Unpopular Opinions.

Cill94

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

If you're very overweight, exercise is a lot more tough.

As for the junk food thing, oh man, you don't understand eating disorders, do you?

Again, the excuses.

Yes it's a lot more tough if you're overweight, that doesn't mean that it's impossible. If you're really committed to losing the weight then you'll be willing to go through some pain and discomfort. I used to be very out of shape too and I know others who were and we would all now agree that we just made excuses about it being hard, not being naturally athletic etc. Just take up a sport. Weightlifting is great for bigger guys/gals.

Don't understand which part: that they don't have the willpower to not buy the junk food? Or that if they really get a craving they will go out to Mc Donalds or order something in? I understand that, but I also think that a large extent of that is people being psychologically weak and falling back on it being a medical condition like anyone with an addiction does. There is still responsibility involved on the part of that person.

Emeraldy Pebbles

Cill94 wrote: »

Again, the excuses.

Yes it's a lot more tough if you're overweight, that doesn't mean that it's impossible. If you're really committed to losing the weight then you'll be willing to go through some pain and discomfort. I used to be very out of shape too and I know others who were and we would all now agree that we just made excuses about it being hard, not being naturally athletic etc. Just take up a sport. Weightlifting is great for bigger guys/gals.

Don't understand which part: that they don't have the willpower to not buy the junk food? Or that if they really get a craving they will go out to Mc Donalds or order something in? I understand that, but I also think that a large extent of that is people being psychologically weak and falling back on it being a medical condition like anyone with an addiction does. There is still responsibility involved on the part of that person.

I'm not overweight and I exercise, so no excuses here. Who would I be excusing exactly? I am a former bulimic though.

The push to buy food to binge on was a compulsion for me, it didn't matter how later it was at night, if I wanted to binge, I would go out and find the food. I would later purge it. Binge-eating disorder is like this, but without the purging bit. It's a difficult mindset to extricate oneself from, it's almost obsessive-compulsive. It's hard to understand if you don't suffer from it. It's easy to understand why someone might get caught up in the binging side but pass on the purging bit. Making yourself throw up is unpleasant, as I well know, so many wouldn't be able to make themselves do it. You won't do enough exercise in a day to work off this massive excess of calories. And anorexia would be a no go for many people. I will always have bulimic tendencies, they are very hard to fight, but I'm coping well after receiving help.

Obviously there are overweight people who have no such malady but I'm convinced it's more common than people think.

And "psychologically weak"? Yeah, I think that's what they used to say about sufferers of depression. For fuuuuuck's sake.

Cill94

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

I'm not overweight and I exercise, so no excuses here. Who would I be excusing exactly? I am a former bulimic though.

The push to buy food to binge on was a compulsion for me, it didn't matter how later it was at night, if I wanted to binge, I would go out and find the food. I would later purge it. Binge-eating disorder is like this, but without the purging bit. It's a difficult mindset to extricate oneself from, it's almost obsessive-compulsive. It's hard to understand if you don't suffer from it. It's easy to understand why someone might get caught up in the binging side but pass on the purging bit. Making yourself throw up is unpleasant, as I well know, so many wouldn't be able to make themselves do it. You won't do enough exercise in a day to work off this massive excess of calories. And anorexia would be a no go for many people. I will always have bulimic tendencies, they are very hard to fight, but I'm coping well after receiving help.

Obviously there are overweight people who have no such malady but I'm convinced it's more common than people think.

And "psychologically weak"? Yeah, I think that's what they used to say about sufferers of depression. For fuuuuuck's sake.

I never said you were making excuses for yourself, but you are for other people.

Fair enough it must be very tough to just say no to food if it's a mental compulsion you have. I still believe it can be overcome, as your experience with bulimia suggests.

Anyway, my original post was referring more to the vast majority of people who are fat for reasons other than because of mental disorders. I think the kind of person you're talking about is in the minority.

Emeraldy Pebbles

Cill94 wrote: »

Anyway, my original post was referring more to the vast majority of people who are fat for reasons other than because of mental disorders. I think the kind of person you're talking about is in the minority.

Equating food addiction to other addictions is troublesome, as food is someone we need so we can't excise it from our lives.

I don't know if the numbers would be that insignificant. If someone is mindlessly stuffing themselves, something HAS to be up. Addiction is very likely too, as sugar is very addictive, but like I said, it's trickier to deal with than other addictions.

