Today I saw a car for sale

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Bigus wrote: »

It's only been for sale for 54 days that 147. So it'd be reasonable to assume it's way over priced.

+1
That and the fact that it's overpriced!

bear1

@Shabalala: Before you go and buy that 147 would this interest you?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/alfa-romeo-156-sportwagon-1-9td-ti-150bhp/8172732

IMO the nicest SW out there. You get the spec you want, more KM though, NCT until 2016, much more room, claimed FSH and 2.5k less than the 147. Of course it is 2 years older as well though.
Cause I'll be honest now and say that I checked a few more 147s both here and in the UK and now that I think of it the car is priced on the heavy side.
4.5k would be more reasonable in my opinion.

Another 147:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/alfa-romeo-147/7876165 34 day old ad though. I'd say it's still there.

Or you could get one of these:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/alfa-159-jtdm-1-9-150-bhp-2007-mint/7704962

Or if you just want a smallish fun quick car with good looks then here:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/alfa-romeo-gt-1-9-diesel-150bhp-may-swap/7883967

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/alfa-romeo-gt-1-9-litre-diesel/8165715

rizzodun

Personally, I hate the way people put the bhp into their ad, like it's terrible hard to research, and more than likely wrong on a second-hand car. I'd nearly disregard every ad on donedeal with the bhp in the title but that'd be an awful lot of ads.

Hal1

It's a 1.9 tdi 130 brake ladd.

CianRyan

I'd like to see more dyno sheets in modified car adds.

"Bigger turbo from something else
Front mount from something else
Injectors from something else
All cobbled together
Serious power
Just needs to be mapped
Will pass NCT no bother with cat (have it here)"

You get the idea.
All ****ed together, no mapping, no power.

JohnBoy26

CianRyan wrote: »

They cost nothing there but the price is in the logistics.

Cars in top condition or sought after cars don't come cheap at all over there.

CianRyan

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Cars in top condition or sought after cars don't come cheap at all over there.

S14's do and most of them end up at drift matsuris.
Forget about the foreigner actions, you can buy a turbo S14 over there for less than a grand our money.

JohnBoy26

CianRyan wrote: »

S14's do and most of them end up at drift matsuris.
Forget about the foreigner actions, you can buy a turbo S14 over there for less than a grand our money.

Have you a link to a top condition s14 for that money

Toyotafanboi

i believe good quality ae86's are getting rather scarce.

seen this ( https://www.facebook.com/JDMAuctionWatch/photos/pcb.388447464664598/388447324664612/?type=1&theater ) on facetube a few minutes ago. lads calling it mint and it's listed as a grade 4... the car is in tatters!

CianRyan

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Have you a link to a top condition s14 for that money

Nope, it's not my job to do your research.

JohnBoy26

CianRyan wrote: »

Nope, it's not my job to do your research.

Well It was you that stated that these are going for under 1k. If your going to say that why not back it up?

CianRyan

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Well It was you that stated that these are going for under 1k. If your going to say that why not back it up?

Why should I have to?
If you feel so strongly about this, by all means, do the work and prove me wrong.

JohnBoy26

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

i believe good quality ae86's are getting rather scarce.

seen this ( https://www.facebook.com/JDMAuctionWatch/photos/pcb.388447464664598/388447324664612/?type=1&theater ) on facetube a few minutes ago. lads calling it mint and it's listed as a grade 4... the car is in tatters!

The white one? What's up with it?

Toyotafanboi

yeah, the white glanza

the panel gap between the bonnet and the wing is fairly messy, there's a hole cut in the dashboard where the turbo timer used to be (under the drivers air vent), that's the wrong steering wheel (its a 4 spoke wheel from an ep90, glanza wheel is 3 spoke and black), the door grab handles and window switches are the wrong colour and painted black too. the glanza badge on the bootlid isn't OEM...

