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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Ever feel rage boiling up in you when you hear someone talking about their depression? I do, because most people just think/ tell themselves they are depressed and use it as an excuse.
    And how would you know what they feel? If that "let's laughter at people with depression" thread has thought me is that many people just suffer in silence because of the harsh stigma surrounding the topic. Comments like that just reinforce it.

    I don't see how depression could be used as an excuse for anything, and I don't think that the vast majority of people who claim to be depressed just say it for the sake of pity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    1ZRed wrote: »
    And how would you know what they feel? If that "let's laughter at people with depression" thread has thought me is that many people just suffer in silence because of the harsh stigma surrounding the topic. Comments like that just reinforce it.

    I don't see how depression could be used as an excuse for anything, and I don't think that the vast majority of people who claim to be depressed just say it for the sake of pity.

    To be fair this is the case with some people. I know someone who recommended I did what he did and went off work with "work related stress and depression" just because things were getting tough.
    On the other hand this is a sweeping statement to make and should not be applied to any particular person because you can't know that they're not genuine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    You'd be surprised by the amount of people who genuinely suffer from depression and never tell anyone or get help because of this whole attitude of "oh, just get over it" or "you're just an attention-seeker". It's always the people you don't expect either. Some people are very good at hiding precisely because of the stigma and because they don't want to be seen as "cry babies" (for want of a better word).

    That all said, I do not think that prescribed medication should be the first port of call, unless obviously you're suicidal or having psychotic episodes or are completely and utterly stuck in a rut and it's going to help you out of that. For mild depression, I think there are other ways of working through it that may not involve medication right away. I think some people (maybe moreso in the US than here) just turn to medication as a quick fix for feeling unhappy. There are ways of dealing with depression rather than immediately going straight onto medication. I saw an interesting interview with Jim Carrey who suffers from depression who said that he spent years on Prozac and then came off it, believing that spending your life on medication simply "puts off" dealing with the deep-rooted causes of the depression. Medication allows people to avoid the real problems that have them depressed. I'd be inclined to agree with him (with the exception of serious mental illnesses like schizophrenia, severe bi-polar, suicidal thoughts, etc.)

    However, if someone really thinks they need medication, then of course, they're entitled to go that route without being judged for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    krudler wrote: »
    Hes still one of the greatest one episode characters ever though. The difference between the wackiness of that episode and of the new stuff is that was genuinely funny. There was always some element of unbelievability in the older eps too but it was within reason, and most importantly it was funny, sure look at how many times Homer should have been killed through some horrible accident in the early ones.

    There isn't really any need to dissect the episodes. The bold part sums it up, The Simpsons became crap when it stopped making people laugh.
    This is simply a rubbish opinion. And coming from someone who I imagine has never felt their womb trying to gnaw its way out through their back.

    What?
    iDave wrote: »
    Live music in bars is pointless

    The point of it is that you get to hear live music. I go to bars I wouldn't normally drink in if they have live music.
    Being a binman looks like a fun job

    Knowing what wheely bins smell like I beg to differ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    I work with a woman who uses her alleged depression as an excuse to get out of doing any major work and to take loads of sick days (funnily enough, when anyone suggests a night out, she perks up and is always first there and last out) and whenever she wants out of a tricky work project she will act all bothered and tearful and make up a big story about how her boss is against her/hassling her etc and how insensitive they are. So some people do act it up and use it to their advantage, its bloody infurating when she does this and whats even worse, some people there lap up her daily poor me stories and listen to her with open ears :rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    I work with a woman who uses her alleged depression as an excuse to get out of doing any major work and to take loads of sick days (funnily enough, when anyone suggests a night out, she perks up and is always first there and last out) and whenever she wants out of a tricky work project she will act all bothered and tearful and make up a big story about how her boss is against her/hassling her etc and how insensitive they are. So some people do act it up and use it to their advantage, its bloody infurating when she does this and whats even worse, some people there lap up her daily poor me stories and listen to her with open ears :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    And she's choking down anti-D's for the craic, or what your saying has no relevance in the context of what has been said in here. There are plain bad, useless, stupid people everywhere. What you're saying isn't insightful but it is a problem. Your attitude is stigmatising to people who genuinely suffer.
    If you know a specific person like that grand but you're sounding close to smearing others. Sorry if I'm picking you up wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Don't understand how people say how beautiful or gorgeous babies are, they all look the same until they're 3..

    or when they say a newborn, like a week old is "the head off" their parents, ehh, no, no they're not, they look like a small old man dipped in formeldahyde.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Childless people should get a reward for it, not a yearly thing, but a once off "hey thanks for not burdening the state further by having sprogs" payment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭cometogether


    I think beer snobs are f ucking idiots. Fair enough if you don't like beer like Stella or Fosters, but don't look down on people who do you clown.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,926 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    I think beer snobs are f ucking idiots. Fair enough if you don't like beer like Stella or Fosters, but don't look down on people who do you clown.

