Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

charolais0153

simx wrote: »

What would ye suggest as an easy calving Bb for dairy cows lads?

Dbz is your man or rff (I think) off dovea

bogman_bass

simx wrote: »

What would ye suggest as an easy calving Bb for dairy cows lads?

ring PG and see if there are any straws of SRI still about

patsy_mccabe

Had a cow calf to OKH. Fine bull calf, went a few days over, but not exactly small. Would be slow to use him on heifers.

milligan2

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Had a cow calf to OKH. Fine bull calf, went a few days over, but not exactly small. Would be slow to use him on heifers.

Had a 30 month heifer calve OKH a couple of weeks ago and she spat him out without me being there even though I was watching her closely.
His calving diff figure is a little high but the AI man said he hasn't seen any problems with him

Bigbird1

Anyone here have any or have seen any calves from the charolais bull crosmolina jupiter from dovea, i like the look of him. Thanks

Lady Haywire

Bigbird1 wrote: »

Anyone here have any or have seen any calves from the charolais bull crosmolina jupiter from dovea, i like the look of him. Thanks

Only have one so far but a nice sort of heifer. Came quite big though so I wouldn't put him on anything too fleshy or young. There's a photo of her from about 2 months ago in the photo thread.

annubis

had a nice pb heifer calf this evening from alwent goldbar, my first one off him, straw was pricey around 40 euros i think so happy enough.nice calf now, cow calved herself

Never wrestle with pigs

Bought a few nice first calvers with 2/3 week old zag heifers at foot. Look like nice calves. Never had any zag how do they go? Nice at a few months old or do they take a while to develop?

tanko

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Bought a few nice first calvers with 2/3 week old zag heifers at foot. Look like nice calves. Never had any zag how do they go? Nice at a few months old or do they take a while to develop?

ZAG breeds nice calves, plenty of shape to them after a few months. Looks like he's a very good bull, it will be interesting to see if his heifers have any milk, time will tell on that.

patsy_mccabe

tanko wrote: »

ZAG breeds nice calves, plenty of shape to them after a few months. Looks like he's a very good bull, it will be interesting to see if his heifers have any milk, time will tell on that.

He should have loads of milk. He's by APM who's proven for milk. Dam is by ronick hawk, one of the best in breed for milk. Grand Dam also well proven now too.

Never wrestle with pigs

Not so bad. They are off nice lim x sim heifers that look for milk also, might be keepers.

charolais0153

furandfeather wrote: »

The father has a VCR cow out of a simmental. She's the best cow in the place, never got less than a grand for her calves

How did your major heifer turn out

furandfeather

charolais0153 wrote: »

How did your major heifer turn out

Ah she's a good square heifer. She seemed to have a lot more muscle when she was younger. She went back a good bit when I weaned her but she seems to be coming again the last month or so.

I can't see her being overly big but maybe she ll prove me wrong. Hope to bull her around Patricks day

Mac Taylor

Anyone have experience of the limousin bulls teddy (txe) and mereside favouri (Fzf) I have one due heifer from Fzf and she is a nice heifer but not sure what she will be like for milk.

Bigbird1

Mac Taylor wrote: »

Anyone have experience of the limousin bulls teddy (txe) and mereside favouri (Fzf) I have one due heifer from Fzf and she is a nice heifer but not sure what she will be like for milk.

FZF is meant to be leavin cows with loads of milk. In sayin that i havent seen any off him

tanko

I have three FZF heifers in calf to the Saler bull Highfield Odhran, two of them are off very milky cows, they're not calving til March and April.

cacs

Mac Taylor wrote: »

Anyone have experience of the limousin bulls teddy (txe) and mereside favouri (Fzf) I have one due heifer from Fzf and she is a nice heifer but not sure what she will be like for milk.

My stock bull is out of proctors caviller Lm. He has a milk score of 4.87kg on icbf replacement index of 122 i think and 114 terminal. I have big hopes for his heifers. Has anyone used proctors cavillier

adne

cathal irwin wrote: »

My stock bull is out of proctors caviller Lm. He has a milk score of 4.87kg on icbf replacement index of 122 i think and 114 terminal. I have big hopes for his heifers. Has anyone used proctors cavillier

Anyone got calves out of zch carrowreagh hondorus. Calving diff looks high for a lim but breeding looks good

The Real Elmer Fudd

Any calves on the ground from LM2014 from Dovea??

charolais0153

I'm really impressed with the tvr calf we had .she calved herself and he sucked .was a little nervous as she wasn't getting sick normally but everything worked out . he lives up to the bill imo

tanko

adne wrote: »

Anyone got calves out of zch carrowreagh hondorus. Calving diff looks high for a lim but breeding looks good

Had one bull calf here off him last spring. Real good calf with plenty of size and shape and good docility. He must be giving plenty of bother at calving for his CD to be so high, this is going to ruin his Eurostar figures which is obsessed with rewarding easy calved bulls.
Heifers off him should be good for milk and have good calving ability, time will tell i suppose. I won't use him again, maybe something like KZH would be a better ON-Dit son to try but i don't know anything about him.

Dunedin

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Bought a few nice first calvers with 2/3 week old zag heifers at foot. Look like nice calves. Never had any zag how do they go? Nice at a few months old or do they take a while to develop?

Any trouble calving. I am thinking of putting to heifers this week

Who2

charolais0153 wrote: »

I'm really impressed with the tvr calf we had .she calved herself and he sucked .was a little nervous as she wasn't getting sick normally but everything worked out . he lives up to the bill imo

throw up a few pics of cow and calf. ive yet to see a bad calf out of tvr. how many calves has your cow had or did you just take the gamble on him.

charolais0153

Who2 wrote: »

throw up a few pics of cow and calf. ive yet to see a bad calf out of tvr. how many calves has your cow had or did you just take the gamble on him.

That was her third...she's by pio and is best cow width wise at pins. He's not really putting back an end yet but has a great top line and length. Ten days old now

adne

tanko wrote: »

Had one bull calf here off him last spring. Real good calf with plenty of size and shape and good docility. He must be giving plenty of bother at calving for his CD to be so high, this is going to ruin his Eurostar figures which is obsessed with rewarding easy calved bulls.
Heifers off him should be good for milk and have good calving ability, time will tell i suppose. I won't use him again, maybe something like KZH would be a better ON-Dit son to try but i don't know anything about him.

Any reason you dont plan to use again. Ya the CD is so high his stars will drop

tanko

adne wrote: »

Any reason you dont plan to use again. Ya the CD is so high his stars will drop

I'd be worried about possible calving problems, it's as simple as that.
Right or wrong i don't use Bulls over 7% CD.

charolais0153

Cow and tvr calf

patsy_mccabe

I have a bull calf by OKH (KELTIC HANDSOME) and he's shaping up nicely. Looks to be growth also.

adne

tanko wrote: »

I'd be worried about possible calving problems, it's as simple as that.
Right or wrong i don't use Bulls over 7% CD.

Thanks. Thats as good a reason as there is.
Im condidering zch and fzf for a few cows

adne

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I have a bull calf by OKH (KELTIC HANDSOME) and he's shaping up nicely. Looks to be growth also.

Have him on a real good dancer heifer due in feb. Howd u find him size wise at calving