The stock ride height with the buddyclub wheels and fancy pedals too, weird :P

im not saying it's all bad like, most irish ones are worse, but from 3 low resolution photo's it's clear to see it's either been heavily modified and returned to a more standard state (likely) or it's been crashed (bad panel gaps, wrong badge and wrong steering wheel).

grade 4?

JohnBoy26

CianRyan wrote: »

Why should I have to?
If you feel so strongly about this, by all means, do the work and prove me wrong.

You don't, but if you did it would confirm weather you are talking rubbish or not. At the moment I suspect it's the former.

JohnBoy26

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

yeah, the white glanza

the panel gap between the bonnet and the wing is fairly messy, there's a hole cut in the dashboard where the turbo timer used to be (under the drivers air vent), that's the wrong steering wheel (its a 4 spoke wheel from an ep90, glanza wheel is 3 spoke and black), the door grab handles and window switches are the wrong colour and painted black too. the glanza badge on the bootlid isn't OEM...

The stock ride height with the buddyclub wheels and fancy pedals too, weird :P

im not saying it's all bad like, most irish ones are worse, but from 3 low resolution photo's it's clear to see it's either been heavily modified and returned to a more standard state (likely) or it's been crashed (bad panel gaps, wrong badge and wrong steering wheel).

grade 4?

It's hard to judge those photos in regards to panel gaps, but yeah you have a point in that it's been modified and no I wouldn't believe that it's a grade 4 car, it would have to be in pretty spectacular condition to be that. Im not sure I would go as far as to say it's in tatters though, a look on donedeal will show tatters:p However With it's modifications I don't see it being above 3 tbh.

What grade do you reckon it is?:)

Toyotafanboi

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

It's hard to judge those photos in regards to panel gaps, but yeah you have a point in that it's been modified and no I wouldn't believe that it's a grade 4 car, it would have to be in pretty spectacular condition to be that. Im not sure I would go as far as to say it's in tatters though, a look on donedeal will show tatters:p However With it's modifications I don't see it being above 3 tbh.

What grade do you reckon it is?:)

yeah, tatters was a it extreme. rough around the edges would be a better phrase. i'd just be sure it's led an "interesting" life, but i guess what 15-20 year old performance car hasn't, to some degree at least.

tbh i don't understand the intricacies of the grading system. all i know is it goes from 1 to 5 and that car is advertised as a grade 4... and it isn't 4 out of 5 good in my eyes anyway :P

CianRyan

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

You don't, but if you did it would confirm weather you are talking rubbish or not. At the moment I suspect it's the former.

Well Here's a website that will help you decided whether I'm talking rubbish or not.
Glad to help.

Noccy_Mondy

Ohh the claws are out tonight boys :P :pac:

shabalala

bear1 wrote: »

@Shabalala: Before you go and buy that 147 would this interest you?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/alfa-romeo-156-sportwagon-1-9td-ti-150bhp/8172732

IMO the nicest SW out there. You get the spec you want, more KM though, NCT until 2016, much more room, claimed FSH and 2.5k less than the 147. Of course it is 2 years older as well though.
Cause I'll be honest now and say that I checked a few more 147s both here and in the UK and now that I think of it the car is priced on the heavy side.
4.5k would be more reasonable in my opinion.

Another 147:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/alfa-romeo-147/7876165 34 day old ad though. I'd say it's still there.

Or you could get one of these:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/alfa-159-jtdm-1-9-150-bhp-2007-mint/7704962

Or if you just want a smallish fun quick car with good looks then here:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/alfa-romeo-gt-1-9-diesel-150bhp-may-swap/7883967

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/alfa-romeo-gt-1-9-litre-diesel/8165715

All very nice Bear, but all high mileage, i know im being picky, i rang about the silver 147 but its due a timing belt and is also high mileage, if i got it for 4500 i reckon the red one is worth the 5k.

Im really only looking for a small hatch, but i do love the GT, if i could find one with low miles id consider it!

