Big "beautiful" women, are some overweight women really this delusional?

stupidusername

Wtf are people saying this is sexist for,the thread was started about women,so obviously it's going to be about women.

And the people saying it is no ones business what fat people do or think,well it is when it's insulting to call people fat but not to call them skinny. Or when the increasing levels of obesity in the country are leading to an increased health bill for the taxpayer. It's the general health of the nation people should be concerned about, I don't see anything wrong with that. And as I said before it's not healthy to let people delude themselves into thinking fat is acceptable. It's a dangerous form of PCness

happo wrote: »

I think a good way to gauge how someone feels about their body is to look at their facebook profile pic.

If all you see is a close up of the face or a black and white photo, must of the time you can believe they not happy with the shape of their body!

BS.

cock robin

I love big women

the_syco

SCIENTIFIC PROOF!!!

LeeHoffmann

I'm putting down the hot chocolate...

saa

Yeah this thread isn't about overweight people or you hating them its about BBW culture (I think) which is completely messed up, not because some lad like bigger women its because from what I've seen a lot of this Fat admirers are never satisfied always making their women bigger or wishing they were.
Completely ****ed up in that case.

Kanoe

18 pages, didn't read them all but I do know some big women who are genuinely beautiful.

Shenshen

Kanoe wrote: »

18 pages, didn't read them all but I do know some big women who are genuinely beautiful.

I read the OP, and I had to wonder if he has the same problem whenever he hears the term "hot readhead", since obviously nobody with red hair can possibly be beautiful? :rolleyes:;)

Kaneda_

I never see women drool over a large man,they always want 6 packs and low body fat.

Its just a way for them to justify being overweight.

Are they aware of the health risks of being fat?

Kanoe

Shenshen wrote: »

I read the OP, and I had to wonder if he has the same problem whenever he hears the term "hot readhead", since obviously nobody with red hair can possibly be beautiful? :rolleyes:;)

red heads are insanely hot, hot being a poor substitute for beautiful. Definitely beautiful though, even if they are a little bit crazy sometimes. (I only say this to keep the flame haired woman happy, she is hot though..and very crazy albeit in a good way)

Feisar

Kaneda_ wrote: »

I never see women drool over a large man,they always want 6 packs and low body fat.

Its just a way for them to justify being overweight.

Are they aware of the health risks of being fat?

Am I aware of the health risks of:

drinking eight pints on a night out
driving while really tired
eating the odd take away
not getting my eight hours a night
stressing at work

I doubt any of us are innocent of doing things adverse to our health.

It's just so obvious with overweight people.

old hippy

Kanoe wrote: »

red heads are insanely hot, hot being a poor substitute for beautiful. Definitely beautiful though, even if they are a little bit crazy sometimes. (I only say this to keep the flame haired woman happy, she is hot though..and very crazy albeit in a good way)

Oh, come on. Red heads are crazy, blondes are dumb etc etc...

What is this; stereotypes corner?

:rolleyes:

Gummy Panda

Kaneda_ wrote: »

I never see women drool over a large man,they always want 6 packs and low body fat.

There is some who like big man. Now I don't mean a belly that requires a wheel under it but a guy with high BF% and bulky frame. A fat mesomorph.

stupidusername

Kaneda_ wrote: »

I never see women drool over a large man,they always want 6 packs and low body fat.

What?! How many women do you know? I dont want a man to have abs,it's as much a turn off as being too overweight is.

Kaneda_

Feisar wrote: »

Kaneda_ wrote: »

I never see women drool over a large man,they always want 6 packs and low body fat.

Its just a way for them to justify being overweight.

Are they aware of the health risks of being fat?

Am I aware of the health risks of:

drinking eight pints on a night out
driving while really tired
eating the odd take away
not getting my eight hours a night
stressing at work

I doubt any of us are innocent of doing things adverse to our health.

It's just so obvious with overweight people.

8 pints on a night out?

Lightweight!




(Joke)

ash23

dilbert2 wrote: »

I have never, once heard an overweight man refer to himself as a "big handsome man". Most seem to just accept that they are overweight and either laugh about it, or decide to lose to access weight

Actually, most would (in dating website terms) refer to himself as "cuddly" or "Big cuddly teddybear". Or "broad". Men try just as hard as women to convince others and themselves that their weight is attractive.

"Big cuddly man seeks BBW for love and romance" or "Grossly obese man seeks woman who is equally big for sex"

Kanoe

old hippy wrote: »

Oh, come on. Red heads are crazy, blondes are dumb etc etc...

