Bruce Springsteen General Discussion Thread

The Nal · 10-02-2016 2:08pm

BullBlackNova wrote: »

That said, I'd much rather Bob Dylan did a heritage tour than his new stuff

I'm the opposite. Loved Dylans last few gigs here. And all new stuff really. Well, 21st century stuff.

Nothing like a band in full creative flow on the road. Bruce had it from the Rising up until this tour. Dropping exciting new songs. Even though Working on a Dream was total pants, he still believed it. Bowie had it when he played here in 2003 on the Reality tour. Good album. I wish McCartney would play more new stuff. His last album was a belter.

Basically, Bruce is just too good to waste a year on this.

PTH2009 · 10-02-2016 2:37pm

i wonder will he break the album sequence up in the euro legs ???

he will start with meet me in the city/ the ties that bind and stop after 'i wanna marry you' and play other songs and then go back and finish off the river album going into the encore after that.

flasher0030 · 10-02-2016 2:38pm

Surely, over the next couple of weeks, it will be become apparent to almost everybody that he will be playing the whole album first, and then various hits - either through media or word of mouth. At that point, the gig-goer will think to themselves - I better listen to that album so. And persevere with it until it becomes familiar.

Just pointing out what I would do. I know not everyone will do this, but even if the majority do, it might lessen the flat atmosphere.

Wooderson · 10-02-2016 2:50pm

I think trying to preempt what will or won't happen at these shows is moot at this point.

woodyg · 10-02-2016 3:28pm

So no one got wind of the early bird code for tomorrow then?
Will be hitting ticketmaster hard at 8.55am so

Seve OB · 10-02-2016 3:34pm

Anyone have any idea about the Sunday show and when it is likely to go on sale?

BullBlackNova · 10-02-2016 3:36pm

adrian522 wrote: »

I hope there aren't too many people going who feel they have to "sit through" a load of songs they don't like. Not sure why they would given the prices though.

omicron wrote: »

To be fair there is a big TV advertising campaign for this gig and it strongly emphasises that the river album will be played in full. This has been running for days now, and to be honest if you spend over 100 euro on a gig without even looking at the name of the tour you kind of have it coming.

Agree with both points here.

But I hark back to Neil Young & Crazy Horse at the RDS a few years ago, and at the Marquee 2 years ago. Both NY & Crazy Horse gigs, not Neil Young solo, and people complained that he didnt play enough solo material at both. (there were other issues at the RDS show tbf but...) It wasn't a solo gig - shouldn't be expected to play the hits.

Similarly, Dylan at the Marquee (I live in Cork so it's easy to get to these ones!!) played a lot from his most recent album (the name escapes me) on the promo tour for that album, as was to be expected. But streams of people afterwards complaining he didn't play the hits, etc.

Even as recently as a Sinead O'Connor gig in the Opera House in Cork last summer, no 'Nothing Compares 2 U' - she had made a big announcement just weeks before that it wasn't going to be played anymore - and there were complaints.

You're giving the concert going public an awful lot of credit if you think they do as much research as a lot of the people on here would.

This is a 'River' tour, but even people who know that might not anticipate the album to be played in full over the first half of the show.

adrian522 · 10-02-2016 3:42pm

There was a note on the ticketmaster site earlier in the week saying that it would be a full double album set of the river and not a greatest hits set, but it seems to be gone now.

Assuming that notice is there when buying tickets there should be no complaints,

scruff monkey · 10-02-2016 3:43pm

flasher0030 wrote: »

Surely, over the next couple of weeks, it will be become apparent to almost everybody that he will be playing the whole album first, and then various hits - either through media or word of mouth. At that point, the gig-goer will think to themselves - I better listen to that album so. And persevere with it until it becomes familiar.

Just pointing out what I would do. I know not everyone will do this, but even if the majority do, it might lessen the flat atmosphere.

The majority won't, most people don't go to gigs, they might do the odd big one every few years, people don't buy music or pay attention to popular culture as it changes.