Id pay the 5k for the red 147 tbh, its got very little going against it, yes its priced on the high side, but im defo sticking to my offer of 5k not a penny less.

bear1

CianRyan wrote: »

They cost nothing there but the price is in the logistics.

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Cars in top condition or sought after cars don't come cheap at all over there.

CianRyan wrote: »

S14's do and most of them end up at drift matsuris.
Forget about the foreigner actions, you can buy a turbo S14 over there for less than a grand our money.

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Have you a link to a top condition s14 for that money

CianRyan wrote: »

Why should I have to?
If you feel so strongly about this, by all means, do the work and prove me wrong.

Thought I may wade in here for a second and pop up a link I've managed to find for used S14 turbos on the Japanese market.

http://www.goo-net.com/cgi-bin/fsearch/goo_used_search.cgi?category=USDN&limit=100&phrase=%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AB%E3%83%93%E3%82%A2+S14+%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9C+K%E2%80%99s&query=%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AB%E3%83%93%E3%82%A2+S14+%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9C+K%E2%80%99s&page=1

Now the word you are looking for is this: 価格 - this means base price
1000 Euro to Yen is 146k as of today.
The cheapest S14 I can see there is for 450k Yen which is roughly 3k.
I'm not saying Cian is wrong here I'm just implying that on this particular website there was nothing under 3k Euro.

Interslice

bear1 wrote: »

Thought I may wade in here for a second and pop up a link I've managed to find for used S14 turbos on the Japanese market.

http://www.goo-net.com/cgi-bin/fsearch/goo_used_search.cgi?category=USDN&limit=100&phrase=%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AB%E3%83%93%E3%82%A2+S14+%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9C+K%E2%80%99s&query=%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AB%E3%83%93%E3%82%A2+S14+%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9C+K%E2%80%99s&page=1

Now the word you are looking for is this: 価格 - this means base price
1000 Euro to Yen is 146k as of today.
The cheapest S14 I can see there is for 450k Yen which is roughly 3k.
I'm not saying Cian is wrong here I'm just implying that on this particular website there was nothing under 3k Euro.

3k sounds about right. I think you pay around 1500 euro then to get them over here before you get ripped off by the tax man for 36% of whatever they decide it's worth here. Probably 5-6k for a S14 turbo.

JohnBoy26

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

yeah, tatters was a it extreme. rough around the edges would be a better phrase. i'd just be sure it's led an "interesting" life, but i guess what 15-20 year old performance car hasn't, to some degree at least.

tbh i don't understand the intricacies of the grading system. all i know is it goes from 1 to 5 and that car is advertised as a grade 4... and it isn't 4 out of 5 good in my eyes anyway :P

I think the grading goes up past grade 6 and on to grade S. However these 2 grades are really reserved for relatively new and low mileage vehicle afaik. 4.5 and 4 would be an excellent grade for an old car though. Many very good older cars will be around grade 3.5, even these are in excellent condition with maybe some very minor imperfections but still well above the norm for the age.

Also afaik some auctions grade cars differently from others. E.g a car might be seen as a grade 4 in one auction but to another auction it might only be seen as a grade 3.5

Interslice

Drool

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/bmw-8-series-840-ci-auto/8190535

Interslice

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/corolla-estate/8173878

I offered him 800 for it during the summer which I thought was fair. He said he'd put a bit of work into it. Even if it was taken from the forecourt and vacuum packed you wouldn't get 1700 for it! It has a few scratches and nearly 200k miles on it FFS.

16 valve efi straight diesel... http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/toyota-corolla/8191562 with a strut brace :pac:

Toyotafanboi

why do i get a feeling an fx-gt corolla was killed to keep that diesel on the road

Toyotafanboi

http://www.adverts.ie/car/toyota/corolla/the-thinking-mans-vw-golf/6919986

tried trolling a lowballer on adverts. think my eagerness scared him off :pac:.

beertons

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

http://www.adverts.ie/car/toyota/corolla/the-thinking-mans-vw-golf/6919986

tried trolling a lowballer on adverts. think my eagerness scared him off :pac:.

That's a great ad.

mothoin

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

http://www.adverts.ie/car/toyota/corolla/the-thinking-mans-vw-golf/6919986

tried trolling a lowballer on adverts. think my eagerness scared him off :pac:.

I would reckon his offer is a more accurate valuation of the car!:p

johndaman66

mothoin wrote: »

I would reckon his offer is a more accurate valuation of the car!:p

Toyotafanboi as much as I like the look of your car and its apparent it is a well cared for Corolla I would nearly have to agree with mothoin. I appreciate them Corolla's command high enough money and if I was looking for a reliable hassle free family hatchback from around that year that Corolla would possibly be my number one choice but still €4,000 would seem very much on the strong side to me despite this. It has 150k miles on it and yeah thats nout on a well cared for Corolla but many buyers do look at the mileage inspite of this whether you agree with them or not...

To be honest that guys offer of €3,000 would seem a very realistic starting point to me and if I was serious about selling the car I nearly would have engaged with him and discussed price...I'm sure he may well have come up too if he was serious. If that was his first and final offer, well than maybe yeah leave him off as you should most likely expect to sell for a few quid more. To be fair he was hardly totally taking the mick either when you consider some of the offers made by dopes on that site for items that are clearly worth multiples of their offers sometimes.

By the way I like the ad. Its rather novel and amusing to read. Sometimes its a bit hard to tell if your being facetious or not in it! On a side note I'm sure there are 1.4 NCT'd Golfs out there with 150k mile up on them.....Its just that they most likely cost more in repairs and maintenance and were generally more stressful to live with than the Corolla along the way in reaching that mileage....Again though maybe that comment was a purposely intended facetious one on your part...

Anyway, best of luck with the sale. As I mentioned its one clean and very apparently well cared for Corolla..

26000 Elephants

johndaman66 wrote: »

On a side note I'm sure there are 1.4 NCT'd Golfs out there with 150k mile up on them.....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/vw-golf-2003-1-4l/8180053

Plus 8 others... Who knew...?

Pops_20

Asking about thrice the price of what it's worth. Cheeky enough considering the hatchet mods.

http://www.adverts.ie/car/toyota/glanza/high-spec-glanza/6881874

Also, serious question, why do people not bother with spelling??

ba_barabus

Pops_20 wrote: »

Asking about thrice the price of what it's worth. Cheeky enough considering the hatchet mods.

http://www.adverts.ie/car/toyota/glanza/high-spec-glanza/6881874

Also, serious question, why do people not bother with spelling??

Well at least it's not a gang car, it's never been involved in any scraps.

Thank God he is only testing the water and not actually selling it.

toyotaavensis

Toyotafanboi does this really have 99bhp?

Toyotafanboi

mothoin wrote: »

I would reckon his offer is a more accurate valuation of the car!:p

johndaman66 wrote: »

Toyotafanboi as much as I like the look of your car and its apparent it is a well cared for Corolla I would nearly have to agree with mothoin. I appreciate them Corolla's command high enough money and if I was looking for a reliable hassle free family hatchback from around that year that Corolla would possibly be my number one choice but still €4,000 would seem very much on the strong side to me despite this. It has 150k miles on it and yeah thats nout on a well cared for Corolla but many buyers do look at the mileage inspite of this whether you agree with them or not...

To be honest that guys offer of €3,000 would seem a very realistic starting point to me and if I was serious about selling the car I nearly would have engaged with him and discussed price...I'm sure he may well have come up too if he was serious. If that was his first and final offer, well than maybe yeah leave him off as you should most likely expect to sell for a few quid more. To be fair he was hardly totally taking the mick either when you consider some of the offers made by dopes on that site for items that are clearly worth multiples of their offers sometimes.

