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The truth about lapdancing clubs

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Never been to one myself.

    If I want to sit on my hands and be sexually frustrated I can do that at home for free.

    You're going to the wrong lapdancing clubs ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Paully D wrote: »
    You're going to the wrong lapdancing clubs ;)

    Sorry buddy, real men don't pay for sex.

    Wink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,713 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Sorry buddy, real men don't pay for sex.

    Wink.

    You'll have to define "real man" for me!

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    How about male lap dancers who have to perform in front of 40-60 y/o women? Apparently they get a lot of sexual harassment, both verbal and physical. Do you know how much that denigrates those men?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭thebullkf


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Thank you for taking the male gender back 30 years.


    Exaggerate much?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    We are talking about lap dancers in those clubs, where it costs 250eu for private dance ( its a dance, not a **** fest, try to touch her and you will be draged out with quite a few missing teeth).

    Holy feck some people have more money than sense :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    How about male lap dancers who have to perform in from of 40-60 y/o women? Apparently they get a lot of sexual harassment, both verbal and physical.
    I have to laugh how its dirty and sleazy for men to go to a lap dancing club, but harmless fun when those male strip groups come to town for the ladies to go wild.

    From what i have heard a lot more goes on at them then is ever allowed at a lap dancing club
    Yeah I hate that crap. Seeing male strippers is more of a fun thing, to be fair (although you couldn't pay me to go see them) but groping them? Christ - unbelievable it's accepted!
    That's because us men love being pawed by women. (assuming they're half way good looking)
    Are you sure...?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭harrythehat


    I was in a club in Bristol a few months ago. I was the only girl in the group to get a dance and I really enjoyed it. I chatted to the dancer for ages after and she was lovely, seemed very happy in her work.

    I did wonder though, what next for her? She was going on 30 and looked it so surely that's nearly retirement age for a lap dancer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Jay D


    OP needs to get a life. That much is certain.


    bla bla bla


    Who cares? They work there, they choose it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭harrythehat


    If I was hard-up for cash and about 2 stone lighter I'd definitely consider it as a career move!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Jay D wrote: »
    OP needs to get a life. That much is certain.


    bla bla bla


    Who cares? They work there, they choose it.
    We got ourselves another non reader of the thread. Why does the OP need to get a life? And just because you don't care, that means others don't is it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Carverkid


    Imagine how you would feel if you found out your sister was at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,520 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    There's a 'pole fitness' club at the college I go to. They were doing a display at the start of the year with all the other clubs and societies. There was a guy in hot pants and a tight tshirt doing the moves on the pole.
    Possibly the funniest thing I've ever seen. Only a can of wd40 could have improved the show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I've worked as a cleaner in a hospital and as an escort while at university, and I have to say the cleaning was by far the more degrading experience. Not because of the filth, but because of the way people treat you.


    :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭jpm4


    I was in a club in Bristol a few months ago. I was the only girl in the group to get a dance and I really enjoyed it. I chatted to the dancer for ages after and she was lovely, seemed very happy in her work.

    What was the point of that?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I never understood how it "lapdancing/pron/whathaveyou is degrading women".
    What other women choose do to earn money doesn't degrade me, sorry.

    I've worked as a cleaner in a hospital and as an escort while at university, and I have to say the cleaning was by far the more degrading experience. Not because of the filth, but because of the way people treat you.
    :(
    What type of dick would a person have to be to look down on someone because of their job...?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Dudess wrote: »
    Yeah I hate that crap. Seeing male strippers is more of a fun thing, to be fair (although you couldn't pay me to go see them) but groping them? Christ - unbelievable it's accepted!

    Are you sure...?!

    Why is it fun if it's a male stripper? How do you know it's not fun when it's a female stripper?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Why is it fun if it's a male stripper? How do you know it's not fun when it's a female stripper?
    Oh I'm not saying that's not fun, but a male strip show is generally less sexual and more about having a laugh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Dudess wrote: »
    Oh I'm not saying that's not fun, but a male strip show is generally less sexual and more about having a laugh.

