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Pronounciation

  • 09-11-2011 2:44pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭drumlover22


    I was just watching tv there, and the news presenter pronounced the word lieutenant as "lef-tenant". I've always pronounced it as "loo-tenant" and it really bugs me when people pronounce it "lef-tenant"*. So any pronounciations of words that annoy any of the AHer's here?





    *waiting to get told I'm wrong :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭emeraldstar


    Pronounciation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    OP how do you pronounce 'colonel'?

    Just curious....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    Pro-noun-see-a-tion

    Pro-nun-see-a-tion

    How do you say it?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    I was just watching tv there, and the news presenter pronounced the word lieutenant as "lef-tenant". I've always pronounced it as "loo-tenant" and it really bugs me when people pronounce it "lef-tenant"*. So any pronounciations of words that annoy any of the AHer's here?





    *waiting to get told I'm wrong :P
    It's lef-tenant in Britain and Ireland. Loo-tenant in the States.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Pronounciation.

    It made me wince...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭Wetai


    Sky King wrote: »
    OP how do you pronounce 'colonel'?

    Just curious....
    Like Kernel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    Sky King wrote: »
    OP how do you pronounce 'colonel'?

    Just curious....

    Cur-Nel


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    Cork.

    Some say Co-urk in a posh way.

    It's actually Caaaawwwrk.


  • Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭drumlover22


    Sky King wrote: »
    OP how do you pronounce 'colonel'?

    Just curious....

    I'd pronounce it Kur-nel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Yeah obviously it's kur-nel - the point I was making is that you can't justify mispronunciation based on weird spelling.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Dj Stiggie


    I was just watching tv there, and the news presenter pronounced the word lieutenant as "lef-tenant". I've always pronounced it as "loo-tenant" and it really bugs me when people pronounce it "lef-tenant"*. So any pronounciations of words that annoy any of the AHer's here?





    *waiting to get told I'm wrong :P

    In Ireland we have 'leftenants'. 'Lewtenants' are American.
    Wikipedia wrote:
    Pronunciation of lieutenant is generally split between the forms /lɛfˈtɛnənt/ lef-ten-ənt and /ljuːˈtɛnənt/ ( listen) lew-ten-ənt, with the former generally associated with the United Kingdom, Ireland and Commonwealth countries, and the latter generally associated with the United States.[1] The early history of the pronunciation is unclear; Middle English spellings suggest that the /ljuː-/ and /lɛf-/ pronunciations existed even then.[2] The rare Old French variant spelling luef for Modern French lieu ('place') supports the suggestion that a final [w] of the Old French word was in certain environments perceived as an [f].[2]


  • Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭drumlover22


    It's lef-tenant in Britain and Ireland. Loo-tenant in the States.

    I knew I'd be wrong somehow :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Funnily enough the one word I have a lot of trouble pronouncing is pronounce.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Nike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    Marine corps = marine core

    WTF?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Anne Doyle saying the word 'sexual' is bad on two levels. Firstly, it's like yore ma saying a word you dont wanna hear.

    Mostly, though, its how she pronounces it

    seks-ual

    B*itch be trippin'....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Nike

    It's Nikey. It's a Greek word and that's how you pronounce it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,195 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Ghoti.

    That is all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    Nike

    A-dee-dis

    A-dee-das.

    :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭emeraldstar


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Anne Doyle saying the word 'sexual' is bad on two levels. Firstly, it's like yore ma saying a word you dont wanna hear.

    Mostly, though, its how she pronounces it

    seks-ual

    B*itch be trippin'....
    She does the same with 'iss-yoo' instead of 'ishoo'.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    Heard Vincent Browne pronounce apologist weird last night. I'd say it like apollo-gist he said it like apple-oh-gist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Even some newscasters say Thighland when it's correct pronunseeayshun is Tie-land.


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭theyearof2010


    This is an ishew that causes alot of controversy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭emeraldstar


    When people say "Thigh-land" and "Thomas" instead of "Tie-land" and "Tomas". Or my mom who puts an extra h in "phanthom" :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Oh and another RTE gripe here. I'm not a fan of how they say Gardai.

    It's like Gwor-dee. They're working a 'W' in there somehow and I just dont like it I tells ya!

    Its possibly the proper pronunciation of the word in some regions though? I'm open to criticism on that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,260 ✭✭✭Mink


    Tissssues or Isssssues instead of "tishue" and "ishue"

    Always seems to be news readers that do this

    Also, "defin - I - tely"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    Ireland - Sit-u-a-shun.
    N. Ireland - Sit-e-a-shun


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    She does the same with 'iss-yoo' instead of 'ishoo'.
    It should be iss-yoo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    foxyboxer wrote: »
    A-dee-dis

    A-dee-das.

    :mad:

    Addy-Dass?

