Hannibal [NBC/Sky Living] [** Spoilers **]

grey_so_what

The Black Oil wrote: »

She didn't hide herself from CCTV. Traceability?

She is making a trail, she is ordering the same thing, every-other day?...

Yep, she is making it easy to find her imo......should need be....:eek:


As she should......

SuprSi

Great opener. Each episode just creates so much atmosphere, it really draws you in. I remember the first time I watched Donny Darko, I was completely engrossed in the whole thing and I get the same thing with each of these episodes - time flies by.

The Black Oil

And let the slaughter begin, 3.02's link back to 2.13 highlights Lecter's blood moustache. A life ambition for many to have one, I'm sure.

Will Graham, as I live and breathe, or just about in his case. Consulting again. And we have our Inspector Pazzi.

The body unfurling was positively disgusting. The whole episode was about presentation - blood, wounds, recovery, death, imagery, Hannibal's trickery, ceilings and art.

Adieu, Abigail.

expectationlost

is this whole season going to be showing chunks of the last, hope we're done now

Puddle Q

Too much imagery not enough plot or story.

SuprSi

Agreed, that episode was too arty. After a very strong first episode this one was disappointing.

Mr E

Not feeling it this year. Episode 3 was pretty bad.

Puddle Q

Mr E wrote: »

Not feeling it this year. Episode 3 was pretty bad.

Something has changed with it - new writers or something? Feels very contained this season. Haven't seen 3 yet but first 2 seem meandering

Chain Smoker

Season finally clicked for me this episode, the move to Europe has allowed the mise en scene to more or less completely abandon reality and be entirely in Hannibal's element. It's an unbelievably ballsy move for network TV, definitely making no attempts whatsoever to attract new viewers and hard enough to follow overall.

The biggest issue this season for me is the time of the year it's airing. Watching Hannibal while the sun's up feels incredibly wrong to me.

duploelabs

Chain Smoker wrote: »

Season finally clicked for me this episode, the move to Europe has allowed the mise en scene to more or less completely abandon reality and be entirely in Hannibal's element. It's an unbelievably ballsy move for network TV, definitely making no attempts whatsoever to attract new viewers and hard enough to follow overall.

The biggest issue this season for me is the time of the year it's airing. Watching Hannibal while the sun's up feels incredibly wrong to me.

Big time, just finished episode 3 there with the curtains closed, so so wrong

The Black Oil

3.03

Welcome back, Jack. 'Borrowed imagination', indeed.

Lithuania bound, with therapy in the woods and Hannibal the patient. There's more than one man in a cage.

Bedelia continues her holding pattern in non-meat territory. Titanic cocktails with suit to match and why not serve an arm while you're at it?

Words of the week - technically and impulsive.

frostyjacks

Not enough Mads in 3.02 for me. Still, makes you appreciate it when he is on screen. The surgery/embalming scene was nicely gruesome. And the camera really captured the beauty of the Palazzo dei Normanni; Hannibal has good taste.

oleras

How did your sister taste ?

A phrase usually only uttered in west Clare.

El Diablo Blanco

It's kinda losing me so far, I have to say, S3. The second episode was typical of some of the show's worst excesses, with overly florid dialogue, self-indulgent imagery and, frankly, very little happened! I'm not someone who needs explosions and action, and all that jazz; I enjoy dialogue-driven scenes, and good character drama. I liked the first two seasons- I'm just not terribly into this.

At one point during the most recent episode on Sky, I was struck by that bit in The Simpsons where Homer suggests that all the other characters should be talking about Poochie when he's not on screen. Seems to be the same with Hannibal in this - obviously, he's the leading man, but it's still so hard to know what to make of Graham half the time. Maybe that's the point - I don't know. Hopefully, it'll get better but, personally, I think the first two episodes have been a bit crap.

kearneybobs

It seems as though they are content with loading on the symbolism etc. Seems to be the same throughout the first three episodes. The first two seasons were not shy about it but this season seems to have taken it to the next level. Almost......annoyingly so.

Still enjoying them immensely but I kind of feel that they could have cut back on the brooding, longing close up shots and maybe condensed the first three episodes into two.
The

ice pick

scene definitely got me by surprise. Mentioned it before but the constant booming background music, although it can really make a scene, is really distracting.

Saying that, still loved this episode.

oleras

NBC not doing a 4th season...:(

The Black Oil

Dammit.

Jon Stark

oleras wrote: »

NBC not doing a 4th season...:(

Ah what? FFS.

Though I do agree with the point made by El Diablo Blanco, this season has gone over the top in the self indulgence with very little story advancement.

I also find Graham's continuing ambiguity towards Hannibal frustrating.

oleras

Jon Stark wrote: »

Ah what? FFS.

