Heineken Cup - General Discussion Thread

vienne86

Anyone know what time the draw takes place tomorrow?

circos

vienne86 wrote: »

Anyone know what time the draw takes place tomorrow?

5:25pm tomorrow for the SF draw

.ak

Such a pity that Ulster didn't win that game - we could possibly looking at 3 Irish teams in the semi's then.

SARZY

cgpg5 wrote: »

Munster v Ulster
Leinster v Edin
Sarries v Toulouse
Cardiff v Clermont

Ulster, Leinster, Sarries and Clermont for semis I feel, although there is 3 very intriguing games there potentially.

Thats a laugh really.

Just like Rob Kerney who claimed top seed in his after match interview, you have a serious case of inferiority, writing Munster off in your own mind wont change the facts.

Munster will give you much more anguish before this is over.

Tox56

SARZY wrote: »

Thats a laugh really.

Just like Rob Kerney who claimed top seed in his after match interview, you have a serious case of inferiority, writing Munster off in your own mind wont change the facts.

Munster will give you much more anguish before this is over.

I think you are seriously underestimating Ulster if you think its a "laugh" that they could win.

cgpg5

SARZY wrote: »

Thats a laugh really.

Just like Rob Kerney who claimed top seed in his after match interview, you have a serious case of inferiority, writing Munster off in your own mind wont change the facts.

Munster will give you much more anguish before this is over.

What's wrong am I not allowed to say what I feel, and that is that Ulster will win? You haven't taken exception to any of the other predictions. So basically if you think Ulster will win you are wrong in your mind?

sock puppet

Lol some Munster fans are obviously back early from the pub.

cgpg5

bleg wrote: »

Keep writing Munster off. We love it.:)

Have nothing against them I'm just tipping Ulster to win... If Ulster perform like they did last week and today Munster will be under pressure.

CIARAN_BOYLE

cgpg5 wrote: »

Have nothing against them I'm just tipping Ulster to win... If Ulster perform like they did last week and today Munster will be under pressure.

and if Munster play like they did today it will be some game that I am really looking forward to.

I'm kinda disappointed that Ulster and Munster are meeting because if they weren't I'd bet on both of them against a lot of teams still in the competition. That said I'm hoping for a cracker of a game.

kildarecommuter

Munster v Ulster should be a cracker of a game. Good luck to both teams, Cmon LEINSTER!

bleg

cgpg5 wrote: »

Have nothing against them I'm just tipping Ulster to win... If Ulster perform like they did last week and today Munster will be under pressure.

Traditionally 1/4 of the quarter finals are won by the away team. I don't see Munster losing at TP. Toulouse are more likely to win away.

shuffol

Did the lads on TG4 just predict a Munster v. Toulouse QF?

Risteard

shuffol wrote: »

Did the lads on TG4 just predict a Munster v. Toulouse QF?

Obviously a mistake. Can't happen.

shuffol

They put a quarter final lineup caption up on screen, had Munster v. Toulouse and Cardiff v. Edinburgh, cant remember the others, cant beleive that they wouldnt know what the score is with the seedings

cgpg5

bleg wrote: »

Traditionally 1/4 of the quarter finals are won by the away team. I don't see Munster losing at TP. Toulouse are more likely to win away.

Ulster well used to Thomond, I'll put it this way if I were you I'd be hoping for an upset in Edinburgh tomorrow because if Munster get the Scots its an easy path to the semi imo

bleg

cgpg5 wrote: »

Ulster well used to Thomond, I'll put it this way if I were you I'd be hoping for an upset in Edinburgh tomorrow because if Munster get the Scots its an easy path to the semi imo

I'd prefer a hard 1/4 final than an easy one. IMO it was the win against Quins that was the making of Leinster in 2009.


By the way, Bookies agree with me.

twinytwo

cgpg5 wrote: »

Ulster well used to Thomond, I'll put it this way if I were you I'd be hoping for an upset in Edinburgh tomorrow because if Munster get the Scots its an easy path to the semi imo

rabo v hc... two very very different things... munster are a differnt kind of beast.

cgpg5

bleg wrote: »

I'd prefer a hard 1/4 final than an easy one. IMO it was the win against Quins that was the making of Leinster in 2009.