    I remember vaguely an ad for Cica runners where they said 'See-ka, Sy-ka, whatever you wanna call it' - wonder if they were taking the p*ss out of nike and adidas?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,728 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Committ-TEE, instead of committee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    foxyboxer wrote: »
    Ireland - Sit-u-a-shun.
    N. Ireland - Sit-e-a-shun

    Ireland - Northern Ireland
    N. Ireland - Nornern


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Ni-Kee although i used to pronounce it Nike (as in 'Like') No idea why i changed as i think its fairly half and half the way people pronounce it.

    Carribean - I say Cara-bee-an whereas my mum says Carib-ee-in.

    Discipline - Diss-ah-plin and not fúcking Dissipp-lin

    I would say Loo-Tenant and Cer-nul.

    I honestly believe words should be spelt phonetically, it would make things much simpler, cut out ridiculous pronouciations and differences in spelling between countries. It would also make it easier to teach children to spell correctly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Galtee


    Mink wrote: »
    Tissssues or Isssssues instead of "tishue" and "ishue"

    Always seems to be news readers that do this

    Also, "defin - I - tely"

    Either or is acceptable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,728 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    And cert-a-FIC-ate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭emeraldstar


    There's a girl in work who always says "a-shoom" and "pre-zhume" instead of "ah-soom" and "pre-zume". Irks me a bit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,481 ✭✭✭✭cson


    People who add an extra 'o' or two to words like Cook and Book.

    Coooooooo-k

    Boooooooo-k

    The sheer horror when they attempt to say cookbook. :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Miss Olenska


    I was just watching tv there, and the news presenter pronounced the word lieutenant as "lef-tenant". I've always pronounced it as "loo-tenant" and it really bugs me when people pronounce it "lef-tenant"*. So any pronounciations of words that annoy any of the AHer's here?





    *waiting to get told I'm wrong :P

    AFAIK it's only pronounced "lef-tenant" in the UK for some reason. Well so says my OED. Thought to come from French or something.
    It's lef-tenant in Britain and Ireland. Loo-tenant in the States.

    Thought it was "loo-tenant" in Ireland, TBH.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Okay I look like a hormonal teenager here at this stage but why do some Irish people have an issue (issyoo.... thanks Anne) with the saying the name of this country correctly?

    It's not called Areland. I'm sorry but it's just not!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭emeraldstar


    It should be iss-yoo.
    I'm not saying she's wrong, I'm saying that pronunciation annoys me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Galtee


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Okay I look like a hormonal teenager here at this stage but why do some Irish people have an issue (issyoo.... thanks Anne) with the saying the name of this country correctly?

    It's not called Areland. I'm sorry but it's just not!!!!

    Agreed, it does my head in, especially when everyone knows it's ourland. ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭emeraldstar


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Okay I look like a hormonal teenager here at this stage but why do some Irish people have an issue (issyoo.... thanks Anne) with the saying the name of this country correctly?

    It's not called Areland. I'm sorry but it's just not!!!!
    Or "Island" as per the English pronunciation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    CJC999 wrote: »

    I honestly believe words should be spelt phonetically, it would make things much simpler, cut out ridiculous pronouciations and differences in spelling between countries. It would also make it easier to teach children to spell correctly.

    No.

    No no no no no.

    Words have ridiculous spellings so we have an instant way of telling if someone's worth continuing a conversation with or not.

    Or if they're Americans stealing the letter 'u' and assuming 'z' needs to be in words it has no place in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Modern - it's mod-ern not mod-ren. ERN- FFS - ERN!:mad:

    It-lee - It-al-lee

    Catlick - Cath-o-lick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    ''Resume...... It still sounds weird to me'' - Ramrod, Hell's Angels (Bakersfield)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    On RTE news Gardai is oft pronounced Gore Thee

    Gar dee. It's a irish word and therefore can't be said poshly, you sound like a fkin bogger no matter what, that's the whole point. (or de whole pint as we say here in Kilkenny).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    While I'm at it, there's no f in solpadeine. LEARN TO READ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Or "Island" as per the English pronunciation.

    Or Air-awh :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Galtee


    People saying Al-Mond instead of Ah Mond irk me.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Gordon Creamy Sunglasses


    i always say pray-leen
    but i'm told it should be praw-leen

    for praline
    :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 317 ✭✭Handy11


    Omackeral wrote: »
    It's like Gwor-dee. They're working a 'W' in there somehow and I just dont like it I tells ya!

    Agreed! And to make it worse they soften the D, making Guorthee. Horrible.

    Other ones to note:

    Arctic
    Film (I say fillum. I know I'm wrong)
    Mischievous
    Chipotle
    Militia
    Jewelry (another one I'm a culprit for)
    Percolate
    Weetabix
    Sherbet
    Bruschetta


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