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'Skilled Chuggers Required' - Amnesty International

  • 13-11-2011 12:21pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    http://www.jobs.ie/ApplyForJob.aspx?Id=1129161

    lol! Amnesty are actually advertising for 'Skilled Chuggers' now, self described. Well played.
    Paid street fundraisers are sometimes known as chuggers because usually fundraising is viewed as aggressive or invasive (a portmanteau of "charity" and "mugger")Wiki


    So if you have any experience in charity work or mugging, contact Amnesty, they want to hear from YOU!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭EverEvolving


    €15 an hour's not bad plus they would have to be decent employers what with them being all into rights and all that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    It may be run by a third party.

    Have you experience in mugging EverEvolving?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭EverEvolving


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    It may be run by a third party.

    Have you experience in mugging EverEvolving?

    I stole a drink in a nightclub many moons ago, does that count?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    No. We'll keep your cv on file though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    I used to feel a bit guilty for not stopping and talking to these people (the less annoying ones that is) until I discovered they got paid. I used to think that working for a charity was something people did in their spare time and out of the goodness of their hearts. I didn't think it was a career.

    The more annoying ones have often blocked my way and stopped me from walking down the street and made personal remarks about me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf



    The more annoying ones have often blocked my way and stopped me from walking down the street and made personal remarks about me.

    Go on, give us all a giggle.. What kind of things did they say about you?.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Suppose the new job describtion is in line with how they have evolved. Even walking down the street, with your headphones on, looking at your mobile, no longer seems to deter them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    I've chugged over a year ago for the best part of 6 months -

    Not easy by any stretch of the imagination and you're always one bad week away from getting fired - In my 6 months there close to 30 people were fired!

    The job is extremely hard and I wouldnt look down on anybody that's doing it - they have bills to pay too and by golly was I taxed for every penny I earned.

    Also this job isnt for everybody - Not only do you have to get past a tough interview process you also then have to preform everyday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    I just loudly say "Sorry, I'm gay" and keep walking. Confuses them to no end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    I just loudly say "Sorry, I'm gay" and keep walking. Confuses them to no end.

    I prefer roaring "you''ll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel".
    By the time they have a comeback I'm well past them.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Like how many people even know their bank account and sort code off the top of their head anyways. I wouldn't mind making a cash contribution to a good cause but there is no fecking way I'd ever set up a direct debit to them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,134 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Go on, give us all a giggle.. What kind of things did they say about you?.

    They probably called him a tight-arse when he didn't hand any money over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    Go on, give us all a giggle.. What kind of things did they say about you?.
    Just remarks about my appearance. I used to have long hair and they would comment on that. I also had long sideburns and a chugger once stood in front of me and when I manoeuvered my way around him he shouted "cool sideboards man". I don't know if he was being sarcastic or if he was paying me a compliment so I'd go back and give him my bank details.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    The more annoying ones have often blocked my way and stopped me from walking down the street and made personal remarks about me.

    I HOPE you blasted them with piss ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    €15 an hour's not bad plus they would have to be decent employers what with them being all into rights and all that!

    That isn't 15 euro an hour. It is "On-Target Earnings". This means that if the Chugger hits the required sales that they want then they will make that much cash. Reality is probably a lot lower.
    The more annoying ones have often blocked my way and stopped me from walking down the street and made personal remarks about me.

    I'd get their details and report them.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,941 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    Hobbes wrote: »
    That isn't 15 euro an hour. It is "On-Target Earnings". This means that if the Chugger hits the required sales that they want then they will make that much cash. Reality is probably a lot lower.

    The last time I talked to one it was about 9-10 euro an hour base rate and it went up to 15 if you signed up ten people a day... or at least I think it was ten, I never understood this as the direct debit they try to sign you up for is a tenner a month, so the chugger costs more than what they bring in for quite a while, never mind what they cost in bad publicity for the charity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    I HOPE you blasted them with piss ?
    Unfortunately I had already urinated before I left the house. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    Chuggers. Best retort i ever heard to a chugger was a from a lad on Westmoreland street who was hassled by a chugger. He just turned around and said "i just don't like helping poor black people", :pac: harsh but funny as fck at the time.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    "do you have a minute for concern?"
    "do you have a concern for my minute?"

    and await a response.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Stay classy, Amnesty International


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,824 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I've chugged over a year ago for the best part of 6 months -

    Not easy by any stretch of the imagination and you're always one bad week away from getting fired - In my 6 months there close to 30 people were fired!

    The job is extremely hard and I wouldnt look down on anybody that's doing it - they have bills to pay too and by golly was I taxed for every penny I earned.

