Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

charolais0153

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What do you all think of reintroducing a sire to a bloodline after 4 generations? Keep the line tight or don’t go there....

Hed want to be fairly faultless

Never wrestle with pigs

tanko wrote: »

Theres a lad from Clare on Donedeal t/a Bullbank selling FZF (Mereside Favori) straws for €12, used him a few years ago and think hes a serious bull, a bit harder calved than average tho.
Anyone dealt with him?

Ya he's a1, no bs. The others mentioned previously you'd want to keep your wits about you.

bogman_bass

4 generations is plenty of a gap. I wouldn’t have any fears.

Invalid user

bogman_bass wrote: »

4 generations is plenty of a gap. I wouldn’t have any fears.

But is it good to reintroduce do you think?!

Who2

Invalid user wrote: »

But is it good to reintroduce do you think?!

No. If your asking the question it should be enough to put you off. There’s loads of good bulls out there.

RobinBanks

This lady was born with a lovely long coat of golden hair. She has completely transformed into a poor heifer.

tanko

Handy little KDU x lim cow, ZGM heifer calf.

patsy_mccabe

tanko wrote: »

Handy little KDU x lim cow, ZGM heifer calf.

Who you think of ZGM? Did you use much of him and what price is he?

tanko

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Who you think of ZGM? Did you use much of him and what price is he?

Thats the only calf off him here so far, have seen a few on neighbours farms, calves seem to have lots of muscle and shape. Easy calved on cows, have seen him used on heifers too.
I reckon hes a super terrminal bull, straws were €8 i think, but a royalty of €37 for pedigree calves. Im going to use him more next year.

patsy_mccabe

tanko wrote: »

Thats the only calf off him here so far, have seen a few on neighbours farms, calves seem to have lots of muscle and shape. Easy calved on cows, have seen him used on heifers too.
I reckon hes a super terrminal bull, straws were €8 i think, but a royalty of €37 for pedigree calves. Im going to use him more next year.

I was hoping to get some straws . Thanks for that. I've seen some very good PM Lims in Roscrea by him.

tanko

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I was hoping to get some straws . Thanks for that. I've seen some very good PM Lims in Roscrea by him.

Bova have a son of Gamin called Bova Kaiser in Ai also, has serious figures, looks a bigger bull and maybe a bit harder calved.

Never wrestle with pigs

Anyone use bovas lim bull called loyal?Easy calved with reliability. Have a few heifers to bull.

Putting umpire on a few and I was thinking about using lodge hamlet. Iv seen some lovely stock after hamlet but he can leave them a touch small. Would lord be better? For pedigrees.

Any pedigree lads here use sympa much? Will he leave as good a cow behind him as he's made out to?

patsy_mccabe

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Anyone use bovas lim bull called loyal?Easy calved with reliability. Have a few heifers to bull.

Putting umpire on a few and I was thinking about using lodge hamlet. Iv seen some lovely stock after hamlet but he can leave them a touch small. Would lord be better? For pedigrees.

Any pedigree lads here use sympa much? Will he leave as good a cow behind him as he's made out to?

I have one PB heifer in-calf to Hamlet. She's a bit tall and leggy so hoping the cross will work well.
Also have a Sympa cow. She's a bit on the small side but very muscley. Lovely temperment and a bit short of milk. Fantastic figures and lots of good back breeding. Have one ZAG heifer from her, a young calf. Expect her to be small too but she has the stars. That sympa cow is back in calf to Bavardage so fingers crossed for a heifer.

High bike

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I have one PB heifer in-calf to Hamlet. She's a bit tall and leggy so hoping the cross will work well.
Also have a Sympa cow. She's a bit on the small side but very muscley. Lovely temperment and a bit short of milk. Fantastic figures and lots of good back breeding. Have one ZAG heifer from her, a young calf. Expect her to be small too but she has the stars. That sympa cow is back in calf to Bavardage so fingers crossed for a heifer.

you got the agb straw after Patsy, from Munster??

patsy_mccabe

High bike wrote: »

you got the agb straw after Patsy, from Munster??

