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McGeady is class - discuss
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MrStuffins wrote: »
However, you haven't even bothered to back yourself up here. I've actually asked you on a couple of occasions to show me. I want to be shown or be given examples of what you're talking about. Otherwise what reason do I have to change my mind? You either can't produce anything or your default method of arguing your point is just saying "Your mind is made up, what's the point?".
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Evidence you want. What type?
See you say he's poor. The evidence would suggest otherwise. Look at his career stats for Celtic and Spartak. Look at the awards he's won. Look at how every manager has rated him, including Trap.
Look at his transfer fee to Spartak.
See how many clubs who are interested in him.
Look at Youtube. You said he couldn't shoot. Type McGeady and keyword goal
and you'll get a few hits.
Give me some evidence to back up your claims that he's a poor player.
Believe it or not, I really don't care if you don't rate the lad. Up to yourself but we've both seen most of his games for Ireland. I was lucky to see him play a lot of games for Celtic so I would have seen him play more than you. A lot of Celtic fans would say that he could frustrate but I never came across any who made him out to be a poor player.MrStuffins wrote: »
Lol. Can you show me where I didn't agree that we were a poor footballing side? If you wish I will go through the trouble of finding you some quotes of mine here on Boards where I have said time and time again that we are a poor footballing side.
When I said "A load of sh*te about the team being poor" I didn't mean this particular opinion was sh*te, I meant (quite obviously) that your bringing up a load of unrelated stuff was nonsense.
You went quiet and all of a sudden didn't respond when I posted about the teams style of play.
If Messi was in our team he would struggle to do what he does at Barca. Surely you can accept my point there.MrStuffins wrote: »it seems you're really having trouble understanding the points of others.
Nah I'm not really.MrStuffins wrote: »
I have formed the opinion, through observation and evidence, that McGeady is a frustrating player who is a poor passer, crosser and shoter of the ball. One who makes poor decisions on the pitch and tries to beat 2 players at a time too much.
However, as said before, i'm always open to others showing me otherwise. Just saying "He's good" doesn'r cut it. This isn't the Christianity forum!
If he tries to beat two players at a time then surely it's because he hasn't got many other options? Not like he stops to let the defender come back for a second chance..
Observation and evidence? What evidence?!MrStuffins wrote: »
Well....... you don't!
Feck man, you might disagree with me 110% but surely you can't fault me giving up my precious time to have a debate
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Lionel Messi on Aiden McGeady before a Champions league match a few years ago :
"he is a fast and skillful winger and someone I rate very highly. We will have to be careful with him because his movement can be special and has a great ability to appear in goalscoring positions out of the blue. I really like the way he plays football. He is a natural talent who can create a brilliant piece of play in the blink of an eye and I can assure you our defenders will be paying very close attention to him".
Well if Messi rates him..... 0 -
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Lionel Messi on Aiden McGeady before a Champions league match a few years ago :
"he is a fast and skillful winger and someone I rate very highly. We will have to be careful with him because his movement can be special and has a great ability to appear in goalscoring positions out of the blue. I really like the way he plays football. He is a natural talent who can create a brilliant piece of play in the blink of an eye and I can assure you our defenders will be paying very close attention to him".
Well if Messi rates him.....
I was at that game against Barca. He was a thorn in Barcas side. Put in two crosses that were directly responsible for Celtics two goals.0 -
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Evidence you want. What type?
Any will do.See you say he's poor. The evidence would suggest otherwise. Look at his career stats for Celtic and Spartak.
Right so:
This season he's played 16 games. He's scored 2 goals and had ZERO assists. I've seen one of the goals, it was a decent one. Haven't seen the other.
Nothing here to suggest he can cross a ball though. In 16 games he hasn't assisted ONE goal! In fact, according to the statistics he's never performed an assist for Spartak Moscow.Look at the awards he's won. Look at how every manager has rated him, including Trap.
Trap also rated Paul Green. He continually refuses to play a lot of good Irish players. Doesn't prove or disprove anythingLook at his transfer fee to Spartak.
Transfer fees say nothing! If they did then Andy Carroll would be the world;s best striker!See how many clubs who are interested in him.
The transfer rumour mill is not evidence that the guy can cross or shoot.
Will do. But doesn't change the fact he doesn't do it enough for ireland. i can watch as many of his goals as I want but that wont change the fact he's scored 2 goals in 45 games for Ireland!Look at Youtube. You said he couldn't shoot. Type McGeady and keyword goalGive me some evidence to back up your claims that he's a poor player.
Ok. Well how about the 0-0 draw v Slovakia. There were 4-5 instances of when the lad had the ball and rather than pass it or release it, he ran it out of play over the line. There were a few times when he got into good positions to cross the ball and when he DID it was a poorly executed cross and when he didn't it was because he would instead try to beat the man and fail. He gave the ball away needlessly all night. He had a couple of little bits of good play but overall had a bad game!
He had a couple of attempts at goal and never got one on target! he was eventually substituted. There's a match report here if you wanna have alook.Believe it or not, I really don't care if you don't rate the lad. Up to yourself but we've both seen most of his games for Ireland. I was lucky to see him play a lot of games for Celtic so I would have seen him play more than you. A lot of Celtic fans would say that he could frustrate but I never came across any who made him out to be a poor player.
Bit of a presumption there TBH
You went quiet and all of a sudden didn't respond when I posted about the teams style of play.
When did I go quiet? I said McGeady is a poor crosser and shooter of the ball. You started talking about the team's style of play. It has little relevance!If Messi was in our team he would struggle to do what he does at Barca. Surely you can accept my point there.
Messi can cross and shoot.
If Messi was in our team, his abilities to cross and shoot wouldn't disappear suddenly :rolleyes:If he tries to beat two players at a time then surely it's because he hasn't got many other options?
Yes, plenty!Observation and evidence? What evidence?!
Evidence of his poor efforts of crossing and shooting.0 -
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