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pickarooney

Colmustard wrote: »

I work because I have to, I could not afford not to work, I would be homeless rapidly. But I have a mate who is 45 and is in the Army, his mortgage will be paid off next year, his 2 kids are over 18 and he could retire on a sergeants pension of about 350 to 400 a week. I asked will you retire next year and he said no, you have to do something.

You have to do something,,why, I would sooner do nothing then work, I am sure I could fill my time with my own pursuits rather then structure my life around a job. If I was in his position I would retire like a shot and never work for anyone again.

Probably doesn't know what to do when left to his own devices if he's been in the army that long.

1ZRed

suicide_circus wrote: »

What about people in a vegetative state who have no sense of themselves or environment?

Well nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. This is a matter of choice and it's not a direct comparison because that is a person who has lived a life and has essentially died as a person. The fetus never had any sort of brain activity to even constitute what it is to live. Bacteria live also for example, but they are two different types of living if you get me.

If it was me in such a state, I would like to die. I think I should have law over my own life and if I state in writing that if ever I become brain dead that I would like to be brought off life support and allowed to die with dignity.

Colmustard

pickarooney wrote: »

Probably doesn't know what to do when left to his own devices if he's been in the army that long.

Not really for him it a 9 to five job most the time and his life is outside his job. He does like his job as most army people seem to do, but he moans about it to, as all us do about our jobs.

I just think if I was financially secure with an income I could live on, I would not work, I would travel, study, take up a hobby, play golf, perhaps take a part-time job if I wanted to, I would generally live the idle and free life.

I think I would have the imagination and the versatility to structure my life around my own activities rather then work. I just feel, that "something" that people feel they have to do,,does not have to be work.

I envy his position, I know what I would do if I were him.

bodice ripper

suicide_circus wrote: »

How convenient.

given that the VAST majority of the sex that I have had in my life has been with another woman, my views haven't been "convenient" as such.

I do not believe a clump of cells is a human being, and i have yet to see any argument to sway me on this

Colmustard

I enjoy going to the cinema, I go usually twice to three times a month. I was there last night watching Dredd (shyte). I don't like soft drinks, the thick sugary rotten things, so I usually sit there with nothing. I would like something, so last night I was thinking why can't I get a pint, or even bring a few cans with me. I am not talking about getting pissed, just few nice cans to sup while watching the movie.

I know they don't have a licence to serve beer and not likely to get one and it is probably illegal for anyone to drink in an unlicensed premise. But why should that be the case.

steddyeddy

bodice ripper wrote: »

suicide_circus wrote: »

How convenient.

given that the VAST majority of the sex that I have had in my life has been with another woman, my views haven't been "convenient" as such.

I do not believe a clump of cells is a human being, and i have yet to see any argument to sway me on this

Define human?

Cienciano

Colmustard wrote: »

I enjoy going to the cinema, I go usually twice to three times a month. I was there last night watching Dredd (shyte). I don't like soft drinks, the thick sugary rotten things, so I usually sit there with nothing. I would like something, so last night I was thinking why can't I get a pint, or even bring a few cans with me. I am not talking about getting pissed, just few nice cans to sup while watching the movie.

I know they don't have a licence to serve beer and not likely to get one and it is probably illegal for anyone to drink in an unlicensed premise. But why should that be the case.

Our licencing laws are poxy. Ever see a film where Americans are bowling and having a beer? Why can't we do that! I think you can in Bray, but none of the other bowling alleys.

bodice ripper

steddyeddy wrote: »

Define human?

well cheers for that Cmdr. Data.

What am I writing a philosophy thesis here?

I have no interest in fortune cookie platitude based debates. A ball of cells is not a human being in my eyes.

Tom_Cruise

pickarooney wrote: »

Probably doesn't know what to do when left to his own devices if he's been in the army that long.

The Army/Navy is the handiest job in the entire country.

Great career if its your kinda thing.

1ZRed

Watching horse racing when you have nothing on it is fookin boring!

Colmustard

Cienciano wrote: »

Our licencing laws are poxy. Ever see a film where Americans are bowling and having a beer? Why can't we do that! I think you can in Bray, but none of the other bowling alleys.

I honestly don't know, it might have something to do with kids on a licensed premise but so what if they are. As I said I am not talking about getting pissed just having a beer.

NegativeCreep

Colmustard wrote: »

I enjoy going to the cinema, I go usually twice to three times a month. I was there last night watching Dredd (shyte). I don't like soft drinks, the thick sugary rotten things, so I usually sit there with nothing. I would like something, so last night I was thinking why can't I get a pint, or even bring a few cans with me. I am not talking about getting pissed, just few nice cans to sup while watching the movie.