By the way I like the ad. Its rather novel and amusing to read. Sometimes its a bit hard to tell if your being facetious or not in it! On a side note I'm sure there are 1.4 NCT'd Golfs out there with 150k mile up on them.....Its just that they most likely cost more in repairs and maintenance and were generally more stressful to live with than the Corolla along the way in reaching that mileage....Again though maybe that comment was a purposely intended facetious one on your part...

Anyway, best of luck with the sale. As I mentioned its one clean and very apparently well cared for Corolla..

Thanks for the advice the advert is a little tongue in cheek in places, but it's pretty factual also. just thought i'd try something a little different with the ad to see if it grabbed any extra attention, it didn't work really.

in my opinion, anybody who makes an offer without viewing is most likely a timewaster. how can anyone make an offer without viewing the car. he was no more serious than the man in the moon.

i had done a reasonable bit of research before pricing my car. i admit 4250 might be very marginally optimistic when taking into account the irish nations view on mileage.

i have no doubt you could buy a 2004 terra spec saloon in silver with 7 owners and no service history for half the price of mine but for example...

these cars are all ****ter than mine in terms of spec (mileage aside) and dearer than mine, some by thousands.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/04-toyota-corolla-1-4-vvti/6989575
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/corolla-auto/7396458
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-litre-petrol/8022140
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-5dr-terra/8027211
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-hatch-back-65k-cork/7760503
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-5-door-only-75k-2004-nct-2-16/8159093
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-t3-vvti-auto/7741437

these are a little cheaper, but compromises
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-5dr-hatch-terra/7352623
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/i-owner-full-service-history-/8113180

i know it's a 3dr but look at the price tag.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-vvt-i-t3-3dr-only-5/7465215

aaaaaaaaannnyway. i know 4250 is a little optimistic but i had decided to start out at that and drop to 3950 after 10 days and continue in that fashion until there is movement. you can always drop the price, it's much harder to go back up.

toyotaavensis wrote: »

Toyotafanboi does this really have 99bhp?

varying reports on the internet of anywhere between 95 and 99 from the factory. i decided to go with the most optimistic option

JohnBoy26

Parkers have it at 95bhp which sounds bang on tbh

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/facts-and-figures/toyota/corolla/hatchback-2002/28385/

Toyotafanboi

I know this is an epic game of splitting hairs but they have the pre facelift 5dr t3 down as 97bhp :P http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/facts-and-figures/toyota/corolla/hatchback-2002/

johndaman66

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Thanks for the advice the advert is a little tongue in cheek in places, but it's pretty factual also. just thought i'd try something a little different with the ad to see if it grabbed any extra attention, it didn't work really.

in my opinion, anybody who makes an offer without viewing is most likely a timewaster. how can anyone make an offer without viewing the car. he was no more serious than the man in the moon.

i had done a reasonable bit of research before pricing my car. i admit 4250 might be very marginally optimistic when taking into account the irish nations view on mileage.

i have no doubt you could buy a 2004 terra spec saloon in silver with 7 owners and no service history for half the price of mine but for example...

these cars are all ****ter than mine in terms of spec (mileage aside) and dearer than mine, some by thousands.....

....aaaaaaaaannnyway. i know 4250 is a little optimistic but i had decided to start out at that and drop to 3950 after 10 days and continue in that fashion until there is movement. you can always drop the price, it's much harder to go back up........

Your welcome Toyotafanboi, I was pretty much guessing the ad was somewhat tongue and cheek in places.

Of the cars you listed many if not all of the first lot have lower mileage, considerably lower in cases. Some do look a little bit rough around the edges and most if not all are not as well spec'd as your own. I'm not saying they are better cars in account of having the lower mileage, anything but as as I mentioned in previous post yours looks a well cared for car. However, as mentioned in the previous post mileage is a biggy to much of the car buying public out there...I think only one had higher mileage than your own and it was from a Toyota main dealer. You would need to ask was the asking price on that one realistic also though.