    I couldn't agree more


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    I thought the Sarah Silverman Show was hilarious :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    I detest the ****ing morons who have the idea that the Irish who wear GAA jerseys abroad, particularly Australia, are somehow stupid, less informed or less adjusted than the intellectuals who wear Rip Curl or Quicksilver. It's almost like we should be ashamed of it the way some people talk! You'd wear it at home, so why wouldn't you wear it abroad? Also, I got my jersey for free and I'll wear it until it disintegrates from the sweat before I'll spend hundreds of euros on looking like Home and Away cast member just to appease the worldly Irish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    I think beer snobs are f ucking idiots. Fair enough if you don't like beer like Stella or Fosters, but don't look down on people who do you clown.

    If I ever open a pub I'm going to have a Pratzky, Dutch Gold and Bavaria tap prominently displayed just to keep those **** out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    krudler wrote: »
    Childless people should get a reward for it, not a yearly thing, but a once off "hey thanks for not burdening the state further by having sprogs" payment.

    They do.
    Its called "A lie in":D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Deeply religious and devout young people (think quoting the bible, basing all opinions on it) that are *my own age* creep the shoite out of me!


  • Registered Users Posts: 304 ✭✭polkabunny


    theTinker wrote: »
    -Repeatily cut dole and social payments for unemployment over time, eg every 1-2 months, knock 25% off. (this was more before the current recession).

    As somebody who watched their mother cry down the phone to hold onto €30 a week for child benefit until we get our forms sorted out, I couldn't disagree with you more.


    Unsure if this opinion will be popular or not, but I wish the Irish Government would cop the **** on about the position of gay couples in today's society. If I marry a man, I'm fine, everything's dandy. But God forbid I do the unthinkable and want to spend the rest of my life with a woman and raise a family with her!
    *grumble grumble*


  • Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭Halloran springs


    1ZRed wrote: »
    Deeply religious and devout young people (think quoting the bible, basing all opinions on it) that are *my own age* creep the shoite out of me!

    I wouldn't consider that an unpopular opinion, it's actually quite rational and correct.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭MJ23


    I can't stand Brendan Grace. He's been telling the same stupid jokes for the last 30 years. I don't know how he gets away with it.
    He was good in Fr. Ted though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭Pdfile


    1ZRed wrote: »
    Deeply religious and devout young people (think quoting the bible, basing all opinions on it) that are *my own age* creep the shoite out of me!


    this plus the political muppets who fail to notice that regardless of what side you take.. the public will still be treated the same...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Ever feel rage boiling up in you when you hear someone talking about their depression? I do, because most people just think/ tell themselves they are depressed and use it as an excuse.

    What an absolutely moronic statement. We spend so much time in this country trying to highlight mental health issues and I honestly thought headway was being made in terms of education and acceptance. But when I read something like that I despair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    I work with a woman who uses her alleged depression as an excuse to get out of doing any major work and to take loads of sick days (funnily enough, when anyone suggests a night out, she perks up and is always first there and last out) and whenever she wants out of a tricky work project she will act all bothered and tearful and make up a big story about how her boss is against her/hassling her etc and how insensitive they are. So some people do act it up and use it to their advantage, its bloody infurating when she does this and whats even worse, some people there lap up her daily poor me stories and listen to her with open ears :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    So are you using this woman as a barometer for how other people suffer from depression? You've surmised that this woman is a chancer and from this observation you've extrapolated that everyone suffering from depression is pulling our legs? I'm not really sure of the point of the story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    token101 wrote: »
    I detest the ****ing morons who have the idea that the Irish who wear GAA jerseys abroad, particularly Australia, are somehow stupid, less informed or less adjusted than the intellectuals who wear Rip Curl or Quicksilver. It's almost like we should be ashamed of it the way some people talk! You'd wear it at home, so why wouldn't you wear it abroad? Also, I got my jersey for free and I'll wear it until it disintegrates from the sweat before I'll spend hundreds of euros on looking like Home and Away cast member just to appease the worldly Irish.

