Irish chicken is fresher and better quality - please buy Irish

Cavehill Red

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

where have you mentioned that?

Here.

Chuck Stone

You two cocks* stop fighting. :pac:


*cock
a male chicken; rooster.

Cavehill Red

Wasn't my intention to derail the thread. I'm no less Irish than anyone else and the same goes for Northern Irish poultry farmers.

While I buy meat from the island of Ireland only, I concur that it's not the consumer who needs persuading about the Thai chicken invasion, but the commercial firms.

admiralofthefleet

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Here.

thats into northern ireland, not the republic

Cavehill Red

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

thats into northern ireland, not the republic

Yes, into Ireland. Irish farmers in the North give the queen some tax, then she gives them and their community 7 billion more back every year. Very nice of her. Are we done with this yet, or do you want another spin on this merry-go-round before we get back to the chickens?

admiralofthefleet

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Yes, into Ireland. Irish farmers in the North give the queen some tax, then she gives them and their community 7 billion more back every year. Very nice of her. Are we done with this yet, or do you want another spin on this merry-go-round before we get back to the chickens?

which proves my original point that northern irish farmers dont contribute to the coffers of the republic

now im finished, good night

Cavehill Red

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

which proves my original point that northern irish farmers dont contribute to the coffers of the republic

now im finished, good night

No, your original point was to claim here that Northern Irish people and their products are foreign, which they're not.

You sleep well, now.

KeithAFC

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Nope, 7 billion of a donation, between the Northern Ireland block grant and security costs, annually. I wasn't talking about Gideon's loan to Dublin.



No, it supports Irish farmers living under British rule. Check your copy of the Good Friday Agreement.

Every farmer in Ulster is Irish? Gosh..

Back to the topic..

I support my local butcher when it comes to meat. It is the best quality and you do pay what you get for IMO.

admiralofthefleet

Cavehill Red wrote: »

No, your original point was to claim here that Northern Irish people and their products are foreign, which they're not.

You sleep well, now.

i never said northern irish people were foreign (which they are by the way) i said i wouldnt buy foreign produce (including northern ireland) because it doesnt benefit the irish exchequer

df1985

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdw0dB1nvM

Pompey Magnus

KeithAFC wrote: »

Every farmer in Ulster is Irish? Gosh..

Not all farmers in Ulster are Irish, I'm sure there are a few English and Scots with farms there too, most Ulster farmers are Irish though.

norrie rugger

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Northern IRELAND isn't foreign. The clue is in the name.

The money goes to the UK treasury. Yes it is foreign.
Does not matter that the UK sends money back into its own land. It is UK based and they are UK farmers

Cavehill Red

norrie rugger wrote: »

The money goes to the UK treasury. Yes it is foreign.
Does not matter that the UK sends money back into its own land. It is UK based and they are UK farmers

It helps if you read the whole thread.

norrie rugger

Cavehill Red wrote: »

It helps if you read the whole thread.

helps if you let people read the whole thread and come back to their post.
I buy Irish chicken (Free Range). I avoid British chicken though

Chuck Stone

I refuse to eat Muslim chickens.

kowloon

I tend to be more concerned with welfare than buying Irish.
Choosing locally would be next in line.

Most wouldn't care less either way as long as it's cheap.

uberalles

Ste_D wrote: »

If chicken can be imported from Thailand for 1/5th the price then its not hard to see why the Irish farmers are not doing well.

They have low wages and questionably low standards and its 6+ days older when it gets here!

We have very few rendering plants left here. The super markets wont pay more yet the fuel bills for gas etc are rising year on year. Shame if we lost our Chicken farming.

Most of the imports end up with no label on it. Sandwich bars, restaurants etc . (no one asks where are your chickens sourced there)

Dyr

One thing I remember out being out in Asia is that the chicken actually tasted like...chicken. Unlike that bland white meat that passes for chicken in ireland

Wertz

Only ever buy fresh whole raw chickens... how anyone can complain about the price (usually €5-6 a pop) for a medium sized bird is beyond me.
I mean for just under an hour's work at minimum wage rates, you can have something that took a month or more's work and feeding to produce, never mind packaging it and making a profit (which I have to think many poultry farmers are not, due to supermarket price pressure).

Like someone else said, it's most likely that the foreign chicken in question is used in bulk catering, frozen/chilled breaded portions, and in fast food supply chains.
All that asian stuff is also pumped with water before it's frozen to bulk the weight and you'll know it when you taste it because it doesn't have anywhere close to the flavour of Irish poultry...

