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Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

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    #1592
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,774 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    WILODGE VANTASTIC if he can still be got.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #1593
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Who2 wrote: »
    I'm looking at getting a bit more Craic out of the cattle ( as the money isn't great) and I'm thinking of trying to breed a few show types. All mainly limo crosses, some with ch more with si and more with blues and a few pt and another few ba along with some fr. What bulls are out there that are consistently throwing show calves so I can organise myself well in advance, calving difficulty won't scare me too much with most and I don't want to be panicking when they come ready.

    I've used tvr and csq trying for a few . used BBQ on a muscly enough limousine cow so I'm expecting something decent. I had a welter of a csq heifer the last day , great bone,length and height . she was thin when she was born so will see how she shapes up muscle wise. had a nice calf by wbh last hear and hzj the year before


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    #1594
    Who2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭Who2


    tanko wrote: »
    I was kinda joking about him, all the lads breeding show calves use him but you need the right cow for him. Loads of sections and calving problems with him so be very careful.
    Lots of lads think Elite Ice cream is going to be a serious bull but he'll hardly be too easy calved.

    Tvr breeds some stuff but. I've a rough list of progressives done if anyone has any comments all's good. Tvr. Limo and maybe lm4058. Fsz and gka ch. rws and ajy bb.


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    #1595
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Who2 wrote: »
    Tvr breeds some stuff but. I've a rough list of progressives done if anyone has any comments all's good. Tvr. Limo and maybe lm4058. Fsz and gka ch. rws and ajy bb.

    I'll tell you 9th of january


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    #1596
    Farrell
    Registered Users Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Farrell


    charolais0153 wrote: »
    I'll tell you 9th of january

    Have heard mixed on FSZ, some plain calves, & seen some exceptional.
    GKA looks impressive, good reviews on calves but stars are against


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    #1597
    simx
    Registered Users Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭simx


    Ordered two straws of ampertaine foreman there Friday anybody use him before


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    #1598
    Pidae.m
    Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    Have a BZB ptx heifer , replacement index 145. She's a tad muscular.... am I bonkers putting her to the bull next spring.


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    #1599
    oneten
    Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭oneten


    take the index out of the equation for a moment , do you think she would make a good cow ?


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    #1600
    tismesoitis
    Registered Users Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    Wilodge Vantastic was mentioned above....the last I heard his straws were making €600 + a piece IF they could be got!!


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    #1601
    TITANIUM.
    Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    Farrell wrote: »
    Have heard mixed on FSZ, some plain calves, & seen some exceptional.
    GKA looks impressive, good reviews on calves but stars are against

    I'd steer clear of GKA if your looking for a show quality ch.


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    #1602
    Farrell
    Registered Users Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Farrell


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    I'd steer clear of GKA if your looking for a show quality ch.

    Who would you recommend?


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    #1603
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,774 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    tismesoitis wrote: »
    Wilodge Vantastic was mentioned above....the last I heard his straws were making €600 + a piece IF they could be got!!
    Jeez, that would be a nervous 3 week wait.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #1604
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Pidae.m wrote: »
    Have a BZB ptx heifer , replacement index 145. She's a tad muscular.... am I bonkers putting her to the bull next spring.

    depends on the bull


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    #1605
    TITANIUM.
    Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    Farrell wrote: »
    Who would you recommend?

    Fiston if you have a good Shapey cow. AGZ brings great stuff if you have a cow that will take him.
    But tbh (depending on his cows) I'd say that the he'll have to be going for a blue like Ross Alo to get serious shape. Fiston off good blue x cows bring some serious calf's.
    It'll all depend on his cows though.


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    #1606
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,259 ✭✭✭tanko


    Farrell wrote: »
    Who would you recommend?

    LGL????


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    #1607
    TITANIUM.
    Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    tanko wrote: »
    LGL????

    Is he still going? Christ he threw some great calf's. Abit inconsistent though.


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    #1608
    Who2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭Who2


    tanko wrote: »
    LGL????

    I never rated him.


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    #1609
    RobinBanks
    Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    Pidae.m wrote: »
    Have a BZB ptx heifer , replacement index 145. She's a tad muscular.... am I bonkers putting her to the bull next spring.

    I am in a similar position myself. I was considering an Aubrac but I dont know a whole lot about them other than small calves are birth


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    #1610
    Pidae.m
    Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    I am in a similar position myself. I was considering an Aubrac but I dont know a whole lot about them other than small calves are birth

    Au only if your taking them to beef yourself. They don't have the wow factor in the mart. I first used au stock bulls back in 03 , had 5 different ones & I find them very hit & miss regards getting heifers in calf. Mad burst for a month nothing then for another month. Gave up last year & bought a HE bull. He'd put myself in calf if I wasn't careful:)


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    #1611
    RobinBanks
    Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    Had you any calving trouble using Aubrac bulls? Would they suit a muscly type heifer? I know I shouldn't be keeping muscly stock for breeding but this is the first year i have a couple of PT heifers.


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    #1612
    GiantPencil
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    RobinBanks wrote: »
    Had you any calving trouble using Aubrac bulls? Would they suit a muscly type heifer? I know I shouldn't be keeping muscly stock for breeding but this is the first year i have a couple of PT heifers.
    Have you thought about using a Saler bull. I've used the PG bull Lataster Eric a few times and never had an issue. Gave me tall lengthy cattle too so the muscle from the mothers side would combine well I'd think. Also the Bova bull Vaillant has a CD of 2.2% at 90% reliability, have used him on heifers with no problems either


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    #1613
    RobinBanks
    Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    GiantPencil wrote: »
    Have you thought about using a Saler bull. I've used the PG bull Lataster Eric a few times and never had an issue. Gave me tall lengthy cattle too so the muscle from the mothers side would combine well I'd think. Also the Bova bull Vaillant has a CD of 2.2% at 90% reliability, have used him on heifers with no problems either

    I hadn't even thought of them but that's not to say I wouldnt use them. Thanks for the info.


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    #1614
    TITANIUM.
    Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    Who2 wrote: »
    I never rated him.

    That's a 8 month old LGL calf off a plain black lm cow. He made €1490 at 12 months.


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    #1615
    Pidae.m
    Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    Had you any calving trouble using Aubrac bulls? Would they suit a muscly type heifer? I know I shouldn't be keeping muscly stock for breeding but this is the first year i have a couple of PT heifers.
    Only one spring but thst was self inflicted by poor management. The same bull through greyhound like calves in July/Aug of that year. They really are a low maintenance breed do


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    #1616
    Pidae.m
    Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    I hadn't even thought of them but that's not to say I wouldnt use them. Thanks for the info.

    What's his docility like?


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    #1617
    Farrell
    Registered Users Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Farrell


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    Fiston if you have a good Shapey cow. AGZ brings great stuff if you have a cow that will take him.
    But tbh (depending on his cows) I'd say that the he'll have to be going for a blue like Ross Alo to get serious shape. Fiston off good blue x cows bring some serious calf's.
    It'll all depend on his cows though.

    AGZ is a mighty looking bull alright, what about that GPD?


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    #1618
    Farrell
    Registered Users Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Farrell


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    That's a 8 month old LGL calf off a plain black lm cow. He made €1490 at 12 months.
    Nice calf, but plain cows can have hidden genes


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    #1619
    TITANIUM.
    Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    Farrell wrote: »
    AGZ is a mighty looking bull alright, what about that GPD?

    I cant wait to try him tbh I haven't used him yet. Seeing and hearing great things tho.


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    #1620
    TITANIUM.
    Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    Farrell wrote: »
    Nice calf, but plain cows can have hidden genes

    Oh don't worry I know her genes inside and out. I breed all my own replacements so I can remember her line going back a long long way.


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    #1621
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    Farrell wrote: »
    AGZ is a mighty looking bull alright, what about that GPD?

    I cant wait to try him tbh I haven't used him yet. Seeing and hearing great things tho.

    Looking forward to using AGZ?
    OK. If you like hardship.......


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