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Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

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    #2552
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Just looking at Munster AI book
    It mentions Cavelands Levi should have calves on the ground in Autumn.
    Has anyone any calves & how are they?


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    #2553
    RobinBanks
    Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    Lady Haywire wrote: »
    While on the subject of calving, anyone any ZXT calves? One due in a month & she's heavy looking.

    Ive only had 1 ZXT calf but very easy calving. It was a heifer calf weighing 35kg from a blonde cow. Calf developed into a nice muscly weanling but was always small


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    #2554
    TPF2012
    Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭TPF2012


    Is Highfield Odran gone, I dont see him on progressive's website?


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    #2555
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,259 ✭✭✭tanko


    TPF2012 wrote: »
    Is Highfield Odran gone, I dont see him on progressive's website?

    Looks like he's gone, your Ai technician might have straws off him or maybe your local NCBC rep might be able to get you some straws.
    Have you any calves off him??


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    #2556
    TPF2012
    Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭TPF2012


    tanko wrote: »
    Looks like he's gone, your Ai technician might have straws off him or maybe your local NCBC rep might be able to get you some straws.
    Have you any calves off him??

    Not yet, have two heifer in calf to him. I was hoping to try him on a few more heifers. Any other good alternatives, want easy calving and trying to stay away from aa. Use progressive mostly.


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    #2557
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,259 ✭✭✭tanko


    TPF2012 wrote: »
    Not yet, have two heifer in calf to him. I was hoping to try him on a few more heifers. Any other good alternatives, want easy calving and trying to stay away from aa. Use progressive mostly.

    PG have orher Saler bulls but i dont know much about them
    Highfield Odrans sire Valliant (VTA) is very easy calved. Bova have him.


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    #2558
    GiantPencil
    Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭GiantPencil


    Could also try Lataster Eric LZR. Have used him on heifers and he brought good height and length so would use on more beefy bloodlines. Bonaparte is the only other one I can think of in the PG book that would be commercially available but I wouldn't be gone on him looking at his stars.


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    #2559
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Bit of an update on calf. Still holding leg.he puts barely any weight on it at all. Vet wont put cast on till at least two weeks of age. Thriving well though


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    #2560
    High bike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,454 ✭✭✭High bike


    TPF2012 wrote: »
    Not yet, have two heifer in calf to him. I was hoping to try him on a few more heifers. Any other good alternatives, want easy calving and trying to stay away from aa. Use progressive mostly.
    have a couple of maidens to calve to him in March at 24 mts,why is he gone?


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    #2561
    FeelTheBern
    Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭FeelTheBern


    Looking at stockbull off Cavelands Fenian (LZF) - anyone any feedback?


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    #2562
    TITANIUM.
    Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    FeelTheBern wrote: »
    Looking at stockbull off Cavelands Fenian (LZF) - anyone any feedback?

    Easy enough calved while bringing decent stuff.
    But won't have two many show strippers unless you've very shapely cows


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    #2563
    annubis
    Registered Users Posts: 432 ✭✭annubis


    bought some goldstar ludwig and cavelands levi off gene ireland, only fiver a straw so how bad


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    #2564
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    annubis wrote: »
    bought some goldstar ludwig and cavelands levi off gene ireland, only fiver a straw so how bad
    Impressive looking bulls, they’re on the website awhile, wonder if there is any calves on the ground or close to it


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    #2565
    annubis
    Registered Users Posts: 432 ✭✭annubis


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Impressive looking bulls, they’re on the website awhile, wonder if there is any calves on the ground or close to it
    ya its a good while since i ordered them but they were only delivered recently, was surprised they hadnt been snapped up already when i ordered


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    #2566
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    FeelTheBern wrote: »
    Looking at stockbull off Cavelands Fenian (LZF) - anyone any feedback?