What is this; stereotypes corner?

:rolleyes:

ha ha but she is. She definitely has a fiery nature, its all good though. (crazy in all the right places)

Snakeblood

happo wrote: »

I think a good way to gauge how someone feels about their body is to look at their facebook profile pic.

If all you see is a close up of the face or a black and white photo, must of the time you can believe they not happy with the shape of their body!

Maybe they're just not happy with their camerawork?

Speaking as a fat man with a profile picture of him in a lime green bodysuit doing the Bruce Lee fight stance.

Irish Guitarist

Why the hell does anyone care how someone else describes themselves?

bigneacy

dilbert2 wrote: »

I have never, once heard an overweight man refer to himself as a "big handsome man".

You clearly have not read my personal ads.

old hippy

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

Why the hell does anyone care how someone else describes themselves?

It appears some people do, grud knows why

saa

Kaneda_ wrote: »

I never see women drool over a large man,they always want 6 packs and low body fat.

Its just a way for them to justify being overweight.

Are they aware of the health risks of being fat?

No one has to justify being fat, you shouldn't be fat for your own benefit but hey some people are its not a big deal when I'm meeting people.

If I like a guy I'm going to like him what ever his body is like, I would never want or go looking for a abs or bones, on the other hand I don't go looking for really big guys he just needs to be cute, friendly and a critical thinker.


You might as well be saying Are you aware of the forgiveness and love Jesus has for you?

Yeah either way you're aware of the health problems but knowledge isn't the issue thats like saying to someone didn't you know having sex could get you pregnant!? Didn't you know?

If someone's over weight that's their issue blah blah, while I smoke that's my issue I don't care for others bitching about the health risks of that for me only if I was hurting someone else.

Fulton Crown

rambutman wrote: »

Really? Or are they settling for it? and i meant above with all other things being equal

Fat girl with personality VS Stunner with none

Fat girl wins out everytime

Yeah ! Fat is the new black......:)

Big Nasty

I dunno lads, there's a few big mares here I would rattle anyhow! :pac:

x in the city

xsiborg wrote: »

people who cant spell for shít are... oh, that's right, we're not supposed to pick on the illiterate on boards, they can't help it, apparently... now, lets get back to picking on the fatties instead, because this hasn't been done to death on this forum already...

i was secretively looking for the first person to notice the typo..

all in the name of research.

Dudess

In the case of very obese women it sometimes does seem delusional and denial - and it can be cringey and do no favours. Just adds to the ridicule. If a person is really overweight, they're dead right not to let it hold them back, but there's no point in being in denial - e.g. pretending it's unreasonable not to fancy them, people have preferences which they can't help. And they're in big trouble health-wise - no two ways about it.
My friend is by her own admission obese but still enjoys life, always makes an effort to look good etc. She's fairly confident - but she'd be the first to admit she isn't healthy.

x in the city

obese people only have them self to blame, 3 meals a day is enough for anyone.

people who down all manner of fry ups/mc$hits etc and god knows what else are only going to end up the wrong end of the weighing scale.

if it even reaches that weight...

Dermighty

bubbly personality....aka fat

Paddy Cow

If underweight girls were proudly displaying their bodies they'd get slatted for it. I saw an article of a girl who was a size 18/20 and the main headline was "I love my food and hate the gym". The article praised her for being proud of her "curvy" body. If it was a size 4/6 saying "I hate food and love the gym" she'd be ripped apart for being a bad role model. (Not saying size 4/6 hate food but just making a point).

Freddie59

skregs wrote: »

The bigger she is, the more that's there to make you puke.

So if a woman is heavy or overweight what is she to do? Remain hidden to satisfy the very obvious specimens posting on this thread? Oil paintings the lot of you!:D

dave3004

Fat people disgust me.

Take care of your bodies FFS !

The most important thing in your life is your health.

Miss Olenska

dave3004 wrote: »

Fat people disgust me.

Take care of your bodies FFS !

The most important thing in your life is your health.

Oh be quiet.

dave3004

Miss Olenska wrote: »

Oh be quiet.

Thanks for your input. :rolleyes:

I think Ireland needs to be more informed and alert to obesity as a nation.

I'm in Oz now and EVERY DAY there is a tv show called "The Biggest Loser" where obese people challenge themselves to lose the weight. It's great to see. And as usual, there are inspirational transformations. You see them crying with joy at the end and telling the camera how their life has changed.

They are not lying. It is a lifestyle choice. You can choose to be fat, lazy and constrict your options of activities in your daily life......or you can go for a jog once a week, have a game of tennis with a friend and moderate your consumption and enjoy a healthy life.

