Diesel Vs Petrol prices

chinwag

Example shown is for 8,000 kms a year. But surely this is ideal mileage for a petrol engine? Also, the purchase price of each car (petrol/diesel) is not mentioned - this would be a significant factor in cost difference - but it is omitted in the costings.

C4Kid

We are shooting Ourselves in the foot, Everyone whos buying diesel because (they think their saving money) is forcing the price to rise because of higher demand. This in turn makes the costs of goods rise for Everyone. Circles and roundabouts idea, Your gonna end up paying for it somehow.

It's almost like the housing boom, we all see it coming but We're still gonna buy into it because the done thing and we'll worry about it when it happens. No doubt the haulage companies will be up in arms after the budget.

Bandara

Derv has been at an artificial low for a good while now due to the proliferation of washed fuel driving the price down as the clean stations are trying to keep in touch (even though its impossible), the margin on Derv has been non existant for close to a year now, which is obviously unsustainable.

Dervs correct retail price at the moment should actually be higher than unl for the past month. We price on a weekly/two weekly basis in the Republic whereas the UK do it on a daily basis. Hence why the North has had retail derv more expensive than unl for the past 3 weeks or so.

Also the Home Heating demand always puts a few cents on derv as they are derived from the same base products as far as I know.

Bottom line is your going to see derv overtake unl very very soon everywhere and stay that way until March next year.

You may all now shoot the messenger.

Top Dog

Have noticed the price of diesel creeping up slowly over the last 2 weeks, by a cent here and there which no-one pays much attention to. But after 2 weeks now the difference in price between the diesel compared to the unleaded has shrunk to near non-existant. I spotted the same station as EPM this evening, 147.9/l for both the diesel and the unleaded. The station I use most often (on North ring in Cork city) still has a 3c difference between the two, with the diesel still being the cheaper.

Shopping around has to be done these days. I paid 142.9/l tonight for my fuel, 1km down the road it was 5c/l dearer. On a full tank thats €4. Doesn't sound like much, but when you're filling your tank on a weekly basis it soon adds up!

C4Kid

Top Dog wrote: »

Have noticed the price of diesel creeping up slowly over the last 2 weeks, by a cent here and there which no-one pays much attention to. But after 2 weeks now the difference in price between the diesel compared to the unleaded has shrunk to near non-existant. I spotted the same station as EPM this evening, 147.9/l for both the diesel and the unleaded. The station I use most often (on North ring in Cork city) still has a 3c difference between the two, with the diesel still being the cheaper.

Shopping around has to be done these days. I paid 142.9/l tonight for my fuel, 1km down the road it was 5c/l dearer. On a full tank thats €4. Doesn't sound like much, but when you're filling your tank on a weekly basis it soon adds up!

Texaco in Douglas has 149.9 for both petrol and diesel, crazy it's always expensive there!

Top Dog

C4Kid wrote: »

Texaco in Douglas has 149.9 for both petrol and diesel, crazy it's always expensive there!

:eek::eek::eek:

C4Kid

Earlier tonight I passed two Topaz stations in Cork and both had diesel 1c more then petrol:eek:

It had dropped by 1c less then petrol for about a day and then equalised again and now it's dearer then petrol.

Captain Slow IRL

It's the same with the 2 stations I mentioned in the first post as well, both 1c dearer than petrol/litre.

Rodin

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Oh for the old days!

And they give 20% on the sterling too! Oh to be a border fox.

Honey-ec

chinwag wrote: »

Example shown is for 8,000 kms a year.

Ah, if only! I do 43,700km a year commuting only; that's without even touching the car at weekends.

I currently spend a quarter of my net income on diesel. I'm genuinely beginning to wonder at what point it will no longer be worth my while commuting.

Blazer

still about 4c cheaper down in limerick...
It's a complete joke at this stage....hopefully libya get back to full production within a few months and we see prices dropping....

of course the conspriacy guys would suspect the government are quite happy to keep prices high to bring in more revenue...or another crisis will happen somewhere else to keep it high.....but then again you'd have to crazy to believe that......or would you? :eek:

Top Dog

Just wait till the budget. Bit of a VAT increase, bit more on excise duty ... may as well throw in a bit more carbon tax too ... won't be too long before we've shot past €1.60/l for diesel

C4Kid

Top Dog wrote: »

Just wait till the budget. Bit of a VAT increase, bit more on excise duty ... may as well throw in a bit more carbon tax too ... won't be too long before we've shot past €1.60/l for diesel

The tax new carbon tax on petrol will probably be more then diesel too as they struggle to continue subsidizing diesel.

