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just the boards channel in game
hey guys vote for axes axe to be made on man at arms (you click it at the end)
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mayordenis wrote: »
good lord. young males getting ranked at video games = bad gaming experience.
"What Makes a Good Match?
The ultimate goal of automated matchmaking in Dota 2 is for players to enjoy the game. The matchmaker seeks matches with the following properties (listed in no particular order):
1. - The teams are balanced. (Each team has a 50% chance to win.)
2. - The discrepancy in skill between the most and least skilled player in the match is minimized. This is related to team balance, but not the same thing."
nothing but lies!
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good lord. young males getting ranked at video games = bad gaming experience.
"What Makes a Good Match?
The ultimate goal of automated matchmaking in Dota 2 is for players to enjoy the game. The matchmaker seeks matches with the following properties (listed in no particular order):
1. - The teams are balanced. (Each team has a 50% chance to win.)
2. - The discrepancy in skill between the most and least skilled player in the match is minimized. This is related to team balance, but not the same thing."
nothing but lies!
My understanding is that very little in matchmaking will actually change, just that your ranking will become visible and you'll earn bragging rights from your mates, possibly leading to people falling out because they finally find an excuse to stop playing with the guy in their regular 5 stack who can't carry a game to save his life.
Your ranking can still be skewed by a lot of factors, like if you're 5 stacking with regs all the time. If you play the role of the sacrificial support in captains mode all the time, but play it well, you'll still end up with a lower ranking that the guy who just plays broken heroes in All Pick.
What they don't seem to have done is factor in your KDA/Winrate with particular heroes in particular game modes compared that the average and use this to calculate your MMR. This would be fairer wouldn't it?0 -
My understanding is that very little in matchmaking will actually change, just that your ranking will become visible and you'll earn bragging rights from your mates, possibly leading to people falling out because they finally find an excuse to stop playing with the guy in their regular 5 stack who can't carry a game to save his life.
Your ranking can still be skewed by a lot of factors, like if you're 5 stacking with regs all the time. If you play the role of the sacrificial support in captains mode all the time, but play it well, you'll still end up with a lower ranking that the guy who just plays broken heroes in All Pick.
What they don't seem to have done is factor in your KDA/Winrate with particular heroes in particular game modes compared that the average and use this to calculate your MMR. This would be fairer wouldn't it?
there was a mod for HoN back in the day called "TSR" which was true skill rating which factored in things like wards placed and that kinda jazz which seemed relatively accurate, more accurate then the MMR system in the game anyway. One thing though, solo MMR means absolutely nothing as winning and losing is mostly luck. a lot of the best players I played with had ~1750 mmr and really didnt give a crap about that number as it was so easily skewed. it was your performance in pickups and cups that really mattered and how you played with a team. But of course if we joined a public game Jonny '1850mmr' would start giving them crap because they appeared to be lower rated.
long story short, I've never seen anything good come of any of these rating systems. having a high matchmaking rating doesn't get you into the pro scene, thats done differently. What will happen though (as is the case in LoL) is that the unranked matchmaking will become even more of a trollfest than it already is. "im going to go mid with meepo cos this game doesnt count" and so forth. But a lot of people who grind those numbers won't like acknowledging that and will attach more value to them than they are actually worth. believe me, i was around 1850mmr in HoN and it meant absolutely nothing when you and your team are getting slapped around by some 1700 'noobs' in a cup
but a lot of sugared up males are going to regularly have freak outs in their ranked game because someone else is going mid and blablabla reported blabla making for a horrible gaming experience0 -
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Dreddybajs wrote: »How would they do that?
get a hold of the algorithm that forms the MMR system and apply it to each player or something. i dunno, im not the most technical minded how do sites like LoLking and dotabuff do it? 0 -
Legion Commander is coming in the Frostivus update!
Also confirmed is:
Friend spectacting - you can view tournament games your friend is viewing even if you don't own a pass
Ranked MM - As discussed already
Updated Tutorial - Which will delve deeper into items for beginners
Recruiting - Recruiting a friend to Dota 2 earns you battle bonus
I personally cannot wait to see Duels again
Here's a detailed list of updates:
User Interface
Added option to display the Minimap on the right side of the screen. Some HUD skins may have issues in this mode
The drafter is now indicated when spectating a CM or CD game.