Though I do agree with the point made by El Diablo Blanco, this season has gone over the top in the self indulgence with very little story advancement.

I also find Graham's continuing ambiguity towards Hannibal frustrating.

Hopefully Netflix pick it up.

CSI gets 15 years...make you wonder !

I know its all about the viewer figures=add revenue at the end of the day for the large networks, but Hannibal has enough of a fanbase to work on a smaller scale hopefully.

CastorTroy

I stopped after the first episode of this season, but if I hear it gets a proper finale(as much as it can since it has to stay open for the other stories) I will finish it.

ixoy

Thanks a lot American viewers! Stick with your CSI rather than an original, thoughtful and beautifully directed show. Ugh.

Best hope is that, thanks to the Gaumont partnership, it gets shipped elsewhere. More worrying though is that Fuller is tied up adapting the vastly underwhelming 'American Gods' so might not be pushed.

Skerries

GOD DAMMIT!

I think I might invite some tv execs around for dinner!

calabi yau

**** bastards! (nbc that is)

Chain Smoker

You'd have to have been a bit touched to think NBC would be renewing it again after it abandoned all attempts to attract new casual viewers this year. It's by far the strangest show I've seen on any of the commercial US networks (that's CBS, ABC, Fox, NBC and the CW); even with the external funding from Sony and Gaumont, it getting renewed past season one was a huge surprise.

This announcement is kind of weird compared to most cancellations, feels like it's more about Fuller revealing that he's ready to entertain suitors (if there are any) than an declaration of the show's demise. It's a lot more about NBC no longer being tied to it than the show being finished.

sydthebeat

I suppose this proves tv panders to the lowest common denominator.
We get a fantastically creative innovative show and they cancel ..... idiots.

duploelabs

It's nothing to do with viewership, it's the licensing issues with the use of the characters, particularly Claris Starling

Adamocovic

Praying it gets picked up by someone. Would love Netflix to! They do have the previous seasons on Netflix so hopefully something happens.

It's easily one of my favourite shows on tv. I know people are complaining about the strangeness of it but that is one of the things that I love about it.

God dammit America! I'm still dealing with Flash Forward being cancelled! Someone better pick this up!

Adamocovic

duploelabs wrote: »

It's nothing to do with viewership, it's the licensing issues with the use of the characters, particularly Claris Starling

Are you sure? I know that it has been struggling for views. They have been low. I assumed NBC didn't think it was worth the investment due to the presumably high budget and low views.

ixoy

duploelabs wrote: »

It's nothing to do with viewership, it's the licensing issues with the use of the characters, particularly Claris Starling

Source for this? I know they can't use Clarice but that had nothing to do with cancellation from anything I've read. It's the low ratings.

frostyjacks

I love the show, but I don't mind it wrapping up after three series. Better to finish on a high and leave us wanting more than suffer a gradual decline.


It also fits in with the foodie theme; a three course meal if you will.

Adamocovic

frostyjacks wrote: »

I love the show, but I don't mind it wrapping up after three series. Better to finish on a high and leave us wanting more than suffer a gradual decline.


It also fits in with the foodie theme; a three course meal if you will.

I read before that they have a rough timeline of events already done and the planned series length was 6-7 seasons.

I certainly wouldn't like it to be wrapped up now after season 3 with loose ends. I know people are a little skeptical about this season but it's only 3 episodes out of 13.

Personally I would without doubt love for it to be picked up by Netflix or another network and allowed to do 3 more seasons to finish off the story.

Adamocovic

Also presumably they had this season finished before they knew of any canceling so it will more than likely not end on any sort of proper conclusion that could pass as a series finale. There is a high chance it will just end with a cliffhanger and unanswered questions.

ixoy

frostyjacks wrote: »

It also fits in with the foodie theme; a three course meal if you will.

Do you really think Hannibal though would be content with serving a three course meal? He's a man who would want a banquet. We need more courses.

duploelabs

Adamocovic wrote: »

Are you sure? I know that it has been struggling for views. They have been low. I assumed NBC didn't think it was worth the investment due to the presumably high budget and low views.

Very sure. It's been an issue since the shows inception. Watch any of the interviews with Fuller and he mentions it a lot. Imdb and others also quoting that this is the issue behind the cancelling. http://moviepilot.com/posts/2015/06/23/nbc-s-hannibal-has-been-cancelled-after-three-seasons-3329309?lt_source=external,manual

duploelabs

ixoy wrote: »

Source for this? I know they can't use Clarice but that had nothing to do with cancellation from anything I've read. It's the low ratings.