Cill94

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

If someone is mindlessly stuffing themselves, something HAS to be up.

A lot of the foods that people gorge themselves on have MSG in them. I would think that is a big culprit for food addiction.

krudler

1ZRed wrote: »

Brad Pitt's Chanel ad shows off his raw acting ability, and it also shows off what a useless actor he is.

Overrated actor/man

Pitt is a great actor, it'd be easy for him to take light romcom roles but he doesnt, The Assasination Of Jesse James? Tree Of Life? Fight Club? all excellent performances.

Tom_Cruise

john47832 wrote: »

You didnt rate him in Meet Joe Black?

I thought he played death very well

Meet Joe Black consists of watching Brad Pitt acting like a retard who escaped from an asylum, especially the part where he discovers peanut butter.

Emeraldy Pebbles

Cill94 wrote: »

A lot of the foods that people gorge themselves on have MSG in them. I would think that is a big culprit for food addiction.

I'd put sugar up there with it in the additiveness stakes.

mark renton

Tom_Cruise wrote: »

Meet Joe Black consists of watching Brad Pitt acting like a retard who escaped from an asylum, especially the part where he discovers peanut butter.

He was playing death personified - impossible to say he didnt play it perfectly

OisinS94

Black people are getting more and more sensitive.

Also I believe communism is better than democracy.

The King of Moo

OisinS94 wrote: »

Black people are getting more and more sensitive.

Also I believe communism is better than democracy.

Do you go around pinching black people and seeing how much it hurts, comparing your notes year by year?

mark renton

The King of Moo wrote: »

Do you go around pinching black people and seeing how much it hurts, comparing your notes year by year?

Either that or he has just noticed the sales increase in mousturizing products amongst African Americans

Da Shins Kelly

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

And I would take from the names you mentioned, but Gaye for instance contributed to his output, the most recognised song he himself formalised was Sexual Healing.

This is probably my naked nostalgia but these acts were the real thing, they were part of the business. It's quite difficult to describe what is currently happening in the industry, as far as I'm concerned they've sailed it down the river with ugly personalities and attitude. To bring it back to Rihanna, she is a a bad tempered broad with limited talent, she doesn't deserve it....It used to mean something to have a number one.

My mistake on Gaye.

Totally agree about Rihanna. I find her astronomical success baffling. Like you say, a horrible personality and very limited talent. But then this seems to be the trend across the board in mainstream music, for the most part. While there is great music being made today and loads of great artists out there, the most successful popstars are truly awful people, as far as I can see. When you consider the biggest personalities in music of the past - Morrissey, Robert Smith, Kurt Cobain, Janis Joplin, Billie Holiday and so on, these are artists that people can actually identify with. When you compare them to the likes of Rihanna or Katy Perry or Chris Brown and the likes, it's no wonder that kids are so f*cked up these days. They have no one to relate to. Not in the mainstream anyway.

BroBeans353

I'm kind of glad Kurt Cobain died because if that never happened Dave Grohl probably would have never made the Foo Fighters and instead would have continued being the drummer of an extremely average rock band (Bar two or three good songs)

Emeraldy Pebbles

BroBeans353 wrote: »

I'm kind of glad Kurt Cobain died because if that never happened Dave Grohl probably would have never made the Foo Fighters and instead would have continued being the drummer of an extremely average rock band (Bar two or three good songs)

If Nirvana are average, that must make the Foo Fighters the absolute dregs.

Nirvana > Foo Fighters

And it's not even close.

Magill

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

If Nirvana are average, that must make the Foo Fighters the absolute dregs.

Nirvana > Foo Fighters

And it's not even close.

bullsh!t... Nirvana are one of the most overrated bands ever imo. Nothing more than above average.

Pearljam >>>>> Nirvana.

Da Shins Kelly

Couldn't call myself a huge fan of either band, but Nirvana are definitely better, and the fact that Dave Grohl now gets to be the frontman of his own band isn't really a good reason to be glad that someone is dead.

Napper Hawkins

BroBeans353 wrote: »

I'm kind of glad Kurt Cobain died because if that never happened Dave Grohl probably would have never made the Foo Fighters and instead would have continued being the drummer of an extremely average rock band (Bar two or three good songs)

I reckon Foo Fighters would've happened regardless.

If Kurt hadn't checked out in such an OTT fashion I'm pretty sure he would've just disbanded Nirvana anyway and gone and played guitar with Hole or someone else. Leaving Dave to do his own thing.