By the way, Bookies agree with me.

You're right so, apologies.

cgpg5

twinytwo wrote: »

rabo v hc... two very very different things... munster are a differnt kind of beast.

Don't mean to be smart but haven't Ulster been far better in the HC this year than the Rabo aswell?

Look it'll obviously be very close and tbh I've no real preference I'm just hoping for a cracking game really.

twinytwo

cgpg5 wrote: »

Don't mean to be smart but haven't Ulster been far better in the HC this year than the Rabo aswell?

Look it'll obviously be very close and tbh I've no real preference I'm just hoping for a cracking game really.

I mean in terms of playing munster in the HC in Thomond compared to playing them there in the Rabo.... completly different

danthefan

I think the ref will play a role. If it's Owens Ulster can forget it. Would have to back Munster regardless.

bleg

It would be a tough match (if it transpires) but to write Munster off already is absolutely and utterly ridiculous considering the stubborn form they're in, not to mention the freshness the youngsters have brought to the party.

CIARAN_BOYLE

shuffol wrote: »

They put a quarter final lineup caption up on screen, had Munster v. Toulouse and Cardiff v. Edinburgh, cant remember the others, cant beleive that they wouldnt know what the score is with the seedings

They forgot that runner ups are seeded 7th and 8th and just converted points into seedings. A lot of people on different forums tried the same thing but you expect a level of professionalism from a tv station.

cgpg5

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

They forgot that runner ups are seeded 7th and 8th and just converted points into seedings. A lot of people on different forums tried the same thing but you expect a level of professionalism from a tv station.

Shocking mistake to make on a Heineken Cup highlights programme on tv surely someone in the studio should have realised it, there'll be plenty of red faces!

GerM

bleg wrote: »

It would be a tough match (if it transpires) but to write Munster off already is absolutely and utterly ridiculous

Agreed, but is anyone? Munster would be significant favourites for that fixture.

bleg

GerM wrote: »

Agreed, but is anyone? Munster would be significant favourites for that fixture.

Yup, we already had one poster confidently state that Ulster will be in the semis.

cgpg5

bleg wrote: »

Yup, we already had one poster confidently state that Ulster will be in the semis.

Haha its a prediction I didn't exactly write them off. Honestly ye'd swear I went for Edinburgh to win it out or something, predicting Ulster to win is hardly that drastic a prediction. Of course, I wouldn't be shocked if Munster won though, I'm just siding with Ulster.

Tox56

bleg wrote: »

Yup, we already had one poster confidently state that Ulster will be in the semis.

I think you're taking this a bit seriously. It was his opinion Ulster would win, is that not allowed?

bleg

Fair enough. Apologies lads.

Fireball07

I'd much prefer Edinburgh to Ulster but you'd have to think Munster would be favourites at home.

I like being pessimistic when it comes to Munster because if people write them off they really do come out all guns blazing. Look at the performance day, most people on here had them down as being lucky to get a losing bonus. They came with a massive intensity and got the backs moving at last.


I think it's a pity people won't be writing them off against Ulster. Still think they'll probably win it, but the performance won't be as good imo.

Podge_irl

bleg wrote: »

It would be a tough match (if it transpires) but to write Munster off already is absolutely and utterly ridiculous considering the stubborn form they're in, not to mention the freshness the youngsters have brought to the party.

Saying you think the opposition will win is not writing Munster off. They could view it as a 51/49 game but have to pick a winner. Such is the nature of predictions.

funky penguin

It's definitely the showpiece QF.

Ulster, who massacred Leicester, came within an inch of upsetting Clermont and finally look like a European force again.

Munster, with tonnes of HEC experience and are unbeaten so far....as well as the home advantage.

I'm going to say right now, Munster. But a lot can happen in the interm.

vienne86

Munster v Ulster will be a cracking match. It is such a pity that they are meeting in the quarters.

durkadurka

Yez are talking about it as if it's a fact. Have you learned nothing from the last few days?

