Opinion on this build

Nibs05 · 29-10-2011 1:28pm #1

Genghiz Cohen · 29-10-2011 2:27pm

Hold on for the Gurus to show up about that processor.
What graphics card are you using?

If I were buying a motherboard today, I'd get one with USB 3.0. Is there any reason you picked that one?

Do you need the cooler? Are you going overclocking your CPU?
For like €40 more you could get the 2500k which gets to about 4.3/4.4 GHz on standard voltage.

Also consider looking for a 7200RPM HDD

deconduo · 29-10-2011 2:31pm

Not really :P

-Old CPU and motherboard, get sandy bridge instead. Either i5-2400 + H61 motherboard or i5-2500k + P67 motherboard if you want to overclock.

-RAM is out of stock

-Green hard drive for boot. You want a faster drive, either a 7200rpm or an SSD.

-Massively overpriced PSU. The XFX 650W is almost half the price and will be just as good basically.

-No graphics card. Why are you getting a 650W PSU if you don't have a graphics card :P

-Case is ok, but there are better choices.

Nibs05 · 29-10-2011 2:37pm

Yea I forgot about graphics, looking 2gb graphics

What would you recommend for €650 inc win 7

Genghiz Cohen · 29-10-2011 6:10pm

Nibs05 wrote: »

Yea I forgot about graphics, looking 2gb graphics

What would you recommend for €650 inc win 7

Why 2GB?
You running huge resolutions?

marco_polo · 29-10-2011 6:40pm

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Nibs05 wrote: »

Yea I forgot about graphics, looking 2gb graphics

What would you recommend for €650 inc win 7

Why 2GB?
You running huge resolutions?

Might be no harm I've seen reports of vram usage of over 1gb for a fully maxed out hd texture patched crysis 2 and battlefield 3 even at fairly moderate resolutions like 1920x1200.

Nibs05 · 29-10-2011 8:48pm

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Why 2GB?
You running huge resolutions?

I'm playing it safe with a 2gb graphics card, I want to run hi res simulaters and feel that the 2gb will help run these smoothly. Also future prof aswell so I don't come back in a few years needing upgrades.

Genghiz Cohen · 29-10-2011 9:41pm

Nibs05 wrote: »

I'm playing it safe with a 2gb graphics card, I want to run hi res simulaters and feel that the 2gb will help run these smoothly. Also future prof aswell so I don't come back in a few years needing upgrades.

Its the memory and clock speed on the card that affects the performance the most.
The memory amount mostly relates to the screen resolution you are using.
By all means get the 2 gig, but be sure to get at least DDR5 memory with a 1000MHz clock memory and at the very least 800Mhz core clock speed.

thysol · 29-10-2011 10:06pm

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Its the memory and clock speed on the card that affects the performance the most.

Sorry, but that is Bull****. According to your logic the Geforce GTX 560 Ti with with 822MHz would be faster than a Geforce GTX 570 with 732MHz.:rolleyes:

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

The memory amount mostly relates to the screen resolution you are using.

Yeah, your general point is right. There are a lot of cards that are slower with 2GB than other cards with 1GB.

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

By all means get the 2 gig, but be sure to get at least DDR5 memory with a 1000MHz clock memory and at the very least 800Mhz core clock speed.

Interesting recommendation, the fastest single-GPU atm (Geforce GTX 580) has 772MHz core clock, so according to your logic he shouldn't get it just because it doesn't have >800MHz core clock. Hmm, what GPU should he get if the best isn't good enough?:rolleyes: Oh yeah, a slower one because it has a higher core clock.:rolleyes:

@Thread Starter
Why buy that old CPU? Get Sandy Bridge and 1155 board.

Nibs05 · 29-10-2011 10:11pm

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Its the memory and clock speed on the card that affects the performance the most.
The memory amount mostly relates to the screen resolution you are using.
By all means get the 2 gig, but be sure to get at least DDR5 memory with a 1000MHz clock memory and at the very least 800Mhz core clock speed.

Yea I looking at this today, I think it fits my needs.

http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=52416&agid=1156

thysol · 29-10-2011 10:14pm

Nibs05 wrote: »

Yea I looking at this today, I think it fits my needs.

http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=52416&agid=1156

Way too dear. For the same money you get a considerably faster Geforce GTX 560 Ti with 1GB of memory:

http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43719&agid=707&pvid=4n0aaosoh_gud2y0qu&ref=13&lb

Genghiz Cohen · 29-10-2011 11:40pm

Nice attitude thysol.

What's your maximum price OP?

Your looking at about €250 + Shipping for a 2GB 560 Ti in Ireland.
Hardwareversand have them for about €220 but they are out of stock.

Not many 2GB cards around really. You could be better off just looking down this list and picking the first card that you can afford.
Do a little digging obviously, pretty much Google "<Card Name> benchmarks" and see what you get.

Nibs05 · 29-10-2011 11:50pm

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Nice attitude thysol.

What's your maximum price OP?

Your looking at about €250 + Shipping for a 2GB 560 Ti in Ireland.
Hardwareversand have them for about €220 but they are out of stock.

Not many 2GB cards around really. You could be better off just looking down this list and picking the first card that you can afford.
Do a little digging obviously, pretty much Google "<Card Name> benchmarks" and see what you get.

Thanks for advice but I will get the Gtx 560 ti
I will do a new list tommorow after the advice and help from the posters.

thysol · 29-10-2011 11:57pm

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Nice attitude thysol.

What's your maximum price OP?

Your looking at about €250 + Shipping for a 2GB 560 Ti in Ireland.
Hardwareversand have them for about €220 but they are out of stock.

Not many 2GB cards around really. You could be better off just looking down this list and picking the first card that you can afford.
Do a little digging obviously, pretty much Google "<Card Name> benchmarks" and see what you get.

Well, the GTX 560 Ti 1GB is about 10-20% faster than the GTX 560 2GB. So why get the 2GB version of GTX 560?

Nibs05 wrote: »

Thanks for advice but I will get the Gtx 560 ti
I will do a new list tommorow after the advice and help from the posters.

Good choice.

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Nice attitude thysol.

What do you expect? You posted something that was to 90% wrong.

Tea_Bag · 30-10-2011 3:39am

HD6950 2GB anyone?

- performance ~560Ti and twice the Vram for the same price.

thysol · 30-10-2011 11:35am

Tea_Bag wrote: »

HD6950 2GB anyone?

- performance ~560Ti and twice the Vram for the same price.

Yeah, would be a an "ok" choice, and the Thread starter would have his 2GB VRAM if he so badly needs it.

Nibs05 · 30-10-2011 1:22pm

Thanks for advice and comments, I made a new list and hopefully a nice machine.

Case:
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=49181&agid=631

PSU:
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39875&agid=1629

Motherboard:
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50902&agid=1601

Processor:
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41224&agid=1617

Graphics:
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43719&agid=707

RAM:
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=38052&agid=1192

HDD:
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39650&agid=689

(edit 2500k changed)

Monotype · 30-10-2011 2:05pm

2500K is what you want.

Edit: $"^T*$%£$ :mad:
These hard drive prices are pissing me off. It's very hard to recommend any drive now.

Edit 2: How about getting a 128GB SSD?
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46110

HDD prices should come down again in a few months. 128GB isn't a lot by today's standards if you're installing a load of games but it should be okay with some management.

Genghiz Cohen · 30-10-2011 6:10pm

thysol wrote: »

What do you expect?

Courtesy.

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