    Do intellectuals wear Quicksilver? Bully for that you love your GAA jersey but I think you look like a spa. Truth is I hate most jerseys though. I cannot fathom why you spend outrageous money on a jersey of your favourite team and then seem wear nothing else for the year. Or those GAA hoodies from your local parish team. Terrible yokes altogether.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    krudler wrote: »
    Childless people should get a reward for it, not a yearly thing, but a once off "hey thanks for not burdening the state further by having sprogs" payment.

    Payable when? After the menopause? Castration?:D
    MJ23 wrote: »
    I can't stand Brendan Grace. He's been telling the same stupid jokes for the last 30 years. I don't know how he gets away with it.
    He was good in Fr. Ted though.

    I agree and i disagree - yes he's shít, no he wasn't any good in father ted. In fact that was probably the least funny father ted episode ever.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Alena Little Wool


    So are you using this woman as a barometer for how other people suffer from depression? You've surmised that this woman is a chancer and from this observation you've extrapolated that everyone suffering from depression is pulling our legs? I'm not really sure of the point of the story.

    This one time a colleague rang in sick to work with food poisoning. I heard later THEY WEREN'T EVEN SICK.
    So now clearly nobody in the world ever gets food poisoning or even gets sick and anyone who does it is looking for attention.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 ShaneM 90


    I don't like horses. Actually I hate horses


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    ShaneM 90 wrote: »
    I don't like horses. Actually I hate horses

    Dangerous at both ends and tricky in the middle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Shryke wrote: »
    Dangerous at both ends and tricky in the middle.

    I scrolled down too quick, missed a post and thought you were referring to the food poisioning:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭MJ23


    Its not a car "accident" if the fella was driving 100mph on a narrow twisty country road. It's dangerous driving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    I'm not a drug taker but I can understand why people take do take recreational drugs. They wanna get that high or buzz or whatever the mind altering stuff does to ya.

    I'm not a smoker but I cannot for the life of me figure out why people in this day and age would willingly smoke. I automatically respect someone a little less when I see them sparking up. Just find it idiotic in the 21st Century.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    Seems unpopular according to all the fogies at work, but I reckon Psys Gangnam style is savage. Oop Oop.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,208 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Pottler wrote: »
    Seems unpopular according to all the fogies at work, but I reckon Psys Gangnam style is savage. Oop Oop.


    Whilst Gangnam Style wouldnt be my thing. I have to admit its got a catchy beat. Not to mention that dance number is being talked about so much.

    Sure the music video on youtube has reached over 339 millions views since the 15th of July :eek: Countless number 1's throughout the world.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    Do intellectuals wear Quicksilver? Bully for that you love your GAA jersey but I think you look like a spa. Truth is I hate most jerseys though. I cannot fathom why you spend outrageous money on a jersey of your favourite team and then seem wear nothing else for the year. Or those GAA hoodies from your local parish team. Terrible yokes altogether.

    You think someone is a spa based on the fact they are wearing a jersey? Very clever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    token101 wrote: »
    You think someone is a spa based on the fact they are wearing a jersey? Very clever.

    I said you look like a spa not that you are a spa and I'm not saying it to be clever, it's just the way I feel. There is something disheartening about seeing a GAA jersey abroad. Don't ask me why. Maybe it's that whole parochialistic attire being at odds with the notion of travel broadening the mind. But tbf, like I said, I hate all jerseys.


  • Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭paikea


    Shryke wrote: »
    Dangerous at both ends and tricky in the middle.

    Dangerous business reading while scrolling... I ready tickly instead of tricky...:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭paikea


    Pottler wrote: »
    Seems unpopular according to all the fogies at work, but I reckon Psys Gangnam style is savage. Oop Oop.

    I would say it is unpopular to call it unpopular :) This is the shít!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPP5Bvtr2Dg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    My unpopular opinion is that people who make statements like "Depression is in the head; it's people feeling sorry for themselves; they shouldn't be taking meds" etc, not due to any scientific research - or any research at all really, just simply because of a "feeling" they have (due to igorance/prejudice/arrogance/lack of compassion/being thick) will hopefully get a blast of depression for a couple of months in order to shut their rotten mouths up.

