Irish people and time keeping...

aaronjumper

I was going to reply to this earlier but *insert pun here*

Biedronka

Animord wrote: »

Its ok, I'm TOTALLY on your side now - the person I am meeting is LATE! :mad:

But hey, I'll have a glass of wine and if his dinner is burnt then so be it!:p

-if you cook for somebody who is late -just drink everything, eat your's, eat or burn his and let him cook next time and be 2 hours late (eat out something nice during that time). :pac:

Tiocfaidh Armani

Biedronka wrote: »

In Poland, but there is so many Irish people here already, they just keep coming but they are all late. :rolleyes:

200k of you in this tiny state, can't be that bad a place, don't see us rushing to move to your sh*thole of a country.

Biedronka

Tiocfaidh Armani wrote: »

200k of you in this tiny state, can't be that bad a place, don't see us rushing to move to your sh*thole of a country.

-wow :rolleyes:

hmm, it is not such a sh*thole you know, its over 3 times bigger then Ireland, there are mountains, there is sea, there are beautiful historical towns..

Animord

Tiocfaidh Armani wrote: »

200k of you in this tiny state, can't be that bad a place, don't see us rushing to move to your sh*thole of a country.

Charming. And of course the Irish never went anywhere in order to try and better their lot. :rolleyes:

Millicent

Tiocfaidh Armani wrote: »

200k of you in this tiny state, can't be that bad a place, don't see us rushing to move to your sh*thole of a country.

That's just unnecessary. You're not exactly a great ambassador for the country.

coonecb1

I do tend to be a latecomer, but have been recently trying to change

I was raised by parents to not arrive to school until a few minutes before it started, even though I always wanted to be there early.

That's my excuse for being naturally late anyway! Like I said, I'm making an effort to change!

Abi

Biedronka wrote: »

-hmm, I wouldn't be so sure with all that rain and darkness.. I love Ireland, but I wouldn't say it is not depressing sometimes... in Poland you get hot summer and white winter at least its is brighter..

/sets trap


Ah yes, but our swans taste better.




*waits* o_o

Biedronka

Millicent wrote: »

That's just unnecessary. You're not exactly a great ambassador for the country.

Don't worry you are all great and welcoming and the only time in 6 years I felt I am not welcomed here was when I heard from man at gate at Shannon airport:
"you can all go home -I don't mind" (after I was saying bye to my Mum who was here on holidays -which she loved and I asked him to show her direction).

(I was glad she didn't understand that comment)

Abi - I am vegetarian.

Millicent

Biedronka wrote: »

Don't worry you are all great and welcoming and the only time in 6 years I felt I am not welcomed here was when I heard from man at gate at Shannon airport:
"you can all go home -I don't mind" (after I was saying bye to my Mum who was here on holidays -which she loved and I asked him to show her direction).

(I was glad she didn't understand that comment)

Abi - I am vegetarian.

Ah, he was what is known round these parts as a "dickhead" or a "gobsh1te". They're all over the world, sadly.

Tiocfaidh Armani

Animord wrote: »

Charming. And of course the Irish never went anywhere in order to try and better their lot. :rolleyes:

I've done it myself but I don't go about slagging off the natives and making out their all lazy work sky idiots who can't work a clock either. My problem is not someone coming to Ireland, it's his/her attitude generalising about Irish people I have a problem with.

Abi

Biedronka wrote: »

Abi - I am vegetarian.

Dammit. Foiled.

/punches palm



How about a Quorn swan sammich? :pac:

Biedronka

Millicent wrote: »

They're all over the world, sadly.

I know, thats why I said you are great (I am sure there would be much more xenophobia and nationalism in Poland with that many imigrants.

Tiocfaidh Armani

Biedronka wrote: »

I know, thats why I said you are great (I am sure there would be much more xenophobia and nationalism in Poland with that many imigrants.

Eh, listen pal you're the one spouting the ignorant generalisations about Irish people like we're all too dumb to work a clock, don't be pulling the victim card.

Biedronka

Tiocfaidh Armani wrote: »

it's her attitude generalising about Irish people I have a problem with.

-I think I said just as many or more nice things about Irish people as bad things and I mentioned as well that I know its not everyone, but this is my experience recently.