There might be another surprise yet

Clareman

I'd much prefer to be playing Edinburgh than Ulster, but as top seeds you can't be complaining and no team will look forward to coming to TP in a quarter final, as has been mentioned before, it's a huge difference between a Rabo and a HEC game in TP. The 1 thing though is that the IRFU may consider moving the quarter to the Aviva if they think they'd fill it

durkadurka

Clareman wrote: »

I'd much prefer to be playing Edinburgh than Ulster, but as top seeds you can't be complaining and no team will look forward to coming to TP in a quarter final, as has been mentioned before, it's a huge difference between a Rabo and a HEC game in TP. The 1 thing though is that the IRFU may consider moving the quarter to the Aviva if they think they'd fill it

It's up to Munster and I'd be amazed if they did.

It'll be in thomond.

irishbucsfan

I'd favour Munster in Thomond Park, but Ulster in a neutral venue. Can't see it being anywhere other than Thomond Park.

Either way I think it would be the best quarter final. Ulster weren't great in Welford Road though...

phog

Clareman wrote: »

I'd much prefer to be playing Edinburgh than Ulster, but as top seeds you can't be complaining and no team will look forward to coming to TP in a quarter final, as has been mentioned before, it's a huge difference between a Rabo and a HEC game in TP. The 1 thing though is that the IRFU may consider moving the quarter to the Aviva if they think they'd fill it

Up to Munster and from what I remember they annouced a couple of years abck that they'd keep their home QFs to Thomond, hope they do.

danthefan

I'd imagine they'd have to think hard about turning down all that revenue though. They could double what they'd make from Thomond.

[Jackass]

Oh, the Munster arrogance is back, this should be fun!

greendom

danthefan wrote: »

I'd imagine they'd have to think hard about turning down all that revenue though. They could double what they'd make from Thomond.

I suppose it depends on the opposition. If playing in a neutral venue jeopardises their chance of a semi or final then the potential revenue gained won't come into it.

cgpg5

greendom wrote: »

I suppose it depends on the opposition. If playing in a neutral venue jeopardises their chance of a semi or final then the potential revenue gained won't come into it.

If its Edinburgh it'll surely be played in Thomond, I think the poster was referring to the fact that if its (and most likely it will be) Ulster, that it could potentially fill out the Aviva due to massive Ulster support also. Couldn't see Edinburgh bringing many.

Benny Cake

Zero chance they'll move the game from Thomond. No point bursting your bollix to get a home draw and then give away your advantage...

castie

[Jackass] wrote: »

Oh, the Munster arrogance is back, this should be fun!

Arrogance thinking that Munster can beat teams at TP? Hardly...

cgpg5

Benny Cake wrote: »

Zero chance they'll move the game from Thomond. No point bursting your bollix to get a home draw and then give away your advantage...

Especially as Thomond has that special feel to it and the atmosphere that it brings, there's no other place like it.

irishbucsfan

cgpg5 wrote: »

Benny Cake wrote: »

Zero chance they'll move the game from Thomond. No point bursting your bollix to get a home draw and then give away your advantage...

Especially as Thomond has that special feel to it and the atmosphere that it brings, there's no other place like it.

No other place like it in Ireland, maybe.

cgpg5

irishbucsfan wrote: »

No other place like it in Ireland, maybe.

What other club team in Europe has an atmosphere like Thomond in fairness?

phog

danthefan wrote: »

I'd imagine they'd have to think hard about turning down all that revenue though. They could double what they'd make from Thomond.

It's not just about revenue to the club, they'd be a huge loss of revenue to Limerick as a city. Munster know this and it I think it would be a big part in their decision.

It would almost be akin to the GAA not letting Ireland not use Croke Park when Lansdowne was being redeveloped and Ireland moving their "home" games to the UK.

It's completely different for Leinster who only have to move the game a few hundred meters up the road and the game is still being held in the same city.

phog

cgpg5 wrote: »

What other club team in Europe has an atmosphere like Thomond in fairness?

Did you see Clermont yesterday?

phog

[Jackass] wrote: »

Oh, the Munster arrogance is back,

Where? We have been saying all through the pool stages that we had won what we won. Yesterday, saw us win 6 from 6 and top seed for the Q/Fs.

I seriously doubt that we'll go 9 from 9 and that's the problem.