    Also this job isnt for everybody - Not only do you have to get past a tough interview process you also then have to preform everyday.

    Or you could stand on a street and say 'If you give me money to pay my bills I will give 5% to charity.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    The average person lasts a week in these jobs before they get the sack, it's a hard thing to do.

    As an aside, am I the only one who thinks giving your bank details to a random stranger on the street is crazy? I'd never even consider setting up a direct debit there and then even I supported the cause.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭steve9859


    They should have put the advert up on jobbridge!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭OneArt


    Veles wrote: »
    I was once accosted by a trumped up tart chugging for concern who accused me of having "the blood of African children in my hands" when I informed her I wasn't interested!

    I got something along the lines of that too, was told to "think of the kids in Africa". So I told them my cousins are kids in Africa and I think about them all the time.

    The look on her face...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭bazza1


    Trocaire chugger at the house the other day. Very aggressive hard sell. When I said I wasnt interested, she asked if I was happy that 24000 children died every day,when I could possibly save some by monthly direct debit. I told her my OH regularly donates to Gorta and Bothar she suggested that we switch our donations to Trocaire instead. I told her to piss off!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    looksee wrote: »
    Or you could stand on a street and say 'If you give me money to pay my bills I will give 5% to charity.'

    Ah it wouldnt be as fun....

    - Chatting up all the young girls
    - Going to secret seminars where we'd learn hypnotic hand shake techniques
    - More seminars to spot the most vunerable people
    - Use peoples direct debits to pay for all our drinks and drugs on the CEOs yacht


    Ah how I miss saving little babies in Africa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭enfield


    Why not just give them incorrect bank details? They will get fired when the thing bounces back and it wastes their time and their bosses time just like they do ours.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I've chugged over a year ago for the best part of 6 months

    taxed for every penny I earned.

    Not only do you have to get past a tough interview process you also then have to preform everyday.
    Jaysus that sounds like a real horror story, does this really go on in this day & age. I can only sit here shuddering imagining if I had to go through a job interview, be expected to actually work everyday, and then get taxed on my earnings.

    The starving babies have it easier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    rubadub wrote: »
    Jaysus that sounds like a real horror story, does this really go on in this day & age. I can only sit here shuddering imagining if I had to go through a job interview, be expected to actually work everyday, and then get taxed on my earnings.

    The starving babies have it easier.

    Ha, horrifying.


    Well you'd also get spat at, groped(didnt mind so much if they were hot), assaulted, abused, stuff throw at you, junkies being junkies and much much more.

    Theen you'd have your typically geeky trinners head questioning whether it was right getting paid by a charity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    You don't have to abuse the chuggers, anytime I encounter them I say "thanks, I signed up with you guys last month". They have no comeback for that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭PseudoFamous


    Walking down Parnell St. the other day, I heard what I can only be assume to be the manager of the group giving them a pep talk, i.e., "We need you to sign five people up every hour on average for you to be commercially viable to hire".

    Slimy bastards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Just remarks about my appearance. I used to have long hair and they would comment on that. I also had long sideburns and a chugger once stood in front of me and when I manoeuvered my way around him he shouted "cool sideboards man". I don't know if he was being sarcastic or if he was paying me a compliment so I'd go back and give him my bank details.

    are you the dark destroyer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭fungun


    From urbandictionary:

    1. chugging
    loading up on alcoholic substance, power drinking
    that was crazy how fast he drank that 40! that's some power chugging!

    2. chugging 31 up, 27 down
    another word for ****, masturbating, etc
    the boy's girlfriend was chugging him under the covers

    3. chugging
    In the UK - drinking game for naked guys, usually rugby-football players. Needs three guys. One guy bends over with his ass in the air. Another pours a can of beer from high up so the beer trickles down the first guy's ass crack and over his balls. Meanwhile a third guy holds his head between the first guy's thighs and the beer goes in his mouth and he drinks it.

    4. Chugging
    The act of attempting or cajoling commuters into parting with cash by shaking coin filled tins at them or beguiling them into thinking you are giving away great stuff.
    I could see the chugger on the corner chugging away at passers-by so I crossed the road and gave him the split.


    And this thread is on the least interesting option 4


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    I worked for these tits many years ago (eight years ago exactly) in Melbourne.

    We were actively encouraged to lie to people, be very aggressive in our sales pitches, with mothers with prams, and the elderly in particular viewed as easy targets.

