What would have happened if the Nazi's had won?

Force136

I was going to say Ireland would have then been full of Nazis.

But you guys invited them in anyway.

Thankfully we defeated them, no thanks to Ireland.

Chuck Stone

Wouldn't have lasted long imo. Imperial overstretch and all that.

Zebra3

Force136 wrote: »

I was going to say Ireland would have then been full of Nazis.

But you guys invited them in anyway.

Thankfully we defeated them, no thanks to Ireland.

You're Russian then, yeah?

ejmaztec

Cú Giobach wrote: »

We would be living in the stone age again, due to the nuclear war that would have ensued as the Germans and Americans fought for control of the seas and subsequent control of world trade (which the Americans gained as a result of WWII).

The Americans wouldn't have transported 3500 tons of German scientific research and patents out of Germany (which they did in reality), and would have missed out big-time on that one.

The Americans would have had rockets raining down on them until they threw in the towel, and the Reichsmark would have been the world currency.

Fratton Fred

Zebra3 wrote: »

Good guys? What planet are you on?

Have you any ideas about the crimes committed by the USSR on its own people?

The genocide commited in the US on the native population? US crimes in Vietnam?

And won't even mention those carried out by the French and British empires. :rolleyes:



There'd be nothing on the History Channel.

As bad as all those acts were, none of them created industrialised death camps on the scale of the nazis. They exterminated 6 million people despite waging a war on all fronts, imagine if they could turn more resources to it?

Pherekydes

Force136 wrote: »

I was going to say Ireland would have then been full of Nazis.

But you guys invited them in anyway.

Thankfully we defeated them, no thanks to Ireland.

Hey, don't blame us. I was born in 1960. And some Irishmen joined the allied forces to do their bit.

Force136

Zebra3 wrote: »

You're Russian then, yeah?

British.

Two world wars.

The first you spent fellating the Germans and trying to use their war against us, as a distraction for your bombing campaign.

The second one you decided to 'remain neutral' - and by that I mean you sat on the sidelines cheering the Germans and then allowed in the Nazi war criminals to live in Ireland.

My, what a wonderful and rich history Ireland has. <puke>

Bobby Baccala

i would be emperor.

mojesius

Fratton Fred wrote: »

As bad as all those acts were, none of them created industrialised death camps on the scale of the nazis. They exterminated 6 million people despite waging a war on all fronts, imagine if they could turn more resources to it?

Stalin killed an estd. 20 million Russians

Funglegunk

Niallwithaz wrote: »

My leaving cert. History teacher told us that had Hitler won, he had plans to turn Ireland into a large concentration camp. Dont know how true that is though.

Just like Leeson St.

Zebra3

Fratton Fred wrote: »

As bad as all those acts were, none of them created industrialised death camps on the scale of the nazis. They exterminated 6 million people despite waging a war on all fronts, imagine if they could turn more resources to it?

It's amazing how brainwashed people are that they only think of that figure cos it's associated with the number of jewish deaths. Conveniently forgotten are Germans, Poles, the disabled, Soviet PoWs and the Roma amongst others.

The fact that the others didn't kill people in that way doesn't make them good guys. Maybe not as evil, but defo not good.

44leto

The Nazis did have there good points, there uniforms were cool.

mojesius

44leto wrote: »

The Nazis did have there good points, there uniforms were cool.

Best of the bunch by far.

ejmaztec

Force136 wrote: »

British.

Two world wars.

The first you spent fellating the Germans and trying to use their war against us, as a distraction for your bombing campaign.

The second one you decided to 'remain neutral' - and by that I mean you sat on the sidelines cheering the Germans and then allowed in the Nazi war criminals to live in Ireland.

My, what a wonderful and rich history Ireland has. <puke>

Who were all these war criminals? The Americans in particular probably let an awful lot more go, in exchange for information, than ever ended up in Ireland.

Napper Hawkins

Call of Duty would have British and US army zombies instead of Nazi zombies and it would still be ****e.

Force136

To be fair, the attitudes of many Irish with regards to Jews and Israel can only really be considered a ball-hair away from the Nazis.

So I guess it kind of makes sense for the Irish to have invited the Nazis in to stay.

Siuin

Force136 wrote: »

To be fair, the attitudes of many Irish with regards to Jews and Israel can only really be considered a ball-hair away from the Nazis.

So I guess it kind of makes sense for the Irish to have invited the Nazis in to stay.

Was wondering how long it would take before someone equated anti-Semitism with anti-Zionism... :rolleyes:

ejmaztec

Force136 wrote: »

To be fair, the attitudes of many Irish with regards to Jews and Israel can only really be considered a ball-hair away from the Nazis.

So I guess it kind of makes sense for the Irish to have invited the Nazis in to stay.

You haven't answered my question yet.

Jopari87

Germany would control Europe and Prince Harry would be wearing a Nazi uniform.

