hardy Bucks - Season 2 - RTE 2 Monday nights

laoch na mona

we need Lexus

mikom

laoch na mona wrote: »

we need Lexus

They put the fetter back on him I think.

Fishooks12

Frank Funk wrote: »

There's a massive element of the emperor having no clothes here. These guys have being doing this stick for four years and it's lazier they're getting.

Maybe there's a narcissism to hearing lads in your own situation and accent being glamourised. The same way the biggest fans of Ross O'Carroll Kelly drivel are D4 rugby twats.

The thing that pisses me off the most is when the "writing" is praised, when the characters / situations are nicked from Trailer Park Boys and phrases like "if there was work in the bed he'd sleep on the floor"and "she was up and down like a fiddler's elbow" are stock country phrases.

Wow you're really cynical

Ross O Carroll Kelly is brilliant btw and people around the country like it, not just the section of society it parodies

Also the phrases mentioned have never been in Hardy Bucks so don't know where you got that from

It's a bit sad that your so angry over a bunch of guys with a bit of initiative making people laugh

If you don't like it don't watch it or make some sort of decent critique rather than lazy claims of plagiarism. After all what show hasn't borrowed from another, especially in comedy.

mikom

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Wow you're really cynical

Ross O Carroll Kelly is brilliant btw and people around the country like it, not just the section of society it parodies

Also the phrases mentioned have never been in Hardy Bucks so don't know where you got that from

It's a bit sad that your so angry over a bunch of guys with a bit of initiative making people laugh

If you don't like it don't watch it or make some sort of decent critique rather than lazy claims of plagiarism. After all what show hasn't borrowed from another, especially in comedy.

For the record "work in the bed he'd sleep on the floor" was in Hardy bucks for sure.
They are still highly entertaining imo.

Fishooks12

mikom wrote: »

For the record "work in the bed he'd sleep on the floor" was in Hardy bucks for sure.
They are still highly entertaining imo.

Aye my mistake on that point but it's still not a fault of the show considering the section of society they're portraying is a small rural town

Frank Funk

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Also the phrases mentioned have never been in Hardy Bucks so don't know where you got that from

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg9jWKiMEOE

14 seconds in. And they're used the "work in the bed" one at least twice.

My critique is perfectly valid. There's very little jokes in the thing, just cosy recognition. It's catchphrase comedy in disguise.

JohnnyBig

spider guardian wrote: »

Tut tut. Surely the Irish part should read "Baile an Chaisleáin"? Ye're shlackin lads

either or really, often irish translations aren't exactly in the same order, ..:cