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Ireland's Drinking Problem

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    People don't drink to help with their nerves, we drink to have a good time, let the hair down or whatever. Why do you say we are a nervous country? Also, I doubt meditation would do much. We often did it in 5th and 6th year and all it did was allow us to catch up on sleep we missed out on the night before.

    Yes people drink to have a good time, the more nervous you are generally the harder it is to have a good time sober. Drink will always make people more relaxed but the difference between how relaxed you are when sober and drunk would decrease and less alcohol would be consumed as it would have less value to people.

    Teaching people to learn how to relax imo is the answer, how that's done on a national basis is another question.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,193 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    That's what we're waiting for...

    Nervously! :pac:

    Well, while I wait........


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,193 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    leggo wrote: »
    Go out in Ireland's major cities on any given night and compare it to other major European cities (not tourist ones filled with Irish and British people) and you'll see that we do have a much bigger culture of drink than many other places.

    This simply isn't true.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Scanlas, what are you basing this "nervous" stuff on?

    Completely anecdotal from my own experiences, can't show you any proof.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I think we need to educate the public about the dangers of alcohol. We need to educate children about alcohol in schools. I was taught nothing in school about alcohol. I think this is part of the catholic school structure's tendancy to think "They shouldn't be doing that so we're not going to teach them about it"..

    Agreed.

    There should be a health and well-being class or something along those lines.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Gingko


    In general the Irish social scene is way too drink orientated. I come from a broken home myself, one of countless in Ireland from alcohol abuse. Delighted to see café culture finally getting a grip for those of us wanting more sincere socialising and the new drink driving laws are helping too.

    One or two drinks in a pub enjoying the craic is no harm as long as it stays like that unfortunately for many it doesn't?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    The major reaction from people I've talked to following last Friday nights match was not "Yes, we've qualified for the Euros, go out there and compeeeeete!" but rather "Yes!!! Three excuses for a piss up next Juuuuuuune!!!" :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    By the way OP, the thought that Ireland has a bigger "drinking problem" than other countries is a complete myth!

    We don't drink more than most of the big countries in Europe! It's a stereotype that we drink all the time.


    The EU commissioned a report in 2006 on European drinking habits & while it found that we drink less than a lot of countries on a daily basis, that when we do drink, we drink substantially more than our European counterparts.

    Link: http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/ebs/ebs_272b_en.pdf


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    The EU commissioned a report in 2006 on European drinking habits & while it found that we drink less than a lot of countries on a daily basis, that when we do drink, we drink substantially more than our European counterparts.

    Link: http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/ebs/ebs_272b_en.pdf

    and when we do drink most it's usually when socialising when it makes sober people most nervous.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,193 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    The EU commissioned a report in 2006 on European drinking habits & while it found that we drink less than a lot of countries on a daily basis, that when we do drink, we drink substantially more than our European counterparts.

    Link: http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/ebs/ebs_272b_en.pdf

    I suggest you edit that post.

    This is AH. You're not supposed to use facts to back yourself up!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 332 ✭✭Shattered Dreamer


    I'm really beginning to get sick of this whole anti-Irish sentiment when it comes to alcohol. I feel sorry for anybody who's life has been damaged from the effects of alcohol but sorry stop trying to ruin it for the rest of us by say every Irish person is a god damn alcohol because these cases are relatively isolated & this new government report about 1/2 children being in danger my alcohol is utter bullsh*t.

    Given that we are a minority nation in the EU as much as I hate to say it we may need to start playing the discrimination card because most of the sentiment coming from the OP is based on stereotypical racism.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Scanlas, what are you basing this "nervous" stuff on?

    I asked someone before and they told me it was nerves
    i told them to try just for one evening to cope with the nerves without drink, at a party. they said after they'd had a great time and thanked me for pushing it
    so i think there are cases where it is true


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    I'm really beginning to get sick of this whole anti-Irish sentiment when it comes to alcohol. I feel sorry for anybody who's life has been damaged from the effects of alcohol but sorry stop trying to ruin it for the rest of us by say every Irish person is a god damn alcohol because these cases are relatively isolated & this new government report about 1/2 children being in danger my alcohol is utter bullsh*t.

    Given that we are a minority nation in the EU as much as I hate to say it we may need to start playing the discrimination card because most of the sentiment coming from the OP is based on stereotypical racism.

    Just my honest observations, it that makes me a racist in your book then so be it. I've no problem with people drinking to enjoy themselves. Life is short and people just want to have a good time. From my experience it appears to me Irish people tend to be more nervous in social situations than a lot of other nations. I think that's why we resort to drinking so much.


  • Registered Users Posts: 332 ✭✭Shattered Dreamer


    bluewolf wrote: »
    I asked someone before and they told me it was nerves
    i told them to try just for one evening to cope with the nerves without drink, at a party. they said after they'd had a great time and thanked me for pushing it
    so i think there are cases where it is true

    True based on the opinion of one person you met at a party wow I'm convinced


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    True based on the opinion of one person you met at a party wow I'm convinced

    i didn't meet them at a party. i didn't say it was always true.
    has all the alcohol fried your brain?
    bluewolf wrote:
    so i think there are cases where it is true


  • Registered Users Posts: 332 ✭✭Shattered Dreamer


    Just my honest observations, it that makes me a racist in your book then so be it. I've no problem with people drinking to enjoy themselves. Life is short and people just want to have a good time. From my experience it appears to me Irish people tend to be more nervous in social situations than a lot of other nations. I think that's why we resort to drinking so much.

    What Irish people have you ever met? Apart from you met them at a therapy session designed to deal with nerves I don't know where you met them. And maybe I'm being harsh on you OP but if not racist you're definitely overly judgemental but your underlying sentiments are racist just fyi


  • Registered Users Posts: 332 ✭✭Shattered Dreamer


    bluewolf wrote: »
    has all the alcohol fried your brain?

    I think you may need to lay off the mocachinos buddy because all that caffeine has fried yours.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    We need a popcorn smiley.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,193 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Given that we are a minority nation in the EU as much as I hate to say it we may need to start playing the discrimination card because most of the sentiment coming from the OP is based on stereotypical racism.

    Lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 332 ✭✭Shattered Dreamer


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Lol

    Everybody else does it against us so f**k them why not:p


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭StephenHendry


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Lol

    the drinking culture is part of who we are , whether we like it or not and what makes us very popular across the world. there are other countries like denmark who drink a lot heavier than us


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    If I'm doing something nerve-enducing, ie going to a big event, meeting new people, or going on a date, drink is usually the last thing I want.

    I prefer going into these situations head first, with all my faculties intact, so that I'm in full control of myself and won't come out with a load of inappropriate rubbish...


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,193 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Everybody else does it against us so f**k them why not:p

    Everyone else? What's that supposed to mean? non Irish?

    Racist!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Everybody else does it against us so f**k them why not:p

    The best way to deal with people who stereotype the Irish is for us to get drunk and beat the shite out of them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 332 ✭✭Shattered Dreamer


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Everyone else? What's that supposed to mean? non Irish?

    Racist!

    Well if I'm being branded an alcoholic why not a racist alcoholic :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,193 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Well if I'm being branded an alcoholic why not a racist alcoholic :pac:

    Let's not bring the Scottish into this!


  • Registered Users Posts: 332 ✭✭Shattered Dreamer


    The best way to deal with people who stereotype the Irish is for us to get drunk and beat the shite out of them.

    Go get some hurleys, a few cans of Guinness stout & we'll show these gob****es what's what!


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,475 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    This thread is making me nevous


    *pours whiskey


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭mickrock


    I wish alcohol was less more-ish.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    What Irish people have you ever met? Apart from you met them at a therapy session designed to deal with nerves I don't know where you met them. And maybe I'm being harsh on you OP but if not racist you're definitely overly judgemental but your underlying sentiments are racist just fyi

    From what I can tell Irish people are nervous, why do you think we drink so much?


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