So the world would be the same I'd guess.

mike65

ejmaztec wrote: »

Who were all these war criminals? The Americans in particular probably let an awful lot more go, in exchange for information, than ever ended up in Ireland.

A couple ended up in Ireland Andrija_Artuković is one of them, he used some rather generous help from the state to gain a false ID so he could flee to the States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Célestin_Lainé is another, more of a collaborator than an outright NAZI

muletide

I hope someone does another of those posts " We would all be ...... ...... And Germany would control Europe - oh wait they do"

Them be hilarious 😏

psychward

Adolph would be a popular first name

unfortunately

TheZohan wrote: »

I'm not sure, but I do know the punchline is "ann frankly I won't stand for it".

Ahh now, that's Göring too far.

ejmaztec

mike65 wrote: »

A couple ended up in Ireland Andrija_Artuković is one of them, he used some rather generous help from the state to gain a false ID so he could flee to the States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Célestin_Lainé is another, more of a collaborator than an outright NAZI

I knew about those, but was expecting a list of thousands from Force136, showing the hardest nazi war criminals known to mankind.

Force136

Siuin wrote: »

Was wondering how long it would take before someone equated anti-Semitism with anti-Zionism...

Ah yes, that old chestnut. The perfect alibi - "anti-Zionist"

"What me? a racist? of course not. I am merely aiming all my ire and bile at the Jewish state because I am anti-Zionist...you see."

Yeah, there was a brotha back in the day who had some views on that. You might recognise him.

You declare, my friend, that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely 'anti-Zionist.' And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of God's green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--this is God's own truth.

"Antisemitism, the hatred of the Jewish people, has been and remains a blot on the soul of mankind. In this we are in full agreement. So know also this: anti-Zionist is inherently antisemitic, and ever will be so.

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

And before anyone pipes up about this being a 'hoax' quote, it was in his official biography and reflected his personal view.

al28283

Force136 wrote: »

British.

Two world wars.

The first you spent fellating the Germans and trying to use their war against us, as a distraction for your bombing campaign.

The second one you decided to 'remain neutral' - and by that I mean you sat on the sidelines cheering the Germans and then allowed in the Nazi war criminals to live in Ireland.

My, what a wonderful and rich history Ireland has. <puke>

And the British have a much more admirable record as far as history goes?

Didn't you just get banned from another forum for this ****?

psychward

Force136 wrote: »

Ah yes, that old chestnut. The perfect alibi - "anti-Zionist"

"What me? a racist? of course not. I am merely aiming all my ire and bile at the Jewish state because I am anti-Zionist...you see."

Yeah, there was a brotha back in the day who had some views on that. You might recognise him.



And before anyone pipes up about this being a 'hoax' quote, it was in his official biography and reflected his personal view.

How do you explain Jewish led ''anti-Zionist'' movements ?

ejmaztec

Force136 wrote: »

Ah yes, that old chestnut. The perfect alibi - "anti-Zionist"

"What me? a racist? of course not. I am merely aiming all my ire and bile at the Jewish state because I am anti-Zionist...you see."

Yeah, there was a brotha back in the day who had some views on that. You might recognise him.



And before anyone pipes up about this being a 'hoax' quote, it was in his official biography and reflected his personal view.

I think you've posted in the wrong thread.

Force136

al28283 wrote: »

And the British have a much more admirable record as far as history goes?

Didn't you just get banned from another forum for this ****?

We've invented so much, created so much, exported so much.

Let me know when you guys achieve a millionth of what we achieved. Scores of countries base their society, legal system and democracy on us.

The British are an amazing people. Amazing.

And the Jews/Israelis out perform you in every avenue too.

That's got to sting. Every people you fight against, are better and more productive than you.

Morlar

Force136 wrote: »

We've invented so much, created so much, exported so much.

Let me know when you guys achieve a millionth of what we achieved. Scores of countries base their society, legal system and democracy on us.

The British are an amazing people. Amazing.

And the Jews/Israelis out perform you in every avenue too.

That's got to sting. Every people you fight against, are better and more productive than you.

Remind me, why are you posting on an Irish internet forum ? When you are clearly prejudiced against all things Irish - it makes no sense.

Force136

psychward wrote: »

How do you explain Jewish led ''anti-Zionist'' movements ?

What? a group of around 200 fruitcakes?

How do you explain child abuse, sectarianism, withholding passports of pregnant women and bringing in blasphemy laws in the 21st century?

ejmaztec

Force136 wrote: »

We've invented so much, created so much, exported so much.

Let me know when you guys achieve a millionth of what we achieved. Scores of countries base their society, legal system and democracy on us.

The British are an amazing people. Amazing.

And the Jews/Israelis out perform you in every avenue too.

That's got to sting. Every people you fight against, are better and more productive than you.

...and it all got pissed away:(

Force136

Morlar wrote: »

Remind me, why are you posting on an Irish internet forum ? When you are clearly prejudiced against all things Irish - it makes no sense.