Fixed a case where shop items would get stuck on the screen after dragging
Play a sound when a teammates puts an item into your hero's inventory. eg when giving a Tango charge
Fixed a case where health and mana bars would be invisible at the beginning of a match
Select All Other Units hotkey now also selects other units like Plague and Serpent Wards
Added captions in Korean.
Community
You now get an abandon if one of your party members abandons. A party abandon on its own cannot put you into low priority.
Added message indicating that players must complete a low-priority match with players on both sides to decrement their low-priority penalty count
Adjusted the amount of XP required for Dota Profile levels 2 thru 7 (your in-profile XP bar might be a little off until you finish a game)
Game modes are now unlocked as you progress through levels
6.79c Gameplay Update
Hand of Midas recipe cost increased from 1400 to 1550
Ancestral Spirit vision reduced from 600 to 450
Ancestral Spirit damage reduced from 80/120/160/200 to 60/100/140/180
Plague Wards night vision reduced from 1200 to 800
Venomancer base movement speed reduced from 290 to 285
Fixed Power Cogs knockback aoe being too big
Fixed Whirling Death not restoring enough HP after the debuff wears off
Necronomicon night vision from 1300/1400/1500 to 800
Necronomicon gold bounty increased from 100 to 100/125/150 (per unit)
Magnetic Grip cast range reduced from 1400 to 1100
Boulder Smash silence duration reduced from 5 to 3.5/4/4.5/5
Boulder Smash unit knockback range rescaled from 800 to 500/600/700/800
Fixed Stone Remnant counting as a spell (for purposes of Curse of the Silent, Magic Stick, etc)
Dueling units cannot be disarmed or Force Staffed away
Visage movement speed reduced from 295 to 290
Crystal Maiden base Intelligence reduced from 21 to 19 (same base damage as before)
Added Slark to CM
Added Huskar in CM
Visuals
Orchid - Added fx for damage pop at the end of orchid, and additional effects if unit dies to orchid damage.
Fixed projected texture and screenshake render types that were drawing to the portrait also effecting the world, fixes bug with Enigma darkness rendering from his portrait in the world.
Fixed some Bounty Hunter items which weren't properly showing his Jinada effects.
Economy
Players now receive a series of presents as they proceed through the early levels of the game. Each present contains some free items to use.
Automatically unlock and select item styles that are unlocked by inscribed gems reaching a certain value
Fixed armory preview of items not showing the correct style
Workshop
Heroes updated or newly enabled on the workshop - Earth Spirit, Ember Spirit, Storm Spirit, Gyrocopter, Pudge
Showcase View
Hide Pause panel in Showcase View.
Fixed a bug where dragging could select another follow unit.0 -
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New even wraith night is out!get a hold of the algorithm that forms the MMR system and apply it to each player or something. i dunno, im not the most technical minded how do sites like LoLking and dotabuff do it?
Dotabuff cant do it, it was removed a long time ago. No site will be able to.0 -
They have completed removed SK?!!?!?
SOON I WILL CHOOSE A QUEEN?!!?
This is all very upsetting. It feels like yesterday that I went 0-16 as jungle SK as a Dire Nightstalker ran rampant while out of principle I rang back to my jungle to face certain death as the Russian on my team had forced me there.
I'm going to have a 20 second silence for SK at my desk
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Deleted User wrote: »They have completed removed SK?!!?!?
SOON I WILL CHOOSE A QUEEN?!!?
This is all very upsetting. It feels like yesterday that I went 0-16 as jungle SK as a Dire Nightstalker ran rampant while out of principle I rang back to my jungle to face certain death as the Russian on my team had forced me there.
I'm going to have a 20 second silence for SK at my desk
It was for a copyright infringement, but they said it was for "ceremonial" reasons so I guess they're trying to develop some kind of back-story for his replacement. Or maybe he came back to the land of the living and had a sex change to become Legion.
Queen of Pain could be removed from the game next.
EDIT: Ah right, he's being resurrected as Wraith. http://www.dotacinema.com/news/frostivus-day-3-patch-121213-wraith-night0 -
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