Tiocfaidh Armani

Biedronka wrote: »

-I think I said just as many or more nice things about Irish people as bad things and I mentioned as well that I know its not everyone, but this is my experience recently.

I'll start a thread generalising about Polish people and see how long that thread lasts and see the same people defending you call me a racist. I don't see why it's okay for people to come out with racist generalisations about Irish people that we can basically can't work a clock or keep time when it was about a foreign nationality it would be racist.

Dudess

Tiocfaidh Armani wrote: »

it's his/her attitude generalising about Irish people I have a problem with.

Tiocfaidh Armani wrote: »

don't see us rushing to move to your sh*thole of a country.

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Yahew

Oh FFS. If she or he were German would we mind so much? I mean we know the German's are more punctual, right? I suppose the Poles are too. We are not. Or rather certain groups - like plumbers are not. This is hardly the worst criticism ever laid against the Irish. Why so uppity?

Biedronka

Read your above posts quoted by Dudess and think why if you have a problem just with me you are calling my country a shi*thole...

Dudess

Tiocfaidh Armani wrote: »

I'll start a thread generalising about Polish people and see how long that thread lasts and see the same people defending you call me a racist. I don't see why it's okay for people to come out with racist generalisations about Irish people that we can basically can't work a clock or keep time when it was about a foreign nationality it would be racist.

The OP is referring to ONE thing - you're the one making up other sh1t (about us being lazy and work-shy and unable to use a clock) and attributing it to the OP. It's based on the OP's own observations - a laid-back attitude here to time-keeping, which is true. Just because the OP highlights this one thing doesn't mean they've a problem with Ireland/the Irish overall - again, that's just you jumping to a conclusion, and they've said plenty of good things about us.
I'm sure you've made generalisations about other nationalities - the English for example, no doubt.

hondasam

Dudess wrote: »

The OP is referring to ONE thing - you're the one making up other sh1t (about us being lazy and work-shy and unable to use a clock) and attributing it to the OP. It's based on the OP's own observations - a laid-back attitude here to time-keeping, which is true. Just because the OP highlights this one thing doesn't mean they've a problem with Ireland/the Irish overall - again, that's just you jumping to a conclusion, and they've said plenty of good things about us.
I'm sure you've made generalisations about other nationalities - the English for example, no doubt.

tbf the op is not referring to one thing in her op, she has criticised several things and '' what is wrong with most of ye'' is what annoyed me.
Personally I am a stickler for time, hate to be late.

Evaex

hondasam wrote: »

tbf the op is not referring to one thing in her op, she has criticised several things and '' what is wrong with most of ye'' is what annoyed me.
Personally I am a stickler for time, hate to be late.

Polish people are too busy sponging off the state to care about time-keeping. Same as the Nigerians, with their medical cards, rent allowance, time-keeping, back to school allowance, unmarried mother allownance, etc.

The Polish people are usually too f*cked on vodka too. I suppose that's better than driving dodgy taxi's and being generally ignorant like the Nigerians are.

Mod note: user banned

Millicent

Evaex wrote: »

Polish people are too busy sponging off the state to care about time-keeping. Same as the Nigerians, with their medical cards, rent allowance, time-keeping, back to school allowance, unmarried mother allownance, etc.

The Polish people are usually too f*cked on vodka too. I suppose that's better than driving dodgy taxi's and being generally ignorant like the Nigerians are.

I hope your folks are proud of the person you became. Wow.

cup of tea

Sorry I'm going to be a bit late, I'm stuck behind 2 tractors.

coonecb1

Evaex wrote: »

Polish people are too busy sponging off the state to care about time-keeping. Same as the Nigerians, with their medical cards, rent allowance, time-keeping, back to school allowance, unmarried mother allownance, etc.

The Polish people are usually too f*cked on vodka too. I suppose that's better than driving dodgy taxi's and being generally ignorant like the Nigerians are.