Just got the weekly fuelcard price update.

From tomorrow petrol is 146.48l and Diesel will be 148.81l

ofcork

Got petrol last night on the north ring road in cork 143.9 and their diesel was 145.9.

Top Dog

ofcork wrote: »

Got petrol last night on the north ring road in cork 143.9 and their diesel was 145.9.

If it was O'Callaghans, the diesel is 144.9 today

ofcork

No the one around the corner although both seem to match their prices.

alias no.9

C4Kid wrote: »

The tax new carbon tax on petrol will probably be more then diesel too as they struggle to continue subsidizing diesel.

It ain't a carbon tax if it cost more per litre on petrol than diesel, diesel produces nearly 15% more CO2 per litre than petrol.

IsaacWunder

Sc@recrow wrote: »

still about 4c cheaper down in limerick...

Er, no. All the filling stations in Dooradoyle are either the same for petrol/diesel or 1c cheaper for diesel.

Basq

Coming home from getting my Friday night Chinese (person.. not meal.. obviously!), and noticed 2 seperate "service stations" (an Excol and an Esso) had their diesel priced at 4c more than petrol.

I thought that's gotta be a mistake.. but even Pumps.ie has a reading down for yesterday as:

Petrol: Excol, Mail Coach Road, Sligo - 143.9 - 17th Nov
Diesel: Excol, Mail Coach Road, Sligo - 147.9 - 17th Nov

Any reason why the sharp jump or has there gotta be a balls-
up somewhere?

Dartz

Standard winter diesel increase.

Need to have dual fuel cars. Only reason a diesel can't run on petrol is the fuel pumps. It shouldn't be impossible to design a fuel pump that can handle both. And would allow drivers to select the cheapest fuel.

Basq

Dartz wrote: »

Standard winter diesel increase.

Wasn't aware of this as don't drive a diesel.

Average of Pumps.ie is still (not to be taken as gospel obviously!):

Petrol: 149.9c
Diesel: 145.9c

Alanstrainor

Right, i've merged your thread with this one Basq. There's been quite a few about the same thing recently. May as well get them all together.

bazz26

All those sheep who do feck all mileage but went out and bought diesel cars because they were cheaper to tax, diesel was a few cent cheaper at the pump and because everyone else were doing the same are now giving out because diesel has risen above petrol prices.

I wonder now will there be an influx of "uneconomical" diesel cars traded in for new petrol ones come January?

dr.fuzzenstein

Dartz wrote: »

Standard winter diesel increase.

Need to have dual fuel cars. Only reason a diesel can't run on petrol is the fuel pumps. It shouldn't be impossible to design a fuel pump that can handle both. And would allow drivers to select the cheapest fuel.

Where to start...

dr.fuzzenstein

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Where to start...

Surely a p1ss take ........

Tragedy

Isn't there a new mazda engine that's the same block for both diesel/petrol? Runs the same compression ratio(very high for a petrol and very low for a diesel).

... not really the notion that was suggested though.

Tragedy

RoverJames wrote: »

... not really the notion that was suggested though.

Does his comment really need to be talked about further, in fairness?

Le_Dieux

Sobanek wrote: »

132.9 unleaded
126.9 diesel

14th of Nov, 2010 prices on the same station that wants 145.9 for unleaded and 146.9 for diesel today.

What station Sobanek? I noticed yesterday the one up near Wyeth was cheaper than MCL, something I never seen before - though by the time I got home last night, the station had upped its prices again.

These bastards ( for me ) are running a cartel. MCL is a wholesaler/supplier and should be cheaper than most. I bought in The Applegreen in Celbridge yesterday @ €144.8/lt. They ain't selling at a loss, so just how much profit is there in a litre? Thats why i don't buy this BS about the price automatically rising this time of year because of the elements.

Another thing: The garage on the quay which was found guilty last week doctoring its measurements, they are selling at €141.9/lt yesterday - now they must also be making a profit ( surely they aren't that effing stupid to be still selling under false measurement pretences).

Sorry for my rant, I just don't buy this crap about the time of year nonsense.