Logical Fallacy

I can't understand why anyone would buy meat in a Supermarket, it's always poor quality and terribly priced. You local butcher is a much better bet.

laoch na mona

we buy irish and it works out cheap
supervalue has the best meat and always has an offer tesco are good to

laoch na mona

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

. You local butcher is a much better bet.

much dearer as well

RangeR

smk89 wrote: »

No we aren't willing to pay more. We just aren't given a choice. LIDL and tesco both give no options of non Irish chicken.

You ARE given a choice. You have a choice to purchase your meat in your local butcher rather than the big multi's. You just CHOOSE not to.

Fratton Fred

People always want to buy cheaper and this will mean the producers sourcing cheaper produce.

If you buy a made in Ireland ready meal, sandwich or even sliced meat, it is practically a cert that the chicken did not come from Ireland.

This is mainly due to cost, but also volume, the Irish farmers can't produce enough to keep the food factories supplied.

Lord Trollington

smk89 wrote: »

No we aren't willing to pay more. We just aren't given a choice. LIDL and tesco both give no options of non Irish chicken.

There are far more shops out there than Lidl and Tesco believe it or not.

Broaden your horizons a little.

bamboozle

Lord Trollington wrote: »

There are far more shops out there than Lidl and Tesco believe it or not.

Broaden your horizons a little.

if we want to do more for Irish producers in general then avoiding shopping in Tesco is a good starting point.

Local butchers for meat, although superquinn always have a good meat counter.

Fratton Fred

Bambi wrote: »

One thing I remember out being out in Asia is that the chicken actually tasted like...chicken. Unlike that bland white meat that passes for chicken in ireland

In Asia they use the redder meat from the legs, in northern europe we use breast meat.

Dyr

Fratton Fred wrote: »

In Asia they use the redder meat from the legs, in northern europe we use breast meat.

This was the whole chicken...think they were running them over for us

Fratton Fred

bamboozle wrote: »

if we want to do more for Irish producers in general then avoiding shopping in Tesco is a good starting point.

Local butchers for meat, although superquinn always have a good meat counter.

It doesn't make any difference. Tesco, Lidl, Dunnes etc all buy their stuff from the same people.

Fratton Fred

Bambi wrote: »

This was the whole chicken...think they were running them over for us

Run over, stuck on a stick and grilled on a bike at the side of the road.

You can't beat Bangkok Chicken lollipops.

Lord Trollington

bamboozle wrote: »

if we want to do more for Irish producers in general then avoiding shopping in Tesco is a good starting point.

Local butchers for meat, although superquinn always have a good meat counter.

I agree 100%. Tesco do not give a flying fock about Irish farmers or butchers.

I know of a Tesco in a particular town that opened up recently and was selling products cheaper than Super Value down the road.

Of course this took its toll and it closed, once it closed they gradually put their prices back up.

Duke Leonal Felmet

I eat free range only, which always comes from Irish (or at least British) farms. I wouldn't put non-free range near my mouth. For a euro or two more per free range chicken you get a world of difference in quality.

ItsAWindUp

Don't buy any chicken!

Logical Fallacy

laoch na mona wrote: »

much dearer as well

I disagree.

In my local butchers i get a pound of mince beef for 3 euro, it's closer to 4 in Dunnes.

I can get two sirloin steaks for 5.50, a half pound of fillet steak for 6 euro, 2 large chicken breasts for 2.50.

I have always found the butcher to be cheaper.

old hippy

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Northern IRELAND isn't foreign. The clue is in the name.

It sort of is, though.

Duke Leonal Felmet

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

laoch na mona wrote: »

much dearer as well

I disagree.

In my local butchers i get a pound of mince beef for 3 euro, it's closer to 4 in Dunnes.

I can get two sirloin steaks for 5.50, a half pound of fillet steak for 6 euro, 2 large chicken breasts for 2.50.

I have always found the butcher to be cheaper.

Butchers tend to be 20% cheaper, in my experience, with knowledgeable staff and superior produce.

neilthefunkeone

All tastes the same to me in a curry!!!.. Big bag of frozen fillets from aldi is where it at!

4leto

Its one of my great mysteries in life. I do see a chicken in Tesco for 2 to 3 euros and I think HOW, how do they feed and water the little critter, then gut, pluck and transport the bird to a Tesco shop who I imagine get a cut as well for 3 euros, surely it has eaten more then 3 euros worth of feed.

How the fkuc do they do it.

Duke Leonal Felmet

neilthefunkeone wrote: »

All tastes the same to me in a curry!!!.. Big bag of frozen fillets from aldi is where it at!