You can't get away from it over here. They really have health and wellbeing as part of the Australian culture. I think it's great. Joggers/Cyclists are everwhere and I think Ireland could learn a thing or two in regard to this issue.

Arpa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXTq2_3LfXM

Mr. Gervais sums it up

Eve_Dublin

dave3004 wrote: »

Thanks for your input. :rolleyes:

I think Ireland needs to be more informed and alert to obesity as a nation.

I'm in Oz now and EVERY DAY there is a tv show called "The Biggest Loser" where obese people challenge themselves to lose the weight. It's great to see. And as usual, there are inspirational transformations. You see them crying with joy at the end and telling the camera how their life has changed.

They are not lying. It is a lifestyle choice. You can choose to be fat, lazy and constrict your options of activities in your daily life......or you can go for a jog once a week, have a game of tennis with a friend and moderate your consumption and enjoy a healthy life.

You can't get away from it over here. They really have health and wellbeing as part of the Australian culture. I think it's great. Joggers/Cyclists are everwhere and I think Ireland could learn a thing or two in regard to this issue.

Australia also has the 6th biggest rate of obesity in the world (Ireland 13th) so they're actually worse in terms of health in that area than Ireland. And I know myself from living in a country with a hot climate how much easier it is to stay slim. Since moving to Spain, I've been consistantly the same weight just because eating healthily is cheaper and it's not peeing down from the heavens everyday (it rarely rains in Madrid), so you're motivated to go out for walk...it's even enjoyable. I was home in Ireland in August and had to leg it out for quick walks between rain showers and I came home soaked everytime. That's definitely a factor against us.

Also in a hot country you're showing more flesh. I'm still wandering around some day without a jacket and it's the end of November. In Ireland you're covered up most of the year and I think because we don't see our bodies so much, we can be inclined to kind of forget about them. That's my own theory anyway. The pressure to look good with less clothes is not as prevalent.

Not making excuses here but you have to understand there are factors going against the Irish trying to stay fit in comparison to people from a hot climate. It's not as enjoyable and because it's not as enjoyable, people feel less motivated.

And these kinds of threads basically slagging off fat women just knocks their confidence even more. People need encouragement, not to have the piss ripped out of them about their appearance.

Freddie59

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

And these kinds of threads basically slagging off fat women just knocks their confidence even more.

Indeed. It would be interesting to see the photos of some of the people involved in said slagging on this thread.;)

Jerri Jordan

I dont mind if bigger women call themselves big and beautiful. If it makes them feel good whats the problem. The world is too cruel a place as it is without calling people fat and obese.
I used to be overweight and it was a very unhappy period in my life. I had low self esteem culminating from coming from a very broken home growing I believe. When i got older I joined a gym and got my weight down to 9 and 1/2 stone. It was amazing how many guys suddenly started taking an interest in me. I went on a date with one guy I had always thought was out of my league. On the date all was going well till he said, you look amazing you know I never would have went out with you when you were fat. He was telling the truth, but sometimes there are things people just dont want to hear. I wouldnt date him again after that. It hurt me that my personality was not enough for him and I had the fear well if i ever put weight on again I know what he will be thinking.
Eventually I met a guy who had previously been 19 stone (he dieted and got down to 14 when i met him). He had no confidence cos no one had ever told him he was hot and gorgeous. which he as and is! I told him everyday how amazing he looked, he took time but eventually started believing me and his confidence soared and he lost a further 2 stone . we are married now. I remember meeting him out one night when he was 19 stone and i thought he was hot even then and started talking to him but he had a girlfriend at that time.
I dont know what im saying except i love him and fancy him at 12 stone but i know i would still fancy him at 19 stone and i would help him out to get healthy in a positive way.

dave3004

dave3004 wrote: »

Fat people disgust me.
The most important thing in your life is your health.

So you're disgusted by lack of health? To be honest I think the amount of people using "it's unhealthy" as some kind of justification for calling/implying that overweight=disgusting/ugly is laughable. I'm sure that at least 50% of those same posters are probably not disgusted by smokers, drinkers, or people who like to sit down.

dave3004 wrote: »

I think Ireland needs to be more informed and alert to obesity as a nation.

I'm in Oz now and EVERY DAY there is a tv show called "The Biggest Loser" where obese people challenge themselves to lose the weight.

The Biggest Loser is not representative of a health conscious nation for god's sake. It began in America. And we have the American, Australian and British versions over here anyway, plus we have our own shows such as Operation Transformation.