    Maybe there is a handful of people who fake it - I don't know any such person though. If anything, those I know who have it would keep quiet about it: due to attitudes like the above.
    I know one girl who is a whiner and a drama queen - and it is easy to understand why people would think she was faking her depression (I thought she was exaggerating it too, tbh) but no, she had it bad (she told me the full situation and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy). Her lack of coping skills were a disaster for it all right - that's for sure - but that doesn't take away from the fact that she had it, and thankfully there was counselling, medication and a lot of decent, understanding people for her to help her get through it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Galway K9


    I think Ireland is run / controlled by 3 main CORRUPTING entities: the GAA, RTE and Fianna Fail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Galway K9 wrote: »
    I think Ireland is run / controlled by 3 main CORRUPTING entities: the GAA, RTE and Fianna Fail.

    Explain please, especially the parts about the now out of power and deeply unpopular political party and the national broadcaster.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    I think beer snobs are f ucking idiots. Fair enough if you don't like beer like Stella or Fosters, but don't look down on people who do you clown.

    I don't look down on them, I merely wish to spread the good word :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    Pottler wrote: »
    Seems unpopular according to all the fogies at work, but I reckon Psys Gangnam style is savage. Oop Oop.

    I think it's so funny! I love everything about it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    token101 wrote: »
    I detest the ****ing morons who have the idea that the Irish who wear GAA jerseys abroad, particularly Australia, are somehow stupid, less informed or less adjusted than the intellectuals who wear Rip Curl or Quicksilver. It's almost like we should be ashamed of it the way some people talk! You'd wear it at home, so why wouldn't you wear it abroad? Also, I got my jersey for free and I'll wear it until it disintegrates from the sweat before I'll spend hundreds of euros on looking like Home and Away cast member just to appease the worldly Irish.
    It looks terrible though. That's all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    I hate the people who wear jerseys full stop. Why would you pay through the nose for a rotten t-shirt?
    It screams unoriginality and needing to belong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    I like flat coke


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    I hate the people who wear jerseys full stop. Why would you pay through the nose for a rotten t-shirt?
    It screams unoriginality and needing to belong.
    Big matches when you're there at the game, fine.

    Everywhere else, and especially wearing it casually, feck no


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    1ZRed wrote: »
    Big matches when you're there at the game, fine.

    Everywhere else, and especially wearing it casually, feck no

    Agreed :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,542 ✭✭✭marcbrophy


    ^^^^^
    snobby cúnts! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,909 ✭✭✭Neeson


    1ZRed wrote: »
    Big matches when you're there at the game, fine.

    Everywhere else, and especially wearing it casually, feck no

    May as well wear it the odd time when you paid for it. I mean sure in that case you might only be wearing the jersey during the summer months. If you're from the likes of Leitrim you might wear it a handful of times during your life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭certifiedcrepe


    Could have been said before but I think spoof movies are some of the best movies ever made.
    Naked Gun trilogy, Austin Powers trilogy Airoplane and the Scary Movie's are my favourites, but I love Date Movie, Disaster Movie and Not Another Teen Movie. It just shows to not take everything too seriously!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    The recent Scary Movie etc franchises - unpopular to say they're brilliant I'd say, but I'd think the other movies are universally loved, especially the Nielsen ones.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    I said you look like a spa not that you are a spa and I'm not saying it to be clever, it's just the way I feel. There is something disheartening about seeing a GAA jersey abroad. Don't ask me why. Maybe it's that whole parochialistic attire being at odds with the notion of travel broadening the mind. But tbf, like I said, I hate all jerseys.

    Of course seeing someone in Rip Curl or any of the other brands made by 10 year olds in a sweatshop is enlightening and makes for a worthwhile travel experience does it? Right.
    I hate the people who wear jerseys full stop. Why would you pay through the nose for a rotten t-shirt?
    It screams unoriginality and needing to belong.

    You hating someone because of something they wear says more about you than them. You pay no more for a jersey than you would for any other branded product. As for this needing to belong? Well it's hardly restricted to people wearing jerseys is it? If it was the fashion industry wouldn't exist and everyone would just shop in Pennys for the cheapest possible thing. Unoriginality? Well I haven't seen anyone wear anything 'original' ever, other than Lady Gaga, who's doing it for publicity and attention.


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