Messi Or Ronaldo?

One is a Footballer and one is a Poser, i will let you choose which.

Shanotheslayer

Spazdarn wrote: »

It does carry a little weight though as he's never reproduced the same form for Argentina.

Yeh just got them to a WC Final...

Ronaldo got them to.... The group Stages

MaroonAndGreen

People saying Messi hasnt produced for Argentina, biggest bullshít ive heard in my life. The man is exceptional for Argentina. People making that comment definitely do not watch Argentina.

He has got 95 caps for Argentina, has scored 45 goals. Fairly brilliant in my opinion.

And 44 of those caps were when he was under the age of 21 and still establishing himself at Barcelona. When you look at his international performances between 2009 - 2014 (the time he was at peak club form) he has been as good with Argentina with 32 goals in 52 appearances.

Please dont use the "Messi isnt as good for Argentina argumemt". Its simply not true.

Spazdarn

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Yeh just got them to a WC Final...

Ronaldo got them to.... The group Stages

Messi wasn't amazing at the finals either really, flashes of his usual brilliance.

The team Ronaldo plays with at Portugal are poor enough compared, and definitely not on the same level as the Argentinians.

Turtyturd

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Yeh just got them to a WC Final...

Ronaldo got them to.... The group Stages

Here come the 'Ronnie' was injured arguments.

Billy86

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Yeh just got them to a WC Final...

Ronaldo got them to.... The group Stages

Javier would like a word...

bucketybuck

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Yeh just got them to a WC Final...

He sure was on the field when they got to the world cup final, no doubt about that.

MaroonAndGreen

La Liga Hat-Tricks

Ronaldo - 23
Messi - 21

Hat-Tricks not including penalties

Ronaldo - 9
Messi - 17

darced

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The Moldy Gowl

This debate will never be 100% in anyone's favour.

One naturally gifted.
The other made himself what he is.

pudzey101

Deleted User wrote: »

One is a Footballer and one is a Poser, i will let you choose which.

haha messi all day

Ronaldos penalty secret is out.

GLaDOS

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

La Liga Hat-Tricks

Ronaldo - 23
Messi - 21

Hat-Tricks not including penalties

Ronaldo - 9
Messi - 17

Messi is clearly shite at penalties

Talib Fiasco

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Messi is clearly shite at penalties

Ronaldo is clearly unreal at diving

brevity

Close it up, Ronaldo wins.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/pitchside-europe/cristiano-ronaldo-gives-%E2%82%AC8200-watch-to-all-his-real-madrid-team-mates-154005477.html

Talib Fiasco

brevity wrote: »

Close it up, Ronaldo wins.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/pitchside-europe/cristiano-ronaldo-gives-%E2%82%AC8200-watch-to-all-his-real-madrid-team-mates-154005477.html

Seriously? It's a nice touch and all but the fact CR7 is engraved on it would piss me off to no end.

Bit of a strange one alright.

GavRedKing

brevity wrote: »

Close it up, Ronaldo wins.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/pitchside-europe/cristiano-ronaldo-gives-%E2%82%AC8200-watch-to-all-his-real-madrid-team-mates-154005477.html

Drogbas done it already.

Drogba > Ronaldo

Ulysses Gaze

Goal 31 of the season by Ronaldo.

What a machine.


...and Goal 32 of the season.

shrewdness

He had a shocker to be fair, but he kept trying to make chances and get in scoring positions right to the end, and was rewarded with the two goals.

23rd game of the season and he has 32 goals and 14 assists. 25 goals in the league by mid-December, mental.

yohan the great

bucketybuck wrote: »

Player A has been at an impossibly high standard for the entire year.

Player B was great, then his form dipped, now he is great again.

In some peoples minds that makes Player B most deserving of the award. And makes me wonder about their judgement.

World cup not count?

Turtwig

Well Ronaldo played **** tonight for 75 minutes. Messi did likewise against Valencia. Ergo, they're both sht.

Logic of this thread.

MaroonAndGreen

Messi will be remembered as the better player. Thats what counts in the end. He has more natural genius than Ronaldo (the little flicks, mazy dribbles, exceptional vision). Whereas Ronaldo is more power, pace, goals than intricate beautiful play.

Messi is easier on the eye, and ultimately is more naturally talented.

Greatest ever.

RedemptionZ

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Messi will be remembered as the better player. Thats what counts in the end. He has more natural genius than Ronaldo (the little flicks, mazy dribbles, exceptional vision). Whereas Ronaldo is more power, pace, goals than intricate beautiful play.

Messi is easier on the eye, and ultimately is more naturally talented.

Greatest ever.