I had it left over from last year. Must try Munster again to see of they have any.;)

charolais0153

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Anyone use bovas lim bull called loyal?Easy calved with reliability. Have a few heifers to bull.

Putting umpire on a few and I was thinking about using lodge hamlet. Iv seen some lovely stock after hamlet but he can leave them a touch small. Would lord be better? For pedigrees.

Any pedigree lads here use sympa much? Will he leave as good a cow behind him as he's made out to?

What are your heifers like?
Was talkimg to a lad about pb limos and he said he uses only uk and french straws and that the irish bulls arent of the same quality. He mentioned hamlet as one he used. He would have good stock

Never wrestle with pigs

charolais0153 wrote: »

What are your heifers like?
Was talkimg to a lad about pb limos and he said he uses only uk and french straws and that the irish bulls arent of the same quality. He mentioned hamlet as one he used. He would have good stock

Good stock, going back to English breeding, foreman, vantastic, Alfy etc. Would have muscle but not extram. Only learning lim breeding tbh and getting into them. English and French bulls seem miles ahead of Irish bulls.

patsy_mccabe

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Good stock, going back to English breeding, foreman, vantastic, Alfy etc. Would have muscle but not extram. Only learning lim breeding tbh and getting into them. English and French bulls seem miles ahead of Irish bulls.

There are no Irish bulls as such. Nearly all bulls bred in this country are by either UK or French bulls. The problem with the UK bulls, unlike the French is they are never tested. Vantastic you mention above is in the bottom 1% for both milk and calving. Why would you want genetics like that in your herd?.....and still his progeny won nearly every prize in every show in the last few years.
I'm only learning myself but I heard a saying recently about breeding and this is "breed good heifers and the bulls will take care of themselves".

Hard Knocks

Did many here use CH2066 Derryolam Impeccable
What did you think?

Liked the look of him but didn’t get a chance to use him.
See Eurogene have a brother

johndoe97

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Did many here use CH2066 Derryolam Impeccable
What did you think?

Liked the look of him but didn’t get a chance to use him.
See Eurogene have a brother

Have one heifer out off him super quality cattle and cow was able to calve herself, unfortunately he seems to be gone though heard he had very poor quality semen.

Just wondering have any of ye had calves off the PG bull First? Had a PBR CH heifer calve this year and she was very tight and resulted in C Section, First has an easy calving rating and huge figures stars wise.

Hard Knocks

johndoe97 wrote: »

Have one heifer out off him super quality cattle and cow was able to calve herself, unfortunately he seems to be gone though heard he had very poor quality semen.

Eurogene have added a full brother
I’ll give him a go

RobinBanks

Malibu cow out of CF85 cow.

RobinBanks

Bolide heifer. Very disappointed. She was a smasher when born. Lovely long golden hair and nice hip but now she's a yolk.

RobinBanks

ZAG from Germinal heifer. Vet had to bring him

charolais0153

You're in the wrong thread;). Fine stock. Love the type of cows in the furst picture

FeelTheBern

charolais0153 wrote: »

You're in the wrong thread;). Fine stock. Love the type of cows in the furst picture

Never mind the cattle, I'm just looking at the grass.

RobinBanks

charolais0153 wrote: »

Love the type of cows in the furst picture

Me too. Medium size soft fleshing cow. What Charlaois bull would you try on her?

patsy_mccabe

tanko wrote: »

Theres a lad from Clare on Donedeal t/a Bullbank selling FZF (Mereside Favori) straws for €12, used him a few years ago and think hes a serious bull, a bit harder calved than average tho.
Anyone dealt with him?

I see this guy has a website now. Advertised on Donedeal.
https://bullbank.ie/

Pidae.m

Gamin cow - glorieux calf..... Of course she didn't go back in calf. FML as the kids say

patsy_mccabe

Pidae.m wrote: »

Gamin cow - glorieux calf..... Of course she didn't go back in calf. FML as the kids say

What you think of Glorieux? I've a purebred cow due to him in 2 weeks. Hoping to add a bit of size and improve docility.