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

Also in a hot country you're showing more flesh. I'm still wandering around some day without a jacket and it's the end of November.
And these kinds of threads basically slagging off fat women just knocks their confidence even more. People need encouragement, not to have the piss ripped out of them about their appearance.

I completely agree, even here in Ireland I lose about half a stone in the Spring/Summer because I start to care what I look like. Time is also a factor, because being unemployed, when college is on a break I have more time to make proper food.

Gummy Panda

Freddie59 wrote: »

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

And these kinds of threads basically slagging off fat women just knocks their confidence even more.

Indeed. It would be interesting to see the photos of some of the people involved in said slagging on this thread.;)

Sure didn't you know, all the men on AH are either sub 10% bf pre-comp bodybuilders or Men's Health cover models. None of them at all could possibly be fat or skinny fat.

rambutman

Jerri Jordan wrote: »

I dont mind if bigger women call themselves big and beautiful. If it makes them feel good whats the problem. The world is too cruel a place as it is without calling people fat and obese.
I used to be overweight and it was a very unhappy period in my life. I had low self esteem culminating from coming from a very broken home growing I believe. When i got older I joined a gym and got my weight down to 9 and 1/2 stone. It was amazing how many guys suddenly started taking an interest in me. I went on a date with one guy I had always thought was out of my league. On the date all was going well till he said, you look amazing you know I never would have went out with you when you were fat. He was telling the truth, but sometimes there are things people just dont want to hear. I wouldnt date him again after that. It hurt me that my personality was not enough for him and I had the fear well if i ever put weight on again I know what he will be thinking.
Eventually I met a guy who had previously been 19 stone (he dieted and got down to 14 when i met him). He had no confidence cos no one had ever told him he was hot and gorgeous. which he as and is! I told him everyday how amazing he looked, he took time but eventually started believing me and his confidence soared and he lost a further 2 stone . we are married now. I remember meeting him out one night when he was 19 stone and i thought he was hot even then and started talking to him but he had a girlfriend at that time.
I dont know what im saying except i love him and fancy him at 12 stone but i know i would still fancy him at 19 stone and i would help him out to get healthy in a positive way.

I recently went out with a girl who was a fair bit overweight - well 14.5 stone and about 40% body fat percentage - so ya a fair bit overweight. She was totally beautiful (face-wise) and i was well into her but her weight was a physical turn off. We'd be getting down to business, hot and steamy and all that but once my hands got on those rolls of fat t'was hard to keep the little fella in the game.......and excess fat makes love-making harder - its makes accessing them spots trickier.......its ends up really being missionary (or a couple of variations) or nothing - you go at it from behind and there's a massive arse in the way, she's up top and there's fat bouncing all over the place. It wrecked my head in the end - i loved her but I ended up dreading the bedroom business. It made me feel very guilty the effect it had and on me and wished that it didn't but i couldn't help it physically.
Ended up doing a fair bit to try and coax her into sorting it out. Going running and the gym together, encouraging her to go to the gym on her own as well and helping her with programs - but in the end she just saw it as a chore and first chance she got wouldn't go. I tried talking to her about it "you know you're totally beautiful and all that, but do you know how hot you'd be if you could get on top of your weight".............this didn't go down well, and it ended up being a case of "how could you say that to me" - it was probably a mistake saying this but i felt the other avenues had been exhausted. The whole thing soured the relationship in a lot of ways.
I think what happens with people is they go too far down the fat-track, and see the road back as too hard, and too long and think they can't do it. They need help (me thinks) to sort it out, and i don't know if not talking to them or ignoring their weight is helping them really - at the end of the day being fat/obese is bad for your physical health, as well as mental. Ignoring their weight or telling them they are not fat when they are or whatever is just really adding to their own disillusionment. Sometimes it takes somebody telling you something you don't want to hear at the time to do something with your life. I have been overweight myself in the past by a couple of stone so know what its like trying to lose it.
On the flip side I really don't like people slagging off fat people, or joking about them behind their backs or that - and guys (who are fat themselves) taking the p1ss out of fat girls!!!!

smash

flutterflye wrote: »

What really gets to me is the use of the word curvy.

