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patsy_mccabe · 21-12-2017 10:58pm

RobinBanks wrote: »

No recent one but this was taken in summer

If you could get in and measure her pelvic opening, you'd be in a better position to judge.

Hard Knocks · 21-12-2017 11:37pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

If you could get in and measure her pelvic opening, you'd be in a better position to judge.

Would hip width make a difference too

Hard Knocks · 22-12-2017 12:32am

FeelTheBern wrote: »

Anyone have any feedback on the Charolais bull Goldstar Echo (GHX)? Would he be anywhere near the level of Pirate or Fiston?

Never used him & don’t think he’s available anymore
Should be easy calved he’s out of Texan Gie & a CF52 dam.

patsy_mccabe · 22-12-2017 10:06am

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Would hip width make a difference too

If the external width of the hips was good, you would be confident that the opening inside was good too. But you never know.

RD10 · 22-12-2017 5:09pm

Someone was asking about the sim bull fifty cent.
Have a calf from him off a big charlaois cow, calf born very small and hardy, growing and filling out v.well

TITANIUM. · 22-12-2017 5:28pm

RobinBanks wrote: »

No recent one but this was taken in summer

Lovely heifer. Put ZAG on her. She'll calve him.

Who2 · 22-12-2017 5:45pm

I'd have to agree with zag, I've calved heifers far more muscle no hassle than her. Get your silage man to handle her he should know. Any chance you'd sell her?

RobinBanks · 22-12-2017 7:23pm

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Lovely heifer. Put ZAG on her. She'll calve him.

I have a 2nd calver incalf to Zag but she's a completely different heifer to this one even though both are out of Germinal.

I've seen some lovely Zag cattle but is it true ya need a fairly tall cow for him?

RobinBanks · 22-12-2017 7:27pm

Who2 wrote: »

I'd have to agree with zag, I've calved heifers far more muscle no hassle than her. Get your silage man to handle her he should know. Any chance you'd sell her?

That's good to know. I suppose most of my cows are plain enough so going down the muscly route is new to me.

This is her sister from this year but out of imperial. I've her kept aswell with a couple other weanling heifers for breeding

DEP cow in background.

Pidae.m · 22-12-2017 9:28pm

RobinBanks wrote: »

No recent one but this was taken in summer

What a beaut.

Bigbird1 · 22-12-2017 9:50pm

RobinBanks wrote: »

That's good to know. I suppose most of my cows are plain enough so going down the muscly route is new to me.

This is her sister from this year but out of imperial. I've her kept aswell with a couple other weanling heifers for breeding

DEP cow in background.

Lovely sort of blue cow that, but i think the imperial is too extreme in shape.

Who2 · 22-12-2017 11:54pm

RobinBanks wrote: »

That's good to know. I suppose most of my cows are plain enough so going down the muscly route is new to me.

This is her sister from this year but out of imperial. I've her kept aswell with a couple other weanling heifers for breeding

DEP cow in background.

That's my sort of animal. Just making sure they are wide enough is the issue. I'd be fond of limo on them blonde too but you can get the odd bull calf that carries over and wrecks an animal

Hard Knocks · 23-12-2017 9:31am

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

If external width of the hips was good, you would be confident that the opening inside was good too. But you never know.

Have a heifer good pelvic length but narrow hip width.
What’s the option

TITANIUM. · 23-12-2017 11:39am

RobinBanks wrote: »

I have a 2nd calver incalf to Zag but she's a completely different heifer to this one even though both are out of Germinal.

I've seen some lovely Zag cattle but is it true ya need a fairly tall cow for him?

I haven't had that problem with him . And it won't really matter if your selling them as weanlings. I find the fiston calves can get caught for height alright. Particularly the heavily muscled one.

squinn2912 · 23-12-2017 1:26pm

Just the one zag calf last year for us on a heifer. Wound up a side door job but I think more to do with her. She opened up very little. Bulled to stock bull now. Super bull calf

patsy_mccabe · 23-12-2017 10:53pm

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Have a heifer good pelvic length but narrow hip width.
What’s the option

Well the calf has to come through here.