    Different formats. Male strip shows tend to be in a big room with a stage...comparing a Revue to a lap dance is not like for like i reckon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    I have been to some in soho and Ireland, In Soho it seemed to be sad lonely men sitting around a pole throwing their money away. I would go to one for a laugh and have a few beers with naked girls walking around, but I would not see the appeal in a dance most of em are munts anyways and just because there nearly naked men fall over them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭COYW


    Never understood the attraction of strip clubs myself and can't understand how anyone gets satisfaction from them after visiting one in Newcastle many years ago when I was away with a group of lads. You are surrounded by these pretty girls, who drop 1 or 2 lines of conversation after approaching you, flutter their eye-lids and then expect you to part with your money for a crappy "dance", which lasts 2 minutes or so.

    Swore I would never go back to one after that night and never have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    mikom wrote: »
    dublogic wrote: »
    I noticed a trend among some of the male boardsies to be completely dismissive about any objections that people have to lap dancing clubs and how they denigrate women so I'm posting the following - not that men like that will really give a f but I'm posting anyway just to advertise that as a man I think that their attitude is bull and the following article underscores that:

    here are a few highlight from the article :

    "The often-rehearsed idea that lap-dancing can be empowering, or make women feel beautiful is nonsense, says Danns, when explicit insults are common. Nearly half of lap-dancers in the Leeds study reported frequent verbal harrassment and unwanted touching. "They call you names, comment on your body, or your cellulite, and certainly [I know] from other women's experiences, comment on your genitalia saying 'that's big'," Danns says. "How can you raise your self esteem through that? If you are going to take the compliments you have to take the insults."


    "The often-rehearsed idea that serving fast food can be empowering, or make women feel beautiful is nonsense, says Danns, when explicit insults are common.
    Nearly half of fast food employees in the Leeds study reported frequent verbal harrassment and unwanted orders. "They call you names, comment on your burger, or your chicken dippers, and certainly [I know] from other women's experiences, comment on your fries saying 'that's super size',"

    Danns says. "How can you raise your self esteem through that? If you are going to take the compliments you have to take the insults."
    Lapdancers, go work in McDonalds if your job is such a drag.
    To be fair Mikom, nobody has ever said working in a fast food place would make a person feel beautiful or empowered, nor is there much risk of their naked bits being groped. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    Dudess wrote: »
    :(
    What type of dick would a person have to be to look down on someone because of their job...?

    It happens though. I was a cleaner whilst doing my degree and was looked at by some staff as if I was dog shít flicked off their boots. I was spoken to as if I had the mental faculties of a 2 year old. So I get where that poster was coming from. The same people now would fawn over me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭daithimacgroin


    most lapdancers are total skangers, is it any wonder they get insulted with the general feeling among punters of being ripped off


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Dudess wrote: »
    To be fair Mikom, nobody has ever said working in a fast food place would make a person feel beautiful or empowered, nor is there much risk of their naked bits being groped. :pac:

    ♫ You wan't your way at BK....... You got it ♫

    So they lied?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭jpm4


    Dudess wrote: »
    To be fair Mikom, nobody has ever said working in a fast food place would make a person feel beautiful or empowered, nor is there much risk of their naked bits being groped. :pac:

    You would have to be pretty naive to believe that being a lap dancer is empowering - I'd agree with the general thrust of that post above in that working in fast food is ****ty and demeaning, and I know from first hand experience that you have a reasonable chance of being harassed or assaulted by the Saturday night brigade. Is being headbutted by some f**ker who didn't get his chicken fillet fast enough (seen it happen) worse than having some overexcited punter put his hand on your boob? I would think so, but reading about the former wouldn't interest people too much because.....well what do you expect if you work in such a crappy job?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,520 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Dudess wrote: »
    To be fair Mikom, nobody has ever said working in a fast food place would make a person feel beautiful or empowered, nor is there much risk of their naked bits being groped. :pac:

    I'd be much less concerned about the groping, there is after all a counter in the way, and a lot more concerned about the proximity of my bits to all those fryers with their hateful oil. :eek:


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