    Good square animals that are easy calved.
    Have a great pb charolais heifer of him atm


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    #2567
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    charolais0153 wrote: »
    Good square animals that are easy calved.
    Have a great pb charolais heifer of him atm

    What’s she like for hip width?


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    #2568
    Bigbird1
    Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Bigbird1


    FeelTheBern wrote: »
    Looking at stockbull off Cavelands Fenian (LZF) - anyone any feedback?

    Breeds decent looking char calves. Heard somewhere he hasnt the double muscle gene, so is a safer bet on shapier cows.


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    #2569
    Bigbird1
    Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Bigbird1


    Anyone use this guy. Lovely looking bull


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    #2570
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Bigbird1 wrote: »
    Anyone use this guy. Lovely looking bull

    Dovea have a few lovely charolais new bulls


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    #2571
    Who2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭Who2


    Bigbird1 wrote: »
    Anyone use this guy. Lovely looking bull
    He looks to have everything appearance wise except length imo.


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    #2572
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Who2 wrote: »
    He looks to have everything appearance wise except length imo.
    Great bloodline, Pirate, CF52 & Jupiter Dam is full sister to Ashleigh Victor / Admiral.


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    #2573
    Bigbird1
    Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Bigbird1


    Ya the dam is breeding very well to different sires too


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    #2574
    annubis
    Registered Users Posts: 432 ✭✭annubis


    have 2 x pirate straws in tank, nearly afraid to use them in case cow doesnt keep. have a good 52 cow, wondering if i should flush her and use the straws..have never had anything flushed so not too well up on it


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    #2575
    FeelTheBern
    Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭FeelTheBern


    charolais0153 wrote: »
    Good square animals that are easy calved.
    Have a great pb charolais heifer of him atm

    Thanks. Looking at a bull by Pirate as well. The CD figures for the Pirate and LZF bull are both around 7.3%. LZF lad much bigger bull. Wondering if Pirate lad would be more guaranteed easy calving even though CD for both similar?


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    #2576
    TITANIUM.
    Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    FeelTheBern wrote: »
    Thanks. Looking at a bull by Pirate as well. The CD figures for the Pirate and LZF bull are both around 7.3%. LZF lad much bigger bull. Wondering if Pirate lad would be more guaranteed easy calving even though CD for both similar?

    Id say LES is just a growther bull iykwim.
    I've used him on blue cows no bother. Of the 2 I would agree the pirate calves were handler alright. I wouldn't worry about either of um TBH so long as you have any kind of pre calving treatment for your cows


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    #2577
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Bigbird1 wrote: »
    Anyone use this guy. Lovely looking bull
    I think He looks better in the picture from the 2016 Cracker
    http://charolais.ie/2016/12/05/christmas-cracker-show-sale-report-2016/


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    #2578
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    I think He looks better in the picture from the 2016 Cracker
    http://charolais.ie/2016/12/05/christmas-cracker-show-sale-report-2016/

    He looks very low.


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    #2579
    Centrepassage
    Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Centrepassage


    Don't think he is that low. Seen him a few times. Bred in East Clare by department of agriculture Inspector. Has super stock.


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    #2580
    Sligoronan
    Registered Users Posts: 178 ✭✭Sligoronan


    Little dose this lady know her boyfriend ZAG has a calling difficulty of 4.5%.
    Due on the 27th.


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    #2581
    Who2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭Who2


    Has anyone here got any heifers calved or calving out of the blue bull greystones governor or the si bull fifty cent or the part bull bourvil? ive a share of second calvers i was going to chance the blue on and around 15 heifers i was going to chance the part and si on. most would be limo with sh and si breeding, well grown and should be averaging 500 kg for bulling. il be running a limo bull to clean up and my main stock bull is limo, so i wanted to throw a bit of change into the mix. Bulls are usually but not always sold as weanlings and heifers are kept for breeding if i like them and if not they might be sold or finished, all depends on stocking and finances. anyway if anyone has first hnd experience could they please share.


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