Re the guy making the offer on Adverts I can see where your coming in a way. A few other points though....I'm unsure if you sold a car privately yourself before but if you did I'm sure you are aware it can be a furstrating and thankless exercise. I'm sure you will get offers lower than his but you just need to say thanks but no thanks, draw a line in the sand without getting too emotional about it. Remember too that the ball is very much in the court of the car buyer, lots of choice and availability out there. He may have went to 3,500 but the 3k was his opening offer. Thats what adverts is about and I think you need to accept that such wheeling and dealing will be a part of it before you place and ad there. If he has a certain budget and your asking is over it I think its fair game that he discusses money first besides a more detailed discussion on the car and then finding you are hell bent on 4k....cut straight to the chase so as to speak.

To be honest and I'm not trying to be a smart ass when I say this but the comment you left in the ad after that offer would almost make me, someone else viewing the ad a little apprehensive about putting down an offer, even a fair bit closer to your asking than the 3k offer.

Out of curiosity what kind of interest are you getting to the DD ad?

Toyotafanboi

ah yeah i totally get your point in regard to the mileage and i do know most of the irish car buying public would rather have a dire spec car with low mileage, but even at that, a lot of those low milers look a lot rougher than mine. i guess i'm kind of preaching to the choir on this forum (maybe), but i'd rather a high mileage car with a full history than a car with half the mileage, calcutta spec with 4 odd tyres and no paperwork behind it. i guess my initial price point was aimed at a like minded individual who was willing to compromise on mileage for a better all round car, high spec and lots of paperwork behind it.. i know the BMW drivers on here will say a corolla is a corolla but the t3 is an awful lot nicer a place to be than a terra spec for example.

My adverts ad is just a bit of an (automotive) social experimentation on my part. i'm aware the comments make me look like a nutter, just nothing infuriates me like the offer makers like that. sure look, i accepted his offer, havn't heard a word from him since, whether i'm a looper or not doesn't matter, all he wants is the car. i don't mind what happens on adverts, the ad comes up on the adverts search engine under VW Golf, so any prospective corolla buyers who may have seen it on donedeal probably won't find it there.

i've sold countless cars privately before, in fact for a few years i used to pick up low end trade in's from a few local dealers and do what is frowned upon so much on here :pac: invest a bit of time to tidy them up and sell them on, in a time before donedeal even existed and a carzone ad was €35 for 4 weeks. and i think the biggest thing i've learned is to not panic on a car sale, advertise and present it will and it'l sell. i've never had a car not sell, just don't freak out... don't go adding FINAL PRICE DROP, if you don't have cash don't call, L@@K quick sale needed etc. jut bide your time. if nothing moves after a fortnight or so, consider a conservative, unmentioned price drop and keep going that way until it shifts.

no interest from donedeal, zero. i hardly use that car, ever, maybe ten miles a week. unfortunately mrs. fanboi has required the astra all of this week just gone and next week so i've put 600 miles on it this week and probably more than that next week so it's not really fit to show anyone with all this wet weather, so it suits me well if nothing happens this week. so if there's no motion in the ocean i'l go 3900 at the end of next week and see how that fares. i'd take anything over 3500 for it really. to use an overused phrase, but it's actually true "i'm in no rush to sell so i won't give it away"... until i have to :pac:

NewApproach

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Thanks for the advice the advert is a little tongue in cheek in places, but it's pretty factual also. just thought i'd try something a little different with the ad to see if it grabbed any extra attention, it didn't work really.

in my opinion, anybody who makes an offer without viewing is most likely a timewaster. how can anyone make an offer without viewing the car. he was no more serious than the man in the moon.

i had done a reasonable bit of research before pricing my car. i admit 4250 might be very marginally optimistic when taking into account the irish nations view on mileage.

i have no doubt you could buy a 2004 terra spec saloon in silver with 7 owners and no service history for half the price of mine but for example...