I know they don't have a licence to serve beer and not likely to get one and it is probably illegal for anyone to drink in an unlicensed premise. But why should that be the case.

I'm pretty sure you can get bulmers and kopparberg in vue in Liffey Valley? Before the UCI changed to the odeon there was a brief period where you could buy drink in Blanch too. There's also a bar in Movies @ Dundrum

Colmustard

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I'm pretty sure you can get bulmers and kopparberg in vue in Liffey Valley? Before the UCI changed to the odeon there was a brief period where you could buy drink in Blanch too. There's also a bar in Movies @ Dundrum

No-way, my cinema in the Odeon in coolock and I never seen beer there. If not they maybe loosing a good customer.

NegativeCreep

Colmustard wrote: »

No-way, my cinema in the Odeon in coolock and I never seen beer there. If not they maybe loosing a good customer.

No, when the uci changed to odeon, that's when they stopped selling drink. Movies @ Dundrum is probably the best one for drink.

jessiejam

Alcoholics and drug addicts should not get any social welfare payments. The money should be used to house them in rehab until they are better.

Facebook is the biggest load of sh1t to ever hit the internet.

suicide_circus

bodice ripper wrote: »

well cheers for that Cmdr. Data.

What am I writing a philosophy thesis here?

I have no interest in fortune cookie platitude based debates. A ball of cells is not a human being in my eyes.

In your eyes? Again, convenient. And sorry but philosophical debate is inevitable in this case. "fortune cookie platitude"? Haha, where did you read that, a fortune cookie?

bodice ripper wrote: »

given that the VAST majority of the sex that I have had in my life has been with another woman, my views haven't been "convenient" as such.

I do not believe a clump of cells is a human being, and i have yet to see any argument to sway me on this

What makes YOU any more than a clump of cells, given your logic Youre just a bigger clump of cells (not calling you fat) where does your worth come from? Why is it not ok for me to kill you?

I will qualify all this by saying we cannot force women to carry a pregnancy to term and so abortion facility must be made available but at least i acknowledge the horror of what i am advocating.

lil'bug

^^^^^^^^^
This thread is about OPINIONS! everyone is entitled to one weather you like it or not!

steddyeddy

lil'bug wrote: »

^^^^^^^^^
This thread is about OPINIONS! everyone is entitled to one weather you like it or not!

But thats the thing about abortion there is no right or wrong to it nor can there be. Its all opinion. What is life, whats a human life, whats an acceptable time to take a human/progenitor human life.

bodice ripper

suicide_circus wrote: »

In your eyes? Again, convenient. And sorry but philosophical debate is inevitable in this case. "fortune cookie platitude"? Haha, where did you read that, a fortune cookie?



What makes YOU any more than a clump of cells, given your logic Youre just a bigger clump of cells (not calling you fat) where does your worth come from? Why is it not ok for me to kill you?

I will qualify all this by saying we cannot force women to carry a pregnancy to term and so abortion facility must be made available but at least i acknowledge the horror of what i am advocating.

yeah, in my eyes. also, in my body. I make the rules here, and based on the info available to me I see nothing morally wrong with first trimester abortions.

I am capable of pain, fear, and I am self aware. When 2 or more of these is true of a fetus, then it would be "a horror" to terminate.


edit - obvs, if it was self aware, that would be a horror also

Rothko

jessiejam wrote: »

Facebook is the biggest load of sh1t to ever hit the internet.

I agree that Facebook is a load of ****e but I think shock sites are a lot worse.

old hippy

jessiejam wrote: »

Alcoholics and drug addicts should not get any social welfare payments. The money should be used to house them in rehab until they are better.

Facebook is the biggest load of sh1t to ever hit the internet.

Facebook reunited me with my cousin after 25 years. I'm flying to the US to see her next week. So in that respect, I gotta disagree,

As for alcoholics, what about those who work? Should they not be paid and put in rehab until they are "better"?

Wompa1

old hippy wrote: »

As for alcoholics, what about those who work? Should they not be paid and put in rehab until they are "better"?

No

old hippy

Wompa1 wrote: »

No

But it's ok to basically section unemployed alcoholics and take away their money?

Wompa1

old hippy wrote: »

But it's ok to basically section unemployed alcoholics and take away their money?