They'll see an advert for Springsteen/Van de Man etc... and wander along assuming that they'll hear their favourite songs and get shocked when they discover that as their musical tastes stagnated from when they had time to listen (before family/work etc.. caught up), the world and the artist have moved on far beyond that and they'll not enjoy the gig. They'll have bought their ticket and assume that it's all they have to do.

This place might be a hive of ferbrile discussion, but you have to realise that it and probably any mates that you go gigging with (at the moment) are like little echo chambers of similar minds (but not necessarily tastes)

Seve OB · 10-02-2016 4:01pm

scruff monkey wrote: »

The majority won't, most people don't go to gigs, they might do the odd big one every few years, people don't buy music or pay attention to popular culture as it changes.

They'll see an advert for Springsteen/Van de Man etc... and wander along assuming that they'll hear their favourite songs and get shocked when they discover that as their musical tastes stagnated from when they had time to listen (before family/work etc.. caught up), the world and the artist have moved on far beyond that and they'll not enjoy the gig. They'll have bought their ticket and assume that it's all they have to do.

This place might be a hive of ferbrile discussion, but you have to realise that it and probably any mates that you go gigging with (at the moment) are like little echo chambers of similar minds (but not necessarily tastes)

I see where you are coming from but I disagree. I would say these people who see the adverts and decide to tip along to their once in a blue moon gig, would more be hoping to hear their favourite songs rather than assuming. Pretty much every music tour is generally formed upon recent album releases and they might then throw in some of the classics. Anybody who ever goes to a gig will understand that.

Obvious this particular gig is a bit different as there is no new album so the world may have moved but the artist has fallen back in time, so actually there is more of a chance these blue mooners might know a few of the numbers and probably will enjoy the gig.

I have brought my other half to loads of gigs that she really had no interest in going to. But she has never failed to enjoy herself, so it will be what you make of it.

CiaranK · 10-02-2016 4:09pm

Breaking down the river set its paced quite well apart from some of the slower songs being back to back:

Songs 1 - 6: Meet Me in the city (as opener), Ties That Bind, Sherry Darling, Jackson Cage and Two Hearts. All fast upbeat songs
Song 7: Independence Day calms things down for one song
Song 8 - 10: Hungry Heart (massive hit), Out In The Street (big sing along), Crush on You again all faster songs
Song 11 - 13: Marry you, The River, Point Blank. Slow sequence but with a big hit in there.
Song 14 - 15: Cadillac Ranch, I'm a Rocker. Fast upbeat again
Song 16 - 17: Fade Away, Stolen Car. Slow sequence again
Song 18: Ramrod brings it back up
Song 19 - 21: Price you pay, drive all night and wreck on the highway. A slow sequence to end the set

Next 13 or so songs are packed with the big hits.

I can't see many people being disappointed after the show, even looking at past setlists from irish shows there's always plenty of acoustic/slow songs and other songs that non die hards wouldn't be too familiar with

woodyg · 10-02-2016 4:26pm

CiaranK wrote: »

Breaking down the river set its paced quite well apart from some of the slower songs being back to back:

Songs 1 - 6: Meet Me in the city (as opener), Ties That Bind, Sherry Darling, Jackson Cage and Two Hearts. All fast upbeat songs
Song 7: Independence Day calms things down for one song
Song 8 - 10: Hungry Heart (massive hit), Out In The Street (big sing along), Crush on You again all faster songs
Song 11 - 13: Marry you, The River, Point Blank. Slow sequence but with a big hit in there.
Song 14 - 15: Cadillac Ranch, I'm a Rocker. Fast upbeat again
Song 16 - 17: Fade Away, Stolen Car. Slow sequence again
Song 18: Ramrod brings it back up
Song 19 - 21: Price you pay, drive all night and wreck on the highway. A slow sequence to end the set

Next 13 or so songs are packed with the big hits.