Pretty much my thoughts on the whole thing. Both tremendous athletes but Messi will always look better on the highlight reels. He's this generations Maradona. Whereas Ronaldo will be remembered as a world class goal scorer. Which isn't exactly a bad endorsement.

larchielads

I get the op asked who would ye vote for to win the ballon do. But some have argued who is better out of the two. I know it's all personal opinion and no one's ever gonna be right but to throw a little curve ball in it u have 6 games left to stay in the league and by some miracle u can afford the 2 of email but only allowed by one then which one to save your season.
Don't say well buy none cos it costs too much blah blah or whatever. U can only pick onew.
or
who do u reckon would be missed the most from their teams? Who'd finish higher real or barca?

Turtwig

See, the problem there is Madrid are the better managed side. Barca are more dependent on Messi but only because they don't look sure of themselves.

If Messi and Ronaldo swapped clubs Barca would still be the one's lacking.

Madrid currently have the better team, better manager and are far more enjoyable to watch.

If messi get's injured Barca are deep sht, unless Enrique figures out the team's identity. If Ronaldo get's injured Madrid will be fine. Just obviously not possessing the same fear factor.

larchielads

Well who do u pick to save your season?

darced

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Turtwig

larchielads wrote: »

Well who do u pick to save your season?

Messi because he's better at linking up play.

Presumably Ronaldo would struggle to get any supply. Messi's game involves dropping deep. Ronnie less so. And I can't see a team struggling for survival being able to launch coherent counters that penetrate the opposition defence.

syngindub

Ronaldo is definately better looking than messi

chicorytip

pudzey101 wrote: »

who do you guys rate as better?
Alot of people i know think Ronaldo is a god
Has to be Messi though
But who do you vote for?!

Rooney.

Talib Fiasco

Pretty interesting stat here:

https://twitter.com/FutbolLife/status/551725943199653889/photo/1

CSF

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Pretty interesting stat here:

https://twitter.com/FutbolLife/status/551725943199653889/photo/1

Can't get onto Twitter here. What is the stat?

Donnielighto

CSF wrote: »

Can't get onto Twitter here. What is the stat?

Ronaldo's best year:
61 goals 22 assists

Messi's worst year:
58 goals 22 assists

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Pretty interesting stat here:

https://twitter.com/FutbolLife/status/551725943199653889/photo/1

That isn't messi's worst year, it cant be as he hasnt got that every year since he's joined so what timeline is it referring to?

Talib Fiasco

Donnielighto wrote: »

Ronaldo's best year:
61 goals 22 assists

Messi's worst year:
58 goals 22 assists



That isn't messi's worst year, it cant be as he hasnt got that every year since he's joined so what timeline is it referring to?

You're right. Maybe it's since both were competing in La Liga together?

Billy86

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Pretty interesting stat here:

https://twitter.com/FutbolLife/status/551725943199653889/photo/1

It's especially interesting as Messi had 41 goals and 11 assists last year...

CSF

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

You're right. Maybe it's since both were competing in La Liga together?

I still don't think its correct.

I think it refers to people going on like last year was a bad year for Messi when in reality it was anything but.

Donnielighto

CSF wrote: »

I still don't think its correct.

I think it refers to people going on like last year was a bad year for Messi when in reality it was anything but.

That's probably it in fairness.

TheCitizen

They're picking the Ballon d'Or tonight, I think Messi should get it.

Messi says he's staying at Barcelona.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30773367

If he was to leave I think the only possible place for him to go to would be Bayern Munich.

Brussels Sprout

Bayern couldn't afford to either buy him or pay his wages. They're famously stingy.

TheCitizen

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Bayern couldn't afford to either buy him or pay his wages. They're famously stingy.

If that's the case he'll remain at Barca.

Rayne Wooney

Ronaldo favourite at the moment

Can only be him based on the last year really

L'prof

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Ronaldo favourite at the moment

Can only be him based on the last year really

Ronaldo all day long this year and I'd be a bigger fan of Messi.

eagle eye

Personally I think Neuer will get it given he was on a World Cup winning team and he deserves it too imo.

Dubliner28

come on the #sweeperkeeper.

Billy86

Billy86

Ronaldo (37.66%) wins with more votes than Messi (15.76%) and Neuer (15.72%) combined.

L'prof

Billy86 wrote: »

Ronaldo (37.66%) wins with more votes than Messi (15.76%) and Neuer (15.72%) combined.

Then he goes and reacts like this:

https://vine.co/v/ODiFLTrFiZJ

Ulysses Gaze

L'prof wrote: »

Then he goes and reacts like this:

https://vine.co/v/ODiFLTrFiZJ

Completely uncalled for.

It's crap like that, that makes him difficult to like for a lot of people.

Classy reaction.

Deserved the award though without a doubt