What about the word thick? A lot of Americans are using it now to describe chicks with fat asses/thighs. And for some reason these 'thick' chicks are proud of what they have. There's a difference between a fat ass and a nice ass, and fat asses are not nice!

dilbert2

MCMLXXV wrote: »

I dunno lads, there's a few big mares here I would rattle anyhow! :pac:

Oh yeah thats another thing I forgot to mention, overweight women referring to themselves as "curvy". That used to mean toned with hips etc. now look at what the word is associated with. :rolleyes:

the_syco

Fulton Crown wrote: »

Yeah ! Fat is the new black......:)

Back of the bus? :pac:

Teyla Emmagan

These threads depress me, so many posters who are so judgemental about any woman who isn't super skinny. These women are not hurting you - get over it and leave them alone. They are not put on this earth for the aesthetic purpose of pleasing you. And it's their health, so mind your own frickin business.

You would swear everyone was perfect.

Logical Fallacy

the_syco wrote: »

Back of the bus? :pac:

lol, i can imagine a load of buses driving around doing wheelies.

dilbert2

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

about any woman who isn't super skinny.

This is a pure strawman, nobody has ever said anything women having to be super skinny, or starving themselves. It is simply a debate about severely overweight and obese women consider themselves the bees knees, even acting cocky and arrogant as if they had the body to do so. I think part of the problem lies in when other people do not agree with their delusional notions of themselves been "hot". Been in-shape is bloody hard work, and if you have it, then go ahead and flaunt it. However if a person indulges in laziness and overeating, then they must reap what they sow and accept their life choices, which nobody forced them into.

These women are not hurting you - get over it and leave them alone.

Did I say they were hurting me? As for getting over it, to be honest I've nothing to get over, I just find the debate somewhat humorous.

They are not put on this earth for the aesthetic purpose of pleasing you. And it's their health, so mind your own frickin business.

Like it, or lump it, when it comes to dating most people (male and female) are fussy and try and pull the most attractive etc. member of the opposite sex. It is unfair perhaps, but nobody said life was fair. Ironically, a lot of bbws (usually the ones with a misplaced cocky arrogant mentality) are often adamant that they themselves want good looking and in shape members of the opposite sex.

You would swear everyone was perfect.

No, but most people are rational and logical and don't consider themselves to be something they are not. However, bbws seem to do so, and that's why it makes for an interesting debate.

Miss Olenska

true-or-false wrote: »

So you're disgusted by lack of health? To be honest I think the amount of people using "it's unhealthy" as some kind of justification for calling/implying that overweight=disgusting/ugly is laughable. I'm sure that at least 50% of those same posters are probably not disgusted by smokers, drinkers, or people who like to sit down.

So agree.

Let's be honest, most of the people who bleat about health and costs to the healthcare system are just using those reasons as a cover for the fact that they just don't want fat people offending their eyes.

dilbert2 wrote: »

It is simply a debate about severely overweight and obese women consider themselves the bees knees, even acting cocky and arrogant as if they had the body to do so.

What, so if they did have a hot bod, it would be perfectly acceptable for them to be cocky and arrogant?

There was me thinking cockiness and arrogance were unattractive traits in ANYONE.

Eve_Dublin

dilbert2 wrote: »

This is a pure strawman, nobody has ever said anything women having to be super skinny, or starving themselves. It is simply a debate about severely overweight and obese women consider themselves the bees knees, even acting cocky and arrogant as if they had the body to do so. I think part of the problem lies in when other people do not agree with their delusional notions of themselves been "hot". Been in-shape is bloody hard work, and if you have it, then go ahead and flaunt it. However if a person indulges in laziness and overeating, then they must reap what they sow and accept their life choices, which nobody forced them into..

I'm presuming you're not stupid and have actually read the thread. This is an opportunity for a lot of posters to take the piss out of overweight women. Debate my hole. :rolleyes:

And so you really believe these women think they're the bees knees because they're obese? I've yet to meet an overweight person who genuinely loves being that way. It's very obviously a defence mechanism in most cases and if you can't see that then get a bit more life experience and a bit more insight into the human mind and come to me.

old hippy

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

These threads depress me, so many posters who are so judgemental about any woman who isn't super skinny. These women are not hurting you - get over it and leave them alone. They are not put on this earth for the aesthetic purpose of pleasing you. And it's their health, so mind your own frickin business.

You would swear everyone was perfect.

There's a lot of ugliness on this thread and I can tell you; it's not coming from fat women.

I was out with my mate last night (she's fat, she admits - it's to do with her health problems) and she's gorgeous, funny and if I was single.... ahem.

Back to the finger wagging; shame on the slaggers.

Yahew

This thread is not Ah's finest hour.

St.Spodo

Don't see the point in slagging fat women because basically, it's cruel. However, I can't stand when people take their weaknesses and try to portray them as good traits. There's no harm in being honest with yourself and trying to improve yourself. It's better than fooling yourself.