Never wrestle with pigs · 23-12-2017 11:01pm

Isl bull calf born today, unassisted. Lovely heifer by him born yesterday I'll get a pic of her tomorrow. Any I had are born small and grow like feck. Suits a short muscled cow. I almost think his cd of %7 is to hard on him. I'd nearly chance him on a strong heifer.

furandfeather · 24-12-2017 10:19am

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Isl bull calf born today, unassisted. Lovely heifer by him born yesterday I'll get a pic of her tomorrow. Any I had are born small and grow like feck. Suits a short muscled cow. I almost think his cd of %7 is to hard on him. I'd nearly chance him on a strong heifer.

I've used him on heifers and never had a problem. They all seem to come with the really tight curly hair which some buyers don't seem to like, doesn't bother me though.

RobinBanks · 25-12-2017 9:56am

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Isl Lovely heifer by him born yesterday.

An early xmas present!!

essgee268 · 25-12-2017 8:40pm

has any one any heifer by ISL calved and how are they

Who2 · 30-12-2017 8:06pm

Has anyone any calves off tomschoice iceberg or curaheen gunshot? I'll be real cheeky and if they do could they throw up pics with the dams. Cheers.

Lady Haywire · 30-12-2017 8:07pm

Who2 wrote: »

Has anyone any calves off tomschoice iceberg or curaheen gunshot? I'll be real cheeky and if they do could they throw up pics with the dams. Cheers.

Have an iceberg due in a week to an ERE dam so should be an interesting cross!

Who2 · 30-12-2017 8:16pm

I just put iceberg on a ion heifer and a nin heifer. Got greedy and stuck gunshot on a sh heifer by jfz. Here's hoping for a heifer calf.

Lady Haywire · 30-12-2017 8:23pm

Who2 wrote: »

I just put iceberg on a ion heifer and a nin heifer. Got greedy and stuck gunshot on a sh heifer by jfz. Here's hoping for a heifer calf.

Should be good crosses, esp the sh one! Hopefully Icebergs figures don't jump up and down too much, he has decent breeding.

valtra2 · 30-12-2017 11:49pm

Have a few to tomchoice jet to calf next month. Have friend who has few of him and is very impressed with him

The Real Elmer Fudd · 30-12-2017 11:53pm

Who2 wrote: »

Has anyone any calves off tomschoice iceberg or curaheen gunshot? I'll be real cheeky and if they do could they throw up pics with the dams. Cheers.

I have 4 in calf to curaheen gunshot but the first of them isn’t due until the end of feb. I put him on 3 sim cows and 1 sim x ch. looking forward to seeing what kinda calf he throws, he’s a lovely looking bull with good figures to match

Who2 · 31-12-2017 2:38pm

I've a pedigree mas de Clo second calver bulling this morning. Any suggestions on what to put on her? Bova or dovea for ai, I thought she had gone in calf already but doesn't look like it.

patsy_mccabe · 31-12-2017 4:20pm

Who2 wrote: »

I've a pedigree mas de Clo second calver bulling this morning. Any suggestions on what to put on her? Bova or dovea for ai, I thought she had gone in calf already but doesn't look like it.

I take it she's purebred. I really like the look of the Bova bull Excel (LM4017). Haven't used him yet, but might next year. Very correct looking bull with good figures.

https://webapp.icbf.com/bull-search/view/1352137684

Who2 · 31-12-2017 8:54pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I take it she's purebred. I really like the look of the Bova bull Excel (LM4017). Haven't used him yet, but might next year. Very correct looking bull with good figures.

https://webapp.icbf.com/bull-search/view/1352137684

I hadn't paid much attention to that bull but he looks a good option, she's ai'd with him now, thanks for the suggestion.

patsy_mccabe · 31-12-2017 9:13pm

Hope he works out for you. Does your AI guy carry Bova straws?

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