I can't see many people being disappointed after the show, even looking at past setlists from irish shows there's always plenty of acoustic/slow songs and other songs that non die hards wouldn't be too familiar with

Only disappointment i will have is not getting tickets!
It's the Boss doing a stadium gig i seriously can't see anything wrong with this.
This will be gig 10 for me and that includes outdoor and "smaller" indoor north american venues.
If i don't get Euro tickets this week i will try cheer myself up with tickets for both nights of this!

Wooderson · 10-02-2016 4:39pm

CiaranK wrote: »

Breaking down the river set its paced quite well apart from some of the slower songs being back to back:

Songs 1 - 6: Meet Me in the city (as opener), Ties That Bind, Sherry Darling, Jackson Cage and Two Hearts. All fast upbeat songs
Song 7: Independence Day calms things down for one song
Song 8 - 10: Hungry Heart (massive hit), Out In The Street (big sing along), Crush on You again all faster songs
Song 11 - 13: Marry you, The River, Point Blank. Slow sequence but with a big hit in there.
Song 14 - 15: Cadillac Ranch, I'm a Rocker. Fast upbeat again
Song 16 - 17: Fade Away, Stolen Car. Slow sequence again
Song 18: Ramrod brings it back up
Song 19 - 21: Price you pay, drive all night and wreck on the highway. A slow sequence to end the set

Next 13 or so songs are packed with the big hits.

I can't see many people being disappointed after the show, even looking at past setlists from irish shows there's always plenty of acoustic/slow songs and other songs that non die hards wouldn't be too familiar with

Actually a really nice analysis. Reports from the US are that the band are in superb form. Stripped down, leaner sound with Bruce adding some really lovely touches to the River "piece".

Who takes heed of what "the man in the street" says anyway? The Crazy Horse show in the RDS was incredible yet slated. This might be the same. And? If you care enough, you'll be right in the mix up the front and loving it.

Mint Sauce · 10-02-2016 4:56pm

Will be brutally honest, I know the hits, and some of the less familar ones, with one of my favourite Springsteen songs being Racing In The Street, which I discovered during a night dedicated to him on BBC2 a good few years ago.

Knowing the gig is going to be The River in full plus a whole load other songs, I have been listening to it, the hits I know, but on a first listen, there are some other excellent songs on there, and absolutely, cant wait, looking forward to being there come May.

interlocked · 10-02-2016 5:34pm

Listening at all the talk about casual fans not knowing a lot of the songs on the River, I did a bit of looking at the numbers, I was pretty surprised at the results, 11 of the songs were performed on the Wrecking Ball tour in 2012-13, three in the RDS in 2009 and the remaining 6 have never been played in Ireland.

Something there for everyone

1. The Ties That Bind Belfast 2013, RDS 2012
2. Sherry Darling Cork 2013
3. Jackson Cage Belfast 2013, RDS 2012
4. Two Hearts (W/ It Takes Two ending) RDS 2012
5. Independence Day NEVER PLAYED IN IRELAND
6. Hungry Heart Limerick 2013
7. Out in the Street Kilkenny 2013
8. Crush On You NEVER PLAYED IN EUROPE
9. You Can Look (But You Better Not Touch) RDS 2009
10. I Wanna Marry You (W/ Here She Comes intro) NEVER PLAYED IN IRELAND
11. The River Kilkenny 2013
12. Point Blank NEVER PERFORMED IN IRELAND
13. Cadillac Ranch Belfast 2013
14. I'm A Rocker RDS 2012
15. Fade Away Belfast 2013
16. Stolen Car NEVER PERFORMED IN IRELAND
17. Ramrod RDS 2009
18. The Price You Pay Cork 2013
19. Drive All Night Kilkenny 2013
20. Wreck on the Highway NEVER PERFORMED IN IRELAND

interlocked · 10-02-2016 5:34pm

The Nal · 10-02-2016 5:45pm

Theres a reason he's never played Crush and You and I Wanna Marry You. They're sh1t!

Independence Day though. Superb.

About 38 mins here

https://vimeo.com/147174188