Heineken Cup - General Discussion Thread

Farold

Sky commentators mentioned that Owens is giving the opposite decisions for the same things that happened last week. He hasnt been great lately in my opinion. Certainly not as good as he used to be

Burgo

Trevisio 26 - 20 Ospreys, got themselves a BP!

irishbucsfan

Brilliant from Biarritz. From deep in their 22, 2 phase try ending in a cross field kick to Hari.

5-3. Very close game. Saracens just need another penalty

ongarite

Class try from Biarritz.

irishbucsfan

And straight away they give Farrell a chance to give Saracens the lead. As the game goes on and penalties are given away more by tiring packs, Saracens will have a bit more of an advantage.

Farrell hits the post. Tough kick in fairness.

Aidric

That wasn't a spear tackle. No yellow should have been shown.

Burgo

Aidric wrote: »

That wasn't a spear tackle. No yellow should have been shown.

Agreed, awful call by the ref.

matthew8

Aidric wrote: »

That wasn't a spear tackle. No yellow should have been shown.

It was a tip tackle, the referee was following the rules. I'm definitely supporting Treviso, but I felt that was a fair call.

copacetic

Super try.

ongarite

TRY OF THE TOURNAMENT!!

irishbucsfan

Brilliant again from Biarritz.

Ngwneya is just so fast. They are so dangerous from deep.

With that pack and that deep scoring threat they are a tough team to beat. If they had a fly half they would be one of the best teams in the competition.

matthew8

Biarritz try was fantastic, but Treviso had 2 brilliant tries too, both starting near the halfway line.

wixfjord

I really, really do not like Biarritz.

irishbucsfan

Either shameful playacting or that poor lad is choking to death.

irishbucsfan

wixfjord wrote: »

I really, really do not like Biarritz.

I "like" them in the same way I "liked" Alan Quinlan. And the same way I hope I'll "like" Peter O'Mahoney for the next 10 years

wixfjord

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I "like" them in the same way I "liked" Alan Quinlan. And the same way I hope I'll "like" Peter O'Mahoney for the next 10 years

What as in they're annoying as **** and a little bit dirty?!

matthew8

Bad refereeing call there in Treviso.

Farold

I do think that Biarritz have one of the most underrated players in world rugby in Erik Lund though. I wanted Leinster to snap him up after Hines left.

ScrubsfanChris

Treviso 26 - 26 Oepreys

Nearly over...

Aidric

Ospreys snatch a last gap draw. 26-26.

matthew8

Treviso very unlucky there. Very surprised that the Ospreys didn't go for the win, basically condemning themselves to getting a result in Saracens or Biarritz.

ongarite

Need this conversion for a bonus point.

DDC1990

ongarite wrote: »

Need this conversion for a bonus point.

Nope its 7 Points anyway,

EDIT: It went over. 15-10

wixfjord

Fair ****s Sarries.
That could be big.

Most of the pools are wide open!

Owen Farrell could be some star.

ongarite

DDC1990 wrote: »

Nope its 7 Points anyway,

OK, lovely conversion anyway.

matthew8

Now it's between Saracens and Biarritz in that pool, unless Treviso can beat one of them. Judging by today, I wouldn't put it past them.

iroced

Maybe a starting point for Biarritz season... But for HEC perspective this "crazy" foul 5s to the end (how come they couldn't secure their pick and go for a little more time?!) that gave the ball back to the Saracens and lead to their try and defensive bonus point, may hit them back in a couple of months as it looks like it's gonna be a very close group.

Teferi

"The secret to success in the Heineken Cup is getting out of your pool"

I have no words for how dumb that sentence is.

greendom

Teferi wrote: »

"The secret to success in the Heineken Cup is getting out of your pool"

I have no words for how dumb that sentence is.

Who was the culprit ?:D

David900

I don't think its possible but does anyone know if you can watch the other matches from the red button on sky player on your computer?