    On top of that, we were encouraged to participate in tax evasion, charity told us to get an ABN (Australian business number) where we could register ourselves as being self employed, invoicing the company we worked for, who would in turn pay is tax free, leaving it up to ourselves to declare tax. As a were paid barely minimum wage, this looked like they were paying us more (as no tax was deducted) as most of us were backpackers etc, every one was intent on buggering off home without paying a single cent on tax, and the marketing company knew it, and encouraged it.

    Days were long, (eight to eight give days a week) and the people working with me were generally dickheads for want of a better description.

    I got my own back on the tossers though, as over the space of a week, I got about fifty fellow back packers from my hostel to 'visit' whatever train station/shopping mall I was in on a particular day to sign up........


    Commission was paid on how many people I could convince to sign up with their bank details, and successfully commit to a monthly direct debit for so much a month.

    Thing is, once my commission was paid, (approx one week after getting my mates to'sign up'. All of them (as agreed) contacted their particular bank to cancel direct debits (well before the first installment could be deducted)!

    I got to see the whole of the east coast of Aus, work free for approx three Weeks due to I save the children charity. But even better than that, as top' chugger' that week, I got to ring a poxy bell they had, that top earners could ring at the top of the morning meetings (every morning we had compulsory meetings before being deployed like rats)

    That was the highlight of my first year in Australia, ringing that bell.... :rolleyes: (big swinging Mickey)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    The last time I chugged anything (a bottle of spicy gin mixed with a naggin of vodka), I rolled down a hill half naked and got nettle stings all over my ass.

    So do I get the job?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    I usually glare at them and say - "I have to return some videotapes."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    TheZohan wrote: »
    You don't have to abuse the chuggers, anytime I encounter them I say "thanks, I signed up with you guys last month". They have no comeback for that.

    It turns out they do: "Oh yeah? Where did you sign up? Who did you sign up with?" and finally "Would you like to increase your direct debit?"

    I must admit, I went mental at that little twat, and since then I haven't even given concern my loose change never mind a decent percentage of my income, there are more deserving charities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    enfield wrote: »
    Why not just give them incorrect bank details? They will get fired when the thing bounces back and it wastes their time and their bosses time just like they do ours.

    just give them the direct debit details of other charities.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    About 6 months after the make poverty history campaign, I flashed one of them my white wrist band thinking they would leave me alone. No, he tried signing me up to their lastest campaign instead.

    :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    Just tell them you're not 18, they can't talk to you then!!!!! I'm well over 18 and I haven't had one argue with me yet about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Ah it wouldnt be as fun....

    - Chatting up all the young girls
    - Going to secret seminars where we'd learn hypnotic hand shake techniques
    - More seminars to spot the most vunerable people
    - Use peoples direct debits to pay for all our drinks and drugs on the CEOs yacht


    Ah how I miss saving little babies in Africa.

    Do you learn what kind of people to go for? I'm most definitely targeted by chuggers. They practically leg it across the whole street to talk to me. Is it my nose ring do you reckon? What kinds of people are you told to target??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    Do you learn what kind of people to go for? I'm most definitely targeted by chuggers. They practically leg it across the whole street to talk to me. Is it my nose ring do you reckon? What kinds of people are you told to target??

    Girls walking on their own are prime targets. The theory is they will be easier to intimidate than men or groups. Same reason the elderly and mothers pushing prams get targeted more than others. So if you walk around on your own a good bit that may have something to do with it Eve.

    God I hate the slimy fuckers...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Is having dreadlocks a prerequisite for becoming a chugger? Quite alot of them seem to either have dreadlocks of be polish blondes for the asthma society, there was this polish blonde doing jones's road this year leading up to Croker before all the GAA matches but she was selling scratch cars rather than looking for a Direct Debit, bought one myself as I nearly died several times as a kid with the disease until I grew out of it, never got anything from the asthma society though other than flyer in the docs office telling me what I already knew.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭psychward


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Is having dreadlocks a prerequisite for becoming a chugger?

    I've often asked myself this profound question. Common features are: Dreadlocks and those baggy Indian type Goa pants that hang off your ass and look shapeless, an Australian/ backpacker accent and the ability to whine : ''What are you doing to save the planet mannnnnnnn'' . Either that or a tendency towards campness and obesity combined with bitchy comments when you ignore them as you walk by. Chuggers exist purely to take the piss out of us all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    Do you learn what kind of people to go for? I'm most definitely targeted by chuggers. They practically leg it across the whole street to talk to me. Is it my nose ring do you reckon? What kinds of people are you told to target??

    no the charity i worked for didn't tell you to ask a certain profile of person - you just must be pretty.
    strobe wrote: »
    Girls walking on their own are prime targets. The theory is they will be easier to intimidate than men or groups. Same reason the elderly and mothers pushing prams get targeted more than others. So if you walk around on your own a good bit that may have something to do with it Eve.