these cars are all ****ter than mine in terms of spec (mileage aside) and dearer than mine, some by thousands.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/04-toyota-corolla-1-4-vvti/6989575
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/corolla-auto/7396458
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-litre-petrol/8022140
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-5dr-terra/8027211
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-hatch-back-65k-cork/7760503
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-5-door-only-75k-2004-nct-2-16/8159093
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-t3-vvti-auto/7741437

these are a little cheaper, but compromises
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-5dr-hatch-terra/7352623
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/i-owner-full-service-history-/8113180

i know it's a 3dr but look at the price tag.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-vvt-i-t3-3dr-only-5/7465215

aaaaaaaaannnyway. i know 4250 is a little optimistic but i had decided to start out at that and drop to 3950 after 10 days and continue in that fashion until there is movement. you can always drop the price, it's much harder to go back up.



varying reports on the internet of anywhere between 95 and 99 from the factory. i decided to go with the most optimistic option

Those cars are all still advertised because they're too expensive. Its pointless comparing your price to their asking price.

Toyotafanboi

NewApproach wrote: »

Those cars are all still advertised because they're too expensive. Its pointless comparing your price to their asking price.

Its pointless to compare the asking price of my car to the asking price of similar models?

26000 Elephants

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

in fact for a few years i used to pick up low end trade in's from a few local dealers and do what is frowned upon so much on here :pac: invest a bit of time to tidy them up and sell them on

We will be round to your house with the the torches and pitchforks tonight... You're a secret fixerupper interloper :pac::pac::pac:

( I like to do a bit of that too, but its bloody hard to make anything in this market. But I get to run cars for free)

Sound advise in your post, fair play. Keep your powder dry, and keep the cool head.

Pops_20

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/opel-astra-ncted-running-perfectly-/7914536

Toyotafanboi

Pops_20 wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/opel-astra-ncted-running-perfectly-/7914536

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/auto-glanza-s/8072235

missing one vital component under the bonnet :pac: but the price is right for one that doesn't look too badly abused.

i'd love an auto, n/a, pre facelift to keep alongside my own. i have no idea why.

look at these poor things. in 20 years time these will be as cult as the ae86.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-starlet-96/8138971
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-starlet-glanza-v-turbo-1-3/8086065
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-starlet-glanza-1-3/8178820
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-starlet-1999/8139445

Pops_20

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/auto-glanza-s/8072235

missing one vital component under the bonnet :pac: but the price is right for one that doesn't look too badly abused.

i'd love an auto, n/a, pre facelift to keep alongside my own. i have no idea why.

look at these poor things. in 20 years time these will be as cult as the ae86.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-starlet-96/8138971
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-starlet-glanza-v-turbo-1-3/8086065
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-starlet-glanza-1-3/8178820
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-starlet-1999/8139445

That Glanza S auto looks very clean to be fair, but after waiting so long I just have to do it right.

It has to be manual, turbo, 98/99 and preferably in black; and since you're not selling yours things aren't looking too good :pac:

I'm gone off the idea of importing one for the moment. There has to be at least a few really clean examples left in this country, but they don't seem to be coming up.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/glanza-years-test/8197126

Here is another one up again. Looks clean, but heavily modified, not what I'm after.

Any long term plans for your starlet?:p

Toyotafanboi

I take it when he says "full tom's kit", he knows it only has a toms frony bumper missing its spot lights and the rest of it is stock :P

You are probably waiting for the rarest combo. Facelifts are scarce, clean facelifts are even rarer and a black one, well :pac: bide your time, someone has one for you somewhere.

Mine? Its fast asleep for a while

colm_mcm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-starlet-96/8138971

On that one, is it a false engine declaration? Shouldn't they be 1332cc
Down as 997cc

Toyotafanboi

Correct. Judging by its hacked condition i wouldn't be surprised if they fitted an ep80 1.0 :pac: that was an n/a model anyway, maybe just an unwise seller

Toyotafanboi

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/seat-arosa/8186146

that's actually fairly cool looking. nice alternative for a first timer that wants a bit of "cred".

CianRyan

I think I'd rather shoot myself in the face.