same party


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  • #7
    pragmatic1
    Registered Users Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    laoch na mona wrote: »
    FG and FF are basically the same party
    Nah not really. I dont agree with FG's politics but they're nowhere near as bad as FF, no matter how many FF people want to believe that.


  • #8
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Unhappy with how they helped shareholders OP?

    Would have thought FG would be the party for you

    After all Michael Noonan wanted to spend money on compensating Eircom investors.
    Michael Noonan said today that the cost of his proposal to allow small investors to offset their Eircom losses against taxable income would be €80m.
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2002/0121/finegael.html

    Fine Gael just love compensation


  • #9
    liammur
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    mikemac wrote: »
    Unhappy with how they helped shareholders OP?

    Would have thought FG would be the party for you

    After all Michael Noonan wanted to spend money on compensating Eircom investors.


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2002/0121/finegael.html

    Fine Gael just love compensation

    Maybe he had a lot of Eircom shares himself? Now, they certainly gave AIB shareholders a good deal too, but I suspect there are irregularities with the way they handled IL&P, for instance, who leaked to the media that it was going to be nationalised before the results of the stress tests were carried out, leading to a farcical suspension? I would like to see an investigation into this.


  • #10
    tim_holsters
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭tim_holsters


    Of course FG are an "unfair" party. They're as culpable as FF and Lab in creating this kleptocracy which we're suffering under for now and ever more.

    Speaking about unfairness I think basically we've got a caste system in Ireland now by that I mean there's the people in the public sector and then there's everyone else.


  • #11
    walrusgumble
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,062 ✭✭✭walrusgumble


    caseyann wrote: »
    And now paying for gays campaign costs:rolleyes: Yeah they sound like ffail team alright.
    Isnt it great how people keep voting these losers in to power.:D:D
    What are you on about? That is the benefit of being a.member of a political party.if Michael d had done terrible, labour would have footed his Bill.


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  • #12
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    walrusgumble wrote: »
    What are you on about? That is the benefit of being a.member of a political party.if Michael d had done terrible, labour would have footed his Bill.

    The others are not having their bill footed by anyone.
    Is there nothing some of you Irish wont swallow and accept from cronyism of Irish government.:eek::( If Martin or Michael had their bill footed by their parties i would be saying the same and hypocrites.
    This country has no hope with the likes of this attitude:D


  • #13
    anymore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭anymore


    tim_holsters wrote: »
    Of course FG are an "unfair" party. They're as culpable as FF and Lab in creating this kleptocracy which we're suffering under for now and ever more.

    Speaking about unfairness I think basically we've got a caste system in Ireland now by that I mean there's the people in the public sector and then there's everyone else.
    Very glad to see your comment re caste system. I was referring to this as evidence of a ' Two State ireland' but i suspect your use of the term ' caste' is even more appropriate.


  • #14
    dsmythy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,521 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    caseyann wrote: »
    The others are not having their bill footed by anyone.
    Is there nothing some of you Irish wont swallow and accept from cronyism of Irish government.:eek::( If Martin or Michael had their bill footed by their parties i would be saying the same and hypocrites.
    This country has no hope with the likes of this attitude:D

    This is standard practice across the world. If Obama loses do you think he stumps up his presidential money himself?


  • #15
    anymore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭anymore


    mikemac wrote: »
    Unhappy with how they helped shareholders OP?

    Would have thought FG would be the party for you

    After all Michael Noonan wanted to spend money on compensating Eircom investors.


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2002/0121/finegael.html

    Fine Gael just love compensation
    FF were happy to allow rich BES investors to have tiher investments subsidised by the taxpayer ! Look at one of SG's companies which benefitted from this scheme.


  • #16
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    dsmythy wrote: »
    This is standard practice across the world. If Obama loses do you think he stumps up his presidential money himself?
    Yeah he should gets paid enough so does the other criminals.


  • #17
    steelcityblues
    Registered Users Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭steelcityblues


    doc_17 wrote: »
    Fine Gael = Finna Fail lite. Both parties centre right Irish political parties so there won't be much difference in them. Pity it's Gilmore in charge of Labour instead of Rabbite

    Rabbitte is another ex stickie. He is no different in general to Gilmore.

    Certainly, no more likeable.


  • #18
    walrusgumble
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,062 ✭✭✭walrusgumble


    caseyann wrote: »
    The others are not having their bill footed by anyone.
    Is there nothing some of you Irish wont swallow and accept from cronyism of Irish government.:eek::( If Martin or Michael had their bill footed by their parties i would be saying the same and hypocrites.
    This country has no hope with the likes of this attitude:D

    Why? A party has its own funds. Every organisation has its own funds. Funds raised via, well, you know, Galway tent etc cough. FG are no different really either, ask Loose Lips Creighton. Labour use to / still get their funding from Trade Unions. That is the realisation of politics or any public representative group, what rock have you just come out of?

    You were very quite a couple of years ago. I don't recall you making much comment 4-5 years ago on this site or others, when the crap was hitting the fan.


    Why are they hypocrites? THey are representing a political party. You think Michael D would have been able to pay for all those posters , including a newer version with tricolour in the background, without Labour funding?

    "Croynisim"? I doubt Michael D would have had the appetite to represent us without help from Labour. Cars, tyres, food, shoes, posters, leaflets, advertising, postage etc don't come for free you know.

    Norris, will have had his supporters foot up some of the money and his own dosh. It is known in many circles that Davis had assistance from people like Dennis O'Brien (so what by they way). As for Dana, god knows what right wing lunatic group helped her in funding.

    You are not stupid enough to think McGuinness all / most funding came out of his own pocket are you?

    It does sound a bit unfair to loose one's expenses, as it discourages the ordinary person of little money if they don't meet a quota but its intended to remove all frivolous candidates who never had a hope and hell in winning.

    Come to think of it though, there is one hack , Benny Cooney, from Westmeath, who certainty does not have much money if any at all, but who has run for several constituencies for Dail Eireann in every election, even two in one election simultaneously. THis year West Dublin. Never even gets 200 votes on each occasion. How is he getting on the candidate ticket? (Rules are different of course)


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