DEFTLEFTHAND

BroBeans353 wrote: »

I'm kind of glad Kurt Cobain died because if that never happened Dave Grohl probably would have never made the Foo Fighters and instead would have continued being the drummer of an extremely average rock band (Bar two or three good songs)

Very unfair assessment. They were a band with only 3 studio albums (Incesticide being a B side album) but yet they made a long lasting impression on the music scene. They reinvigorated the industry at the time in America and were the bridge between the dire 80s and 90s.

Emeraldy Pebbles

Magill wrote: »

bullsh!t... Nirvana are one of the most overrated bands ever imo. Nothing more than above average.

Pearljam >>>>> Nirvana.

Well, it's all subjective so, no, it's not bullshít. I'm not a huge fan of Nirvana but I don't think they were overrated.

Real Life

Magill wrote: »

bullsh!t... Nirvana are one of the most overrated bands ever imo. Nothing more than above average.

Pearljam >>>>> Nirvana.

but he never said nirvana were better than pearl jam, just better than foo fighters.

jessiejam

john47832 wrote: »

If that was an indirect question then the answer is yes, I do hold this opinion, unpopular as it is...

And might I ask how in the name of fuk do you have any idea how painful childbirth is?

Magill

Real Life wrote: »

but he never said nirvana were better than pearl jam, just better than foo fighters.

I know, i was just being a tit.

mark renton

Nirvana are crap
Foo Fighters are crap
Pearl Jam are crap

mark renton

jessiejam wrote: »

And might I ask how in the name of fuk do you have any idea how painful childbirth is?

Sorry missus, that was about 10 pages back and I'm afraid you might be a little too uptight for this conversation so I must abstain...

flutterflye

john47832 wrote: »

Nirvana are crap
Foo Fighters are crap
Pearl Jam are crap

No.

mark renton

flutterflye wrote: »

No.

Tis true...

1D rule

flutterflye

john47832 wrote: »

Tis true...

1D rule

1 Direction is it?!
Yeah, Niall Horahan is so dreamy.

mikemac1

Setting a rule that employees must have a doctors cert for a sick day will not drive down absenteeism, it will drive it up

People spent 50 euro or so with the doctor and for that kind of money they will take off another day


Some rules have to be set by a business but a cert for one day does not work

Pherekydes

jessiejam wrote: »

And might I ask how in the name of fuk do you have any idea how painful childbirth is?

He doesn't. He's just posting an unpopular and idiotic opinion. He's almost certainly never even attended a live birth, barring his own.

NegativeCreep

In fairness, 1D aren't awful. I like that song 'you don't know you're beautiful.' such a tune :L

mark renton

Pherekydes wrote: »

He doesn't. He's just posting an unpopular and idiotic opinion. He's almost certainly never even attended a live birth, barring his own.

:rolleyes:

idiotic is subjective Pher - Did you go to mass this morning?

Pherekydes

john47832 wrote: »

:rolleyes:

idiotic is subjective Pher - Did you go to mass this morning?

And why would I go to mass, John?

And a man having an opinion about the pain of childbirth is, in my opinion, idiotic.

mark renton

Pherekydes wrote: »

And why would I go to mass, John?

I'm thinking you might need to enrich on your spiritual enlightenment, by doing so you may even notice that God gave man a sense of humour

Pherekydes wrote: »

And a man having an opinion about the pain of childbirth is, in my opinion, idiotic.

Everything is idiotic my friend... A broad form of intelligence is required to see this

jessiejam

john47832 wrote: »

I'm thinking you might need to enrich on your spiritual enlightenment, by doing so you may even notice that God gave man a sense of humour



Everything is idiotic my friend... A broad form of intelligence is required to see this

Your original post is idiotic. Its far from a broad form of intelligence you have posting things that you have no idea about, that is unless you remember your own birth.

cometogether

john47832 wrote: »

Nirvana are crap
Foo Fighters are crap
Pearl Jam are crap

Correct

cometogether

john47832 wrote: »

Tis true...

1D rule

The entire planet would be better off with One Direction's complete and utter demise

Pherekydes

john47832 wrote: »

I'm thinking you might need to enrich on your spiritual enlightenment, by doing so you may even notice that God gave man a sense of humour

Haven't you read the bible? God is a cruel, xenophobic misogynist, with absolutely zero sense of humour.