Lord no. That must be one god damn hot curry. Give a free ranger a go. Such a massive difference.

themadchef

We eat FAR too much meat. Shead load of mince for €3? :eek: bargain? Think not. People stop feeding your faces with crap. Beans, pulses, vegetables. Meat used to be eaten twice maybe and i mean MAYBE 3 times a week not three meals a day ffs.

We need to give the piggy a rest and let the John Wayne revoloution begin. Might get a bit blustery :pac:

Duke Leonal Felmet

4leto wrote: »

Its one of my great mysteries in life. I do see a chicken in Tesco for 2 to 3 euros and I think HOW, how do they feed and water the little critter, then gut, pluck and transport the bird to a Tesco shop who I imagine get a cut as well for 3 euros, surely it has eaten more then 3 euros worth of feed.

How the fkuc do they do it.

The biggest costs facing any producer must be taken on a cost per unit basis, and more importantly, how many units your resources can cater for. If you stick thousands of chickens into a tiny shed, feed them garbage and allow them to p1ss and sh1t all over each other, then your cost per unit produced is driven way down. To produce free range chickens requires a lot of land. Cost per unit rises. Feed them corn, cost per unit rises. These things multiply and lead to more expensive meat.

bamboozle

Fratton Fred wrote: »

It doesn't make any difference. Tesco, Lidl, Dunnes etc all buy their stuff from the same people.

anyone i know in food production here has had major issues with Tesco squeezing the life out of their margins and threatening to replace with cheaper non-irish products, one of the companies had 13 products with Tesco 3 years ago, now they have 3, the other 10 replaced with welsh and asian sourced products.

Joshua Jones

Judging by the fact that over half of the players at the U17 world cup failed drug tests due to steroids in the local meat, people should be wary where their produce comes from.

Fratton Fred

bamboozle wrote: »

anyone i know in food production here has had major issues with Tesco squeezing the life out of their margins and threatening to replace with cheaper non-irish products, one of the companies had 13 products with Tesco 3 years ago, now they have 3, the other 10 replaced with welsh and asian sourced products.

Lidl and Dunnes are the same, as are Musgraves.

Tesco source on a global/regional basis, not country by country.

The Irish food sector is doing very well at the moment, look at Kerry Foods for example. One of the reasons for that is because they supply Tesco not just in Ireland, but also in the UK.

Paparazzo

Sergeant wrote: »

Battery chicken is a disgusting lump of tasteless protein no matter where in the world it comes from.

Unless its covered in a crispy kfc coating

old hippy

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Lidl and Dunnes are the same, as are Musgraves.

Tesco source on a global/regional basis, not country by country.

The Irish food sector is doing very well at the moment, look at Kerry Foods for example. One of the reasons for that is because they supply Tesco not just in Ireland, but also in the UK.

Indeed they do, that was one of the brands I bought here in London town, before I quit all cow products. But I bought it because it was a quality product - not simply because it was Irish. All this petty jingoistic flag waving is ridiculous.

Gummy Panda

themadchef wrote: »

We eat FAR too much meat. Shead load of mince for €3? :eek: bargain? Think not. People stop feeding your faces with crap. Beans, pulses, vegetables. Meat used to be eaten twice maybe and i mean MAYBE 3 times a week not three meals a day ffs.

We need to give the piggy a rest and let the John Wayne revoloution begin. Might get a bit blustery :pac:

That just crazy talk.

hangon

Gummy Panda wrote: »

That just crazy talk.

Careful now,it is obvious that Animals are in the ascendency and us higher beings are on the decline.

ryoishin

Chickens are nt supposed to eat corn they re not vegaterians! Thats why its crap meat, fattens them up but very little in the way of nutrition.

Andrew33

Ste_D wrote: »

If chicken can be imported from Thailand for 1/5th the price then its not hard to see why the Irish farmers are not doing well.

Have you seen the environmental damage being done in these Asian countries by unscrupulous companies just to provide us with cheap, crap quality chicken/pork/prawns etc.
If people opened their eyes and saw some of the horrendous conditions that animals are being reared in out east, they'd pay more attention to where their food is coming from.
The large retailers (I'm thinking Tesco mostly) really need to start coming clean on where their stuff is coming from.
I'm sick and tired of reading "Produced inside/outside the EU for Tesco/Dunnes/Aldi (delete as applicable) on supermarket packaging.
I want to know where my food is coming from!

Another point raised on that programme,

Large retailer opens store on outskirts of a town with the announcement that 100 jobs will be created.
What they fail to mention (and this is backed up with hard statistical evidence) is that 150 jobs will be lost in the surrounding area within 3 yrs as a direct result of large retailer moving in.