    God I hate the slimy fuckers...

    lol save it for the conspiracy theory forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭dannydiamond


    The chuggers in Waterford are a particularly aggressive bunch.

    http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/article.php?id=352

    UP TO three hundred innocent people are feared to be trapped in John Roberts Square today after a team of strategically placed charity workers invaded Waterford city at around 10am.

    Brandishing fake smiles and clip boards, the team of three men and four women surrounded the pedestrianised city square this morning, cleverly ignoring passersby entering the 'trap'. It has been reported that once people are inside, they are then confronted on all exit routes leaving the square.

    Gardai have told WWN that all exits, including Georges court, has been targeted by the gorilla charity group.

    Garda Terry Walsh said: "We believe there is no way out at this time. And unless these people start negotiating with the charity workers there is nothing we can do."

    "The Garda Siochana have been in contact with the Concern Charity and they have confirmed that the 'chuggers' will be leaving the city centre around 6pm this evening."

    Garda Walsh added that supplies of food and water will be transported into John Roberts Square later on this afternoon.

    Worried family and friends of the victims were asked to stay vigilant and not to try anything stupid.

    "My wife has been trapped there for 4 hours now." said 35-year-old Thomas Keane.

    "She only went down the town to get a few things out of Pennys."

    "I got the phone call while I was in work. Of course I had to leave straight away, but Gardai stopped me trying to enter the area.

    "My wife said theres hundreds of people just wandering around aimlessly looking for a gap in the Concern workers attention."

    However, some people did manage to escape the square unscathed.

    Businessman George Kinsella told WWN earlier that he snuck out by just pretending he was on the phone.

    He said "I caught the bitches cringy smiley face in the corner of my eye.

    "Luckily I had my shades on, or the leech would have seen me.

    "I immediately put the phone up to my ear and started talking. I could feel her eyes burning into the side of my head. She waved frantically. I shouted down the phone as if I was angry. I could hear her saying: ''scuse me sir, do you have a few minutes?'.

    "I just kept walking towards O'Connell street. She threw herself down on to the ground and bear hugged my leg. I dragged her for several feet before eventually slamming her off a bin outside T&H's.

    "I just legged it then. I didn't turn back."

    Another man stated he got out through the side door of Supermacs, but reports have come back saying that it is now also covered by one of the charity workers.

    WWN will give up-to-date bulletins between now and 6 o clock.

    If you are concerned about any family member or friend please ring Ballybricken Garda station on 051-305311.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭CashMoney


    Ghandee wrote: »
    I worked for these tits many years ago (eight years ago exactly) in Melbourne.

    We were actively encouraged to lie to people, be very aggressive in our sales pitches, with mothers with prams, and the elderly in particular viewed as easy targets.

    On top of that, we were encouraged to participate in tax evasion, charity told us to get an ABN (Australian business number) where we could register ourselves as being self employed, invoicing the company we worked for, who would in turn pay is tax free, leaving it up to ourselves to declare tax. As a were paid barely minimum wage, this looked like they were paying us more (as no tax was deducted) as most of us were backpackers etc, every one was intent on buggering off home without paying a single cent on tax, and the marketing company knew it, and encouraged it.

    Days were long, (eight to eight give days a week) and the people working with me were generally dickheads for want of a better description.

    I got my own back on the tossers though, as over the space of a week, I got about fifty fellow back packers from my hostel to 'visit' whatever train station/shopping mall I was in on a particular day to sign up........


    Commission was paid on how many people I could convince to sign up with their bank details, and successfully commit to a monthly direct debit for so much a month.

    Thing is, once my commission was paid, (approx one week after getting my mates to'sign up'. All of them (as agreed) contacted their particular bank to cancel direct debits (well before the first installment could be deducted)!

    I got to see the whole of the east coast of Aus, work free for approx three Weeks due to I save the children charity. But even better than that, as top' chugger' that week, I got to ring a poxy bell they had, that top earners could ring at the top of the morning meetings (every morning we had compulsory meetings before being deployed like rats)

    That was the highlight of my first year in Australia, ringing that bell.... :rolleyes: (big swinging Mickey)

    This sounds very familiar to me. Did the company owner drive an Audi TT and did you have to listen to 'Hey Ya' every morning at the morning meetings by any chance? I rang a similar (same?) bell in Melbourne 8 years ago...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Oranage2 wrote: »

    Also this job isnt for everybody - Not only do you have to get past a tough interview process you also then have to preform everyday.

    A bitch, isnt it...Thats called Work, welcome to our world.


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