Have to say I haven't met a single Polish person that fits the description you provided above. I don't know what you're basing that on exactly

Nigerians are a LOT different than Polish people, in every possible way

coonecb1

It's funny, I'm supposed to meet a mate at 8.00 tonight, he just texted to say he'd be 10 minutes late.....:)

Tiocfaidh Armani

coonecb1 wrote: »

Have to say I haven't met a single Polish person that fits the description you provided above. I don't know what you're basing that on exactly

Nigerians are a LOT different than Polish people, in every possible way

He was being sarcastic, he's not being serious.

Millicent

coonecb1 wrote: »

Nigerians are a LOT different than Polish people, in every possible way

Yes, for example, they don't even come from the same country.

Let's not encourage any discrimination to either group, eh?

Chuck Stone

Evaex wrote: »

Polish people are too busy sponging off the state to care about time-keeping. Same as the Nigerians, with their medical cards, rent allowance, time-keeping, back to school allowance, unmarried mother allownance, etc.

The Polish people are usually too f*cked on vodka too. I suppose that's better than driving dodgy taxi's and being generally ignorant like the Nigerians are.

!!!!!!!

Abi

Thread.

Chuck Stone

coonecb1 wrote: »

Nigerians are a LOT different than Polish people, in every possible way

All 158,423,180 Nigerians are a lot different to 38,187,488 Poles?

Or just the ones you noticed...

Yahew

Millicent wrote: »

Yes, for example, they don't even come from the same country.

Let's not encourage any discrimination to either group, eh?

Though to be fair, given the nature of this thread, calling Nigerians bad timekeepers must be ok.

Millicent

Yahew wrote: »

Though to be fair, given the nature of this thread, calling Nigerians bad timekeepers must be ok.

It'll be okay when you live in Nigeria and can make that outside observation.

hondasam

All this because the op did not want to sit and wait for the,delivery man, plumbers, electricians, babysitter.
Some people just have no patience.

Yahew

Millicent wrote: »

It'll be okay when you live in Nigeria and can make that outside observation.

A strange rule. Of course I don't know if they are bad timekeepers or not.

Yahew

hondasam wrote: »

All this because the op did not want to sit and wait for the,delivery man, plumbers, electricians, babysitter.
Some people just have no patience.

its a perfectly valid complaint. However its not just Irish, I can speak for the mediterranean countries, but the UK is - if not quite as bad - bad enough.

Why are plumbers exempt from normal rules? Or internet providers. When there are meetings I have to go to across London I get there on time, or call if a few minutes late. Thats true of people who have to the company I work for too. A 4 pm meeting starts at 4pm.

Except it doesn't always happen, not for plumber or internet providers. Why?

gbee

Biedronka wrote: »

From now on I will not let in anybody who is over 5 minutes late, thats it. :mad:

No, this is not an argument for your thesis. You're given a time period, that's not Irish.

What is Irish is 'when God made time he made plenty of it' and people just not turning up at all.

I left business's because of this, there was I working on a car and the boss came over to give me a hand and I realised that he had to see a fleet manager about a contract so I asked him about it.

He looked at his watch and said, It's noon now, so I need to go to the noon meeting. He did not set off until the time arrived for him to go there ~ another hour to destination ~~

NOW: I can reveal the real reason for this: My Boss, just like most civil servants in this country, used to be a SCHOOL TEACHER: now the penny drops; as time goes by I realise that 99% of the Irish population were school teachers and thus they would not PREPARE for anything until the bell went for the next class.

You and I set off an hour before the appointment and add on extra time for weather, road works, diversions, accidents potentiality, breakdowns and loo stops and much more too, but. end.

coonecb1

Chuck Stone wrote: »

All 158,423,180 Nigerians are a lot different to 38,187,488 Poles?

Or just the ones you noticed...

Oh come on! A certain level of generalisation of nationalities is reasonable in order to "keep it real" so to speak. Otherwise we might delude ourselves that everyone is the same, when it's clearly not the case.

To answer your question, it's just the ones I've noticed / met. But I'm sure the ones I've met are in no way representative of the countries they come from :rolleyes:

Geekness1234

Biedronka wrote: »

-wow :rolleyes:

hmm, it is not such a sh*thole you know, its over 3 times bigger then Ireland, there are mountains, there is sea, there are beautiful historical towns..

Bigger isn't always better.
Ireland is an Island.
There are beautiful historic towns in virtually every country.
Not starting a flame war by the way.

