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Militant Pro-Choicers in Ireland

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  • #202
    NotForResale
    Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭NotForResale


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    Yeah condoms split, it's happened to me and other men I'm sure, she got the morning after pill and that was the problem solved.

    Also not always 100% effective, and according to a lot the "Medical Professionals" that frequent YD it can be an abortifacient..i wouldn't take them seriously though.


  • #203
    krudler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    so lets see, YD are:

    anti-contraception
    anti-MAP
    anti-abortion
    anti-gay


    Must be fun living in the 50's.


  • #204
    getuponthis
    Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭getuponthis


    People should be allowed to make their own choices without getting abuse from others.


  • #205
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,520 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    krudler wrote: »
    so lets see, YD are:

    anti-contraception
    anti-MAP
    anti-abortion
    anti-gay


    Must be fun living in the 50's.

    My brain isn't functioning as it should, what is this?


  • #206
    NotForResale
    Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭NotForResale


    krudler wrote: »
    so lets see, YD are:

    anti-contraception
    anti-MAP
    anti-abortion
    anti-gay


    Must be fun living in the 50's.

    And

    Anti-HPV vaccine
    Anti-IVF

    Even if i was prolife i wouldn't associate with them.


  • #207
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    NotForResale wrote: »
    Also not always 100% effective, and according to a lot the "Medical Professionals" that frequent YD it can be an abortifacient..i wouldn't take them seriously though.

    Personally I'd agree with abortion in cases of rape/incest or when the mothers life is at risk.

    I'm just making the point that when both partners use contraception and if an accident occurs during sex then use the MA pill it should be ok in most cases.


  • #208
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    kowloon wrote: »
    My brain isn't functioning as it should, what is this?

    morning after pill.


  • #209
    NotForResale
    Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭NotForResale


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    Personally I'd agree with abortion in cases of rape/incest or when the mothers life is at risk.

    I'm just making the point that when both partners use contraception and if an accident occurs during sex then use the MA pill it should be ok in most cases.

    But never 100%


  • #210
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    ash23 wrote: »
    Irish women have the right to travel for abortion and if you were pro-choice then that would be the end of it as far as you were concerned. Not about why they were going to do so, just that it was their choice to do so.

    In my experience pro-choice also kind of means respecting the decisions of others. So a pro-choice person would respect the right of someone to be pro-life. They might not agree with them but they respect their beliefs and don't try to change them. They just try to prevent people having their choice removed from them or interfered with.

    And until we do away with a "right to travel" and replace it with a "right to remain and have your abortion if that is your choice" Ireland will remain a hypocritical nation.

    As to YD being Anti-HPV vaccine, seriously? Fcuking Muppets!


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  • #211
    NotForResale
    Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭NotForResale


    MadsL wrote: »

    As to YD being Anti-HPV vaccine, seriously? Fcuking Muppets!

    yup page 13, they claim because its been linked deaths, but you could find tenuous links like that for just about any vaccine, its just a coincidence YD picked a vaccine that many fundamentalists erroneously claim would promote promiscuity.

    edit:
    Youth defence giving out about the HPV vaccines :

    2008

    2009

    2010


  • #212
    robp
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,934 ✭✭✭robp


    krudler wrote: »
    so lets see, YD are:

    anti-contraception
    anti-MAP
    anti-abortion
    anti-gay

    Well, obviously they don't currently campaign against contraception so I don't see the issue really.

    IVF is is entirely unregulated in this country. With Little Regulation, IVF poses ethical dilemmas. Almost all European countries have no laws to regulate this. Frankly, our lack of concern on this issue makes me nervous.


  • #213
    NotForResale
    Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭NotForResale


    robp wrote: »
    Well, obviously they don't currently campaign against contraception so I don't see the issue really.

    IVF is is entirely unregulated in this country. With Little Regulation, IVF poses ethical dilemmas. Almost all European countries have no laws to regulate this. Frankly, our lack of concern on this issue makes me nervous.

    These other issue are ones they want their supporters to also support and lobby for in the background.They'll tone down these other views down for the moment because abortion is in the news again and that technical group should be done soon, they don't want to risk losing the support to their group of people less informed of their views.

    Their page is full of people on high horses saying "these girls should have used contraceptives" completely unaware Youth Defence is against these things.


    As for the IVF, they're completely against any for of prenatal screening and would likely demand every egg fertilized for the procedure be implanted in woman so it can be brought to term.


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