Teferi

greendom wrote: »

Who was the culprit ?:D

Paul Wallace. His articles are normally grand but I've seen him make a few gaffes when he is on TV.

matthew8

David900 wrote: »

I don't think its possible but does anyone know if you can watch the other matches from the red button on sky player on your computer?

No.

Teferi

David900 wrote: »

I don't think its possible but does anyone know if you can watch the other matches from the red button on sky player on your computer?

Pretty sure you can if you have an iPad. Dunno about towers or laptops though.

tolosenc

tolosenc wrote: »

The consistency with which Northampton score points is terrifying. Leaving out their games against Embra in the pools last year, they scored:

18 vs Castres
23 vs Cardiff
23 vs Cardiff
23 vs Castres
23 vs Ulster
23 vs Perpignan
22 vs Leinster
21 vs Munster

Basically, if you can get to about 25 against them, you're golden.

23 again this round... Seriously, can I bet on them scoring 20-25 points?

matthew8

I wish sky would shut up in their commentary about losing bonus points. You shouldn't even bother going to the Airport if you're not going for a win. The only time accepting a losing bonus point (or a draw if you're in a situation like Ospreys today, accepting a draw in Clermont would be fine) is good is if you're in the last 2 rounds and you know it's all you need, like Leinster against Wasps in 2009. I remember last year they praised Munster for a losing BP at LI, though you could clearly see they were very unhappy about losing. It allows teams to spin losing as a good result. They talk about losing BPs as if they're the be all and end all of the tournament. I'm glad Leinster don't play like this is the case.

durkadurka

I've watched Leinster play for a lbp when they couldn't win a match. It can make all the difference. Only sensible really.
It only comes into play if you find yourself 10 down with a few minutes to play.

copacetic

Teferi wrote: »

"The secret to success in the Heineken Cup is getting out of your pool"

I have no words for how dumb that sentence is.

In fairness to Paul he is on rock solid ground with that statement!

I think he was trying to say always getting at least a losing bonus point was the key to getting out of your pool, but got a bit befuddled.

matthew8

copacetic wrote: »

In fairness to Paul he is on rock solid ground with that statement!

I think he was trying to say losing bonus points were the key to getting out of your pool, but got a bit befuddled.

Which is my point exactly on the losing bonus points. The key to getting out of your pool is winning, simple as.

copacetic

matthew8 wrote: »

Which is my point exactly on the losing bonus points. The key to getting out of your pool is winning, simple as.

That's like something inane and meaningless that Paul himself would say. Of course winning games is key. However, time and time again the top teams in the pool beat each oher at home and are separated by the bonus points from those games.

Burgo

20 mins in Bath 13 - 0 Montpellier. Donald is having a great game so far.

Trin-Duc off injured.

jacothelad

Burgo wrote: »

20 mins in Bath 13 - 0 Montpellier. Donald is having a great game so far.

Trin-Duc off injured.

Not injured. Carded

yimrsg

Francois Louw is a really good poacher in the backrow for Bath.

wixfjord

Try for Montpellier, with two forward passes in it possibly.

16-8 conversion to come.

Would like Mont to win this imo.

Big Nelly

Nice try Montpellier, would love to see them win!!!

durkadurka

Who do we want to win?

Big Nelly

durkadurka wrote: »

Who do we want to win?

Montpellier, will kill bath confidence. Then we wipe the floor with Bath in next 2 matchs and get out of group miles ahead!:P

wixfjord

durkadurka wrote: »

Who do we want to win?

Montpellier I'd say because it would all but put Bath out with the Aviva to come, and we've Mont at home last.

Big Nelly

Funny kicking style from Montpellier kicker!!!

Can't listen to pro English crap anymore on Sky!!!

wixfjord

Big Nelly wrote: »

Funny kicking style from Montpellier kicker!!!

Can't listen to pro English crap anymore on Sky!!!

Robson is unbearable at times.

wixfjord

Don't care what people say, Donald is a classy player.
No shame not being Dan Carter.