See my post above

Adamocovic

duploelabs wrote: »

Very sure. It's been an issue since the shows inception. Watch any of the interviews with Fuller and he mentions it a lot. Imdb and others also quoting that this is the issue behind the cancelling. http://moviepilot.com/posts/2015/06/23/nbc-s-hannibal-has-been-cancelled-after-three-seasons-3329309?lt_source=external,manual

Interesting, I imagine views would have some what of an impact too since they are very low. Would there be any way around the copyright?

Links234

I actually hate to say this, but 3 episodes into the new season and it's turned from one of the best things on TV by a mile, to one of the most absolute tedious bores. There's some gorgeous scenes, but the show has lost all the momentum it had in the previous seasons, just watching these episodes has felt like a slog, and for a show that has had such an incredible first two seasons, the stark difference can really be felt.

Adamocovic

Links234 wrote: »

I actually hate to say this, but 3 episodes into the new season and it's turned from one of the best things on TV by a mile, to one of the most absolute tedious bores. There's some gorgeous scenes, but the show has lost all the momentum it had in the previous seasons, just watching these episodes has felt like a slog, and for a show that has had such an incredible first two seasons, the stark difference can really be felt.

I'd hold judgement of this season for a little while. Still 10 episodes. Obviously with how it ended last season a lot had to be resolved in the opening of this season so that lead to more setting the show in the direction, or preparing us.

Like many shows it will probably tend to speed up and sucker punch us the further the season goes on. It's now clicking that Hannibal is planning/considering eating Will. He is also close to being found. I reckon it is going to lead to a brilliant season of a cat and mouse sort of style.

I'm not overly worried about the opening episodes as even though they haven't been edge of my seat sort of stuff.

duploelabs

Adamocovic wrote: »

Interesting, I imagine views would have some what of an impact too since they are very low. Would there be any way around the copyright?

I'd say it's just the overheads of 'renting' the characters that's driving up the cost of the production. The buy out clause is too much and the show can't sustain it with the budget provided

Adamocovic

duploelabs wrote: »

I'd say it's just the overheads of 'renting' the characters that's driving up the cost of the production. The buy out clause is too much and the show can't sustain it with the budget provided

From the sounds of the director and production company they are trying to sort something out...but I think we all know that when a show gets cancelled its hard to get it back.

It would be brilliant if someone picked it up but at the same times I'm keeping my expectations down.

duploelabs

Adamocovic wrote: »

From the sounds of the director and production company they are trying to sort something out...but I think we all know that when a show gets cancelled its hard to get it back.

It would be brilliant if someone picked it up but at the same times I'm keeping my expectations down.

Beg to differ, if it's cancelled from one network then another can pick it up who might have a bigger budget to spend. Hopefully this will happen

Adamocovic

duploelabs wrote: »

Beg to differ, if it's cancelled from one network then another can pick it up who might have a bigger budget to spend. Hopefully this will happen

I hope so but it's not the first show I thought someone would definitely pick up and then no one did

I light a candle at my window evey night in hope FlashForward returns

duploelabs

Adamocovic wrote: »

I hope so but it's not the first show I thought someone would definitely pick up and then no one did

I light a candle at my window evey night in hope FlashForward returns

Mine is for Carnival

Adamocovic

duploelabs wrote: »

Mine is for Carnival

Only saw some episodes but looked really interesting

conorhal

duploelabs wrote: »

Beg to differ, if it's cancelled from one network then another can pick it up who might have a bigger budget to spend. Hopefully this will happen

I'm hoping that Netflix will throw some serious moolah at securing the show. They need content, crave prestige and the legitimacy of a clutch awards (which have been bafflingly sparce for a show with so few peers on network television). Plus Hannibal has a small but very loyal fanbase that will sign up to Netflix subscription model.

Best of all, a 13 episode, all in one go series release would save that agonizing 7 day wait to find out what happens next.

Adamocovic

conorhal wrote: »

I'm hoping that Netflix will throw some serious moolah at securing the show. They need content, crave prestige and the legitimacy of a clutch awards (which have been bafflingly sparce for a show with so few peers on network television).

Best of all, a 13 episode, all in one go series release would save that agonizing 7 day wait to find out what happens next.

But then followed with a year wait for the next season :pac:

conorhal

Adamocovic wrote: »

But then followed with a year wait for the next season :pac:

I intend to be placed in a medically induced coma between series to avoid such harsh realities.... :cool:

Adamocovic

One of the executive producers Martha De Laurentiis said they are exploring other distribution options...sounds a bit like netflix..hopefully that leads to something

whats newxt

it's good but iv just lost interest in this series, too dark for me i'm afraid

Adamocovic

conorhal wrote: »

I intend to be placed in a medically induced coma between series to avoid such harsh realities.... :cool:

Of course!!Why havent I thought of this!