I'm just chilling out. Seeing what the enemy are up to. Seeing the bile you're posting. How much money you're being handed to keep you afloat.

Just watching and learning. So far, you've matched my expectations of being pretty grotesque.

ejmaztec

Force136 wrote: »

I'm just chilling out. Seeing what the enemy are up to. Seeing the bile you're posting. How much money you're being handed to keep you afloat.

Just watching and learning. So far, you've matched my expectations of being pretty grotesque.

Another infantile post.

al28283

Force136 wrote: »

We've invented so much, created so much, exported so much.

Let me know when you guys achieve a millionth of what we achieved. Scores of countries base their society, legal system and democracy on us.

The British are an amazing people. Amazing.

And the Jews/Israelis out perform you in every avenue too.

That's got to sting. Every people you fight against, are better and more productive than you.

Nah, doesn't bother me much. Inventing and Exporting doesn't let you off the hook for the hundreds of years of colonisation and genocide your amazing race has inflicted upon the world.

Take care, and try find something more productive to do with your time

:P

Madam

'Force' you so funny guy:rolleyes:

Force136

Siuin wrote: »

Was wondering how long it would take before someone equated anti-Semitism with anti-Zionism... :rolleyes:

Ah yes, that old chestnut. The perfect alibi - "anti-Zionist"

"What me? a racist? of course not. I am merely aiming all my ire and bile at the Jewish state because I am anti-Zionist...you see."

Yeah, there was a brotha back in the day who had some views on that. You might recognise him.

You declare, my friend, that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely 'anti-Zionist.' And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of God's green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--this is God's own truth.

"Antisemitism, the hatred of the Jewish people, has been and remains a blot on the soul of mankind. In this we are in full agreement. So know also this: anti-Zionist is inherently antisemitic, and ever will be so.

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

And before anyone pipes up about this being a 'hoax' quote, it was in his official biography and reflected his personal view.

psychward

ejmaztec wrote: »

Another infantile post.

I agree. That guy is not very inclusive at all and seems to enjoy trying to use insults to set people who don't even have an opinion or care about his pet subjects against one another.

ejmaztec

It's a great shame that such a happy-go-lucky "what would have happened if the Nazis had won" thread, turned into pure poison, thanks to the poison posts.:(

Madam

psychward wrote: »

I agree. That guy is not very inclusive at all and seems to enjoy trying to use insults to set people who don't even have an opinion or care about his pet subjects against one another.

Yet, you all answer his stupid posts

Morlar

Madam wrote: »

'Force' you so funny guy:rolleyes:

He reminds me of what would happen if keith and fred ever had a lovechild together.

jakobgallagher

read this years ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_in_the_High_Castle

ejmaztec

Force136 wrote: »

My needle's stuck......

:eek:

Minstrel27

Morlar wrote: »

Remind me, why are you posting on an Irish internet forum ? When you are clearly prejudiced against all things Irish - it makes no sense.

Trolling and I am sad to see so many people take the bait.

psychward

Madam wrote: »

Yet, you all answer his stupid posts

nahhh I only asked one question which had long interested me and I wasn't satisfied with the quality of the answer so am basically done. This thread is supposed to be about a totally different topic anyway. Those types of hatefest debates exist in thousands of threads across the internet already.

Morlar

Minstrel27 wrote: »

Trolling and I am sad to see so many people take the bait.

I know that too just a bit bored afore hometime. Stupid thread anyway.

Siuin

Force136 wrote: »

Ah yes, that old chestnut. The perfect alibi - "anti-Zionist"

"What me? a racist? of course not. I am merely aiming all my ire and bile at the Jewish state because I am anti-Zionist...you see."

I've already spent a whole thread trying to enlighten someone else, so I will keep this brief: Judaism is a religion, Zionism is a political ideology. You don't need to be a Jew to be a Zionist. You don't need to be a Zionist to be a Jew. People have legitimate concerns about Zionism, and if you knew a scrap of history you would understand why. Israelis can't continue to pull the anti-Semite card every time someone criticises their governmental policies.

Force136

Lads, could you tell me what you guys do? like as a nation, what do you actually achieve/produce/innovate.

I'm not going to go down the route of asking about potatoes etc because that's just a terrible stereotype.

What does Ireland do? I mean, other than whinge and go about with a begging bowl in Europe relying on the Great British nation to keep you afloat.

ejmaztec

Force136 wrote: »

More of the same.

al28283

Siuin wrote: »

I've already spent a whole thread trying to enlighten someone else, so I will keep this brief: Judaism is a religion, Zionism is a political ideology. You don't need to be a Jew to be a Zionist. You don't need to be a Zionist to be a Jew. People have legitimate concerns about Zionism, and if you knew a scrap of history you would understand why. Israelis can't continue to pull the anti-Semite card every time someone criticises their governmental policies.

Force knows everything about the Jews, haven't you heard? He's been to Israel