His slaughter of the innocents is particulary illustrative.

mark renton

Pherekydes wrote: »

Haven't you read the bible? God is a cruel, xenophobic misogynist, with absolutely zero sense of humour.

I didnt say he had one himself..

Pherekydes wrote: »

His slaughter of the innocents is particulary illustrative.

The good fellows on the Christianity forum would be only too helpful to explain this...

[-0-]

I think raising kids to believe that 9/11 was an inside job by the US government, or that the moon landing was faked, is a form of child abuse.

I also think women & men should have to undergo an evaluation before allowed to have kids. The evaluation would primarily be psychological. If they fail the child should be terminated.

Real Life

Pherekydes wrote: »

Haven't you read the bible? God is a cruel, xenophobic misogynist, with absolutely zero sense of humour.

His slaughter of the innocents is particulary illustrative.

and to top it all off hes a fictional character

PopePalpatine

john47832 wrote: »

Tis true...

1D rule

I find it ironic that "1D" is short for both One Direction and 1-Dimensional - the latter perfectly sums up their "music".

billybudd

NegativeCreep wrote: »

Important facts like Sex = Baby? It's not rocket science like.
I know it's a way of life for them but if I was in their position there's no way I'd make it a way of life for someone else. To have a child in such complete and utter poverty is selfish.

Educated people have more of a chance at rational thought, your looking at this through western eyes and all the benefits that this entails, also religious beliefs have a huge factor in unprotected sex leading to child birth and also HIV and other such things and when your relying on instincts and not education then you are entering murky waters.

And also i doubt as hard as you may try that you can imagine what its like to be in their position.

1ZRed

john47832 wrote: »

Tis true...

1D rule

One direction.


The reason we should have killed Justin Bieber before he laid eggs

Da Shins Kelly

[-0-] wrote: »

I think raising kids to believe that 9/11 was an inside job by the US government, or that the moon landing was faked, is a form of child abuse.

It's doing them a disservice maybe by giving them false information, but child abuse? That seems a bit much. In fairness, all it takes is for the kids to grow up and read a book or watch a documentary or something and see that the moon landing wasn't faked. I would consider it more along the lines of child abuse to raise a child to be racist or Anti-Semitic or some such, like those children on the Louis Theroux documentary about Neo-Nazis - a woman was raising her children as white supremacists and wanted to keep them out of school for as long as possible so she could continue teaching them that apartheid was instigated by black people, and other such "facts". That, to me, is more like child abuse. Racist views are much harder to shake if they've been built into you from day one, and they're also far more dangerous. How is believing the moon landing was faked going to harm anyone? All it does is make the person who believes it look like an idiot.

PC CDROM

krudler wrote: »

Pitt is a great actor, it'd be easy for him to take light romcom roles but he doesnt, The Assasination Of Jesse James? Tree Of Life? Fight Club? all excellent performances.

He was great in 12 Monkeys as well

EoghanIRL

X factor is the biggest amount of injurious nonsense I've ever seen, even worse than bieber

Neeson

EoghanIRL wrote: »

X factor is the biggest amount of injurious nonsense I've ever seen, even worse than bieber

Probably not an unpopular one.

Wacker The Attacker

[-0-] wrote: »

I think raising kids to believe that 9/11 was an inside job by the US government, or that the moon landing was faked, is a form of child abuse.

I also think women & men should have to undergo an evaluation before allowed to have kids. The evaluation would primarily be psychological. If they fail the child should be terminated.

Entering your kids into a beauty pageant is worse.

Who gets to decide who has sex and who doesnt?

sbsquarepants

1ZRed wrote: »

One direction.


The reason we should have killed Justin Bieber before he laid eggs

Fúck you 1ZRED, i've just spit water all over my monitor right in front of my boss from laughing at this!

[-0-] wrote: »

I think raising kids to believe that 9/11 was an inside job by the US government, or that the moon landing was faked, is a form of child abuse..

Bringing them up to believe that an invisible carpenter zombie monitors not only their deeds but even their thoughts and will send them to a furnace for all eternity for doing any one of a quite large list of arbitrary, and often times, quite natural and healthy things, is far worse in my opinion!

[-0-] wrote: »

I also think women & men should have to undergo an evaluation before allowed to have kids. The evaluation would primarily be psychological. If they fail the child should be terminated.

Presumably so that people who think things like this are filtered out of the gene pool!