Yes

old hippy

Wompa1 wrote: »

Yes

Would you care to expand why out of work people who are ill should be dicscriminated against but not working people?

Wompa1

old hippy wrote: »

Wompa1 wrote: »

Yes

Would you care to expand why out of work people who are ill should be dicscriminated against but not working people?

Actuall I said no working people should not have rehab paid for them and also yes people on welfare shouldn't either. I as a tax later didn't force anybody to drink, I don't want to be responsible to stop them when they get addicted. Their choice, their consequences. A government should have minimal impact on peoples lives. Invoke the will of the people and thats it. I don't want them baby sitting me or anybody else

old hippy

Wompa1 wrote: »

Actuall I said no working people should not have rehab paid for them and also yes people on welfare shouldn't either. I as a tax later didn't force anybody to drink, I don't want to be responsible to stop them when they get addicted. Their choice, their consequences. A government should have minimal impact on peoples lives. Invoke the will of the people and thats it. I don't want them baby sitting me or anybody else

Addictions can derive from a number of factors in one's life - it's not always down to simply making a choice, unfortunately.

Mariadancer

Even people on benefits have to pay taxes. You can't paint everyone with the same brush. I agree that the government does give too much at times though and should spend more money on education and hospitals etc.

mackg

Wompa1 wrote: »

The unemployment rate in Galway was 8.7% in 2002. It was 8.8% in Sligo. Those numbers wouldn't include everybody that was unemployed either. People on other forms of support such as disability, single mothers etc. I do believe aren't included in those numbers. Then take into account the fact that Galway and Sligo are student towns. Do you think the majority of people in those towns were working or not working? I grew up in Galway, many there enjoy the unemployed lifestyle and many continue to.

These figures are from a report issued in 2005 that compares unemployment in Galway in 2002 with the unemployment in the state. They are the only ones I could find.

Area-Unemployment Rate
State-8.8%
Galway City and County-9.2%
County Galway-8.7%

For the purposes of calculating the Unemployment Rate, the CSO classifies the population aged 15 years and over
as either inside or outside the Labour Force. The Labour Force consists of those who are at work, unemployed or
seeking regular work for the first time. Those outside the Labour Force are those who are students, those looking
after home/family, those who are retired, those who are unable to work and those not in the Labour Force for other
unspecified reasons. The Unemployment Rate is then calculated as the sum of those unemployed and those
seeking their first job as a percentage of the labour force.

what's confusing me here is that the rate of unemployment in the state is given at 8.8% whereas I was under the impression it was ~4%, anyone clarify? It doesn't seem to be a mistake as they reference the figures in the report and compare the two.


http://www.galway.ie/en/Services/CommunityEnterpriseEconomicDevelopment/Inclusion/Reports/PovertyProfile/TheFile,924,en.pdf

upandcumming

Cienciano wrote: »

Our licencing laws are poxy. Ever see a film where Americans are bowling and having a beer? Why can't we do that! I think you can in Bray, but none of the other bowling alleys.

Stillorgan, Co. Dublin.

Wacker The Attacker

I became extremely hard after seeing a very young (13-14ish year old girl) very scantily clad.

I would never have done anything but the sheer sight of her made me think all kinds of thoughts

NegativeCreep

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

I became extremely hard after seeing a very young (13-14ish year old girl) very scantily clad.

I would never have done anything but the sheer sight of her made me think all kinds of thoughts

Awkward... :pac:

mackg

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

I became extremely hard after seeing a very young (13-14ish year old girl) very scantily clad.

I would never have done anything but the sheer sight of her made me think all kinds of thoughts

This begs the question how did you come to see a scantily clad 13 year old?

hightimes1

Disliking or liking the country you're born in is pretty unpopular.

eth0

mackg wrote: »

This begs the question how did you come to see a scantily clad 13 year old?

She was just resting in my account

bgrizzley

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

I became extremely hard after seeing a very young (13-14ish year old girl) very scantily clad.

I would never have done anything but the sheer sight of her made me think all kinds of thoughts

Hard enough to beat up chuck Norris?

Neeson

Bowling with alcohol can be done all over the country sure!

BeardyFunzo

There should be a 500 euro fine for anyone attending A&E that is over the drink drive limit. And everyone one attending A&E should be automatically tested.

griffdaddy

BeardyFunzo wrote: »

There should be a 500 euro fine for anyone attending A&E that is over the drink drive limit. And everyone one attending A&E should be automatically tested.

ok, I'm out celebrating my birthday, someone stabs me in the face, so I pay a pay €500 fine?

getzls

griffdaddy wrote: »

ok, I'm out celebrating my birthday, someone stabs me in the face, so I pay a pay €500 fine?