Yahew

gbee wrote: »

NOW: I can reveal the real reason for this: My Boss, just like most civil servants in this country, used to be a SCHOOL TEACHER: now the penny drops; as time goes by I realise that 99% of the Irish population were school teachers and thus they would not PREPARE for anything until the bell went for the next class.

You and I set off an hour before the appointment and add on extra time for weather, road works, diversions, accidents potentiality, breakdowns and loo stops and much more too, but. end.

Hmm, an over-generalisation for sure on school teachers. Mine tended to turn up on time. This is largely a private sector issue for certain self employed groups.

Its a funny cultural trait, and hardly universal in Irish business because large companies, in fact most companies run meetings on time ( obviously we are not exact when socialising either but that is not what the OP is mainly talking about).

As I said the tardiness is certain self-employed groups ( Internet providers being the large company exception).

Generally there is some cause to this kind of thing, some kind of economic signalling. I wonder if turning up on time gives the impression of not being busy.

gbee

Geekness1234 wrote: »

Ireland is an Island..

Myth. Ireland is a land mass ~ actually too big to be called an Island in reality.

Yahew

gbee wrote: »

Myth. Ireland is a land mass ~ actually too big to be called an Island in reality.

Dudess

gbee wrote: »

No, this is not an argument for your thesis. You're given a time period, that's not Irish.

What is Irish is 'when God made time he made plenty of it' and people just not turning up at all.

I left business's because of this, there was I working on a car and the boss came over to give me a hand and I realised that he had to see a fleet manager about a contract so I asked him about it.

He looked at his watch and said, It's noon now, so I need to go to the noon meeting. He did not set off until the time arrived for him to go there ~ another hour to destination ~~

NOW: I can reveal the real reason for this: My Boss, just like most civil servants in this country, used to be a SCHOOL TEACHER: now the penny drops; as time goes by I realise that 99% of the Irish population were school teachers and thus they would not PREPARE for anything until the bell went for the next class.

You and I set off an hour before the appointment and add on extra time for weather, road works, diversions, accidents potentiality, breakdowns and loo stops and much more too, but. end.

Meaningless drivel - as usual.

Abi

Dudess wrote: »

Meaningless drivel - as usual.

I'm actually more surprised that this thread is still open. A bit of back and forth rib-digging jokingly is one thing. The racism here is both appalling, and actually quite embarrassing.

hondasam

Abi wrote: »

I'm actually more surprised that this thread is still open. A bit of back and forth rib-digging jokingly is one thing. The racism here is both appalling, and actually quite embarrassing.

The op is not completely innocent either Abi.
Racism might be a bit strong imo.

Shattered Dreamer

gbee wrote: »

Myth. Ireland is a land mass ~ actually too big to be called an Island in reality.

For starters gbee, wtf?


I love the way any time we Irish get called on our bullsh*t as a nation eg drinking too much, swearing too much, being racist, being bad time keepers, we tend to find another race of people to call worse.

Biedronka, as an Irish person I apologize for the fact good time keeping isn't a part if an Irish person's skill but you have 2 options

1. Give your clients a time maybe 30mins before you really want them to turn up
2. Leave Ireland

gbee

Dudess wrote: »

Meaningless drivel - as usual.

Thank you, I'll award myself a gold star on my forehead.

Geekness1234

Abi wrote: »

I'm actually more surprised that this thread is still open. A bit of back and forth rib-digging jokingly is one thing. The racism here is both appalling, and actually quite embarrassing.

Don't immediately jump to the defence of the OP.:rolleyes:

harrythehat

If you think the Irish are bad, try organising furniture delivery in Arabia!

Yahew

Shattered Dreamer wrote: »

For starters gbee, wtf?


I love the way any time we Irish get called on our bullsh*t as a nation eg drinking too much, swearing too much, being racist, being bad time keepers, we tend to find another race of people to call worse.

Biedronka, as an Irish person I apologize for the fact good time keeping isn't a part if an Irish person's skill but you have 2 options

1. Give your clients a time maybe 30mins before you really want them to turn up
2. Leave Ireland

some of those are inaccurate ( racist? hardly). Fair comment is acceptable.