Only if you have a face like a bulls eye target.

lorebringer

BeardyFunzo wrote: »

There should be a 500 euro fine for anyone attending A&E that is over the drink drive limit. And everyone one attending A&E should be automatically tested.

For anyone who has had to attend A&E on a Friday/Saturday night - this is not an unpopular opinion. It's an absolute nightmare, beyond the fact that you are in A&E and could be seriously ill. The abuse the staff take is shocking, the toilets (and at time the waiting area) are nasty (even though they are cleaned regularly) due to drunken yobs p!ssing and vomiting everywhere, intimidation and aggression in the waiting area towards other patients is a disgrace... and all this before the issue of taking up unnecessary resources due to their overindulgence. What is particularly disgusting is teenagers coming in complaining that their friends drink has been spiked and when asked how much he/she had to drink they reply "a flaggen of vodka in about 2 hours" - wtf is wrong with these people? I have witnessed so many acts of douchbaggery in the waiting room and in A&E itself that I dread it when I am told to go there, to the point of contemplating not going to aviod the whole situation - all because of drunken yobbos.

I do think "everyone over the legal driving limit" is a bit harsh but having spent one too many night in A&E, for genuine reasons, there need to be penalties for drunken eejits attending for stupid reasons. Dog knows, I have had a few nights where I overdid it but I have never ended up in A&E because of it - people need to learn a bit of self control when it comes to drink.

griffdaddy wrote: »

ok, I'm out celebrating my birthday, someone stabs me in the face, so I pay a pay €500 fine?

Genuine reason to be in A&E and the likelihood is that if this did happen you wouldn't be an gobsh!te to anyone who was trying to care for you. I think the OP means people who are in for drink related problems but I do see your point.

As I said - anyone who has had to endure a night in A&E on a "drinking" night will not feel bad for some people being fined a ridiculous amount of money for their stupidity.

Sykk

Breaking Bad is a load of shíte.

Paddy Cow

Mmmm_Lemony wrote: »

People on social welfare should get cashless cards with credit on them. All transactions should be tracked and monitored.

If they are spending all the dole on bookies, smokes, drink and drugs then they should be cut off.

Also agree that the random drugs tests should be put in place.

If you want to save the economy money, why not have that sort of system implemented for politician's expense accounts? What they spend on the card could be made public at the end of each month (minus the name of the cardholder). I reckon people would soon shift from the mentality that it's everyone on the social who are wasting their hard earned tax payers money and start demanding that politicians lead by example. Of course there's no way in hell it would be allowed to happen.

Caveman1

Sykk wrote: »

Breaking Bad is a load of shíte.

Wash your mouth out :pac:

That film Drive is the biggest load of sh*te

cantdecide

Caveman1 wrote: »

That film Drive is the biggest load of sh*te

This:

Caveman1 wrote: »

Wash your mouth out :pac:

krudler

Sykk wrote: »

Breaking Bad is a load of shíte.

Just nope, its the best thing on tv at the moment.

plumbball

krudler wrote: »

Just nope, its the best thing on tv at the moment.

Agreed I would go as far to say it is the only decent drama on tele.

Jellicoe

hightimes1 wrote: »

Disliking or liking the country you're born in is pretty unpopular.

You've uncovered Bertie, Seanie and Inda's big secret and manipulation tactic. The public will let you get away with extreme corruption in this country if you bull**** about how good Ireland is. Bondholders love jupes like the Irish.

Jellicoe

Caveman1 wrote: »

That film Drive is the biggest load of sh*te

You're right, drive is complete pish

jessiejam

old hippy wrote: »

Facebook reunited me with my cousin after 25 years. I'm flying to the US to see her next week. So in that respect, I gotta disagree,

As for alcoholics, what about those who work? Should they not be paid and put in rehab until they are "better"?

im glad facebook works for you but i have seen way too many people upset about comments left on their page or left out of social situations that they felt they should have been there. People pretending that they have such perfect lives etc. Again. Just my opinion.

Alcoholics that are in reciept of a SW payment. Not those who work and can fund their lifestyle out of their own pockets, not out of mine. If they can hold down a job fair fuks to them. If they need to go to rehab then they would be entitled to illness benifit. I am ok with this once they are getting help. Sick sh1t of seeing alcoholics falling out of the off licence or pub on a monday evening spending money on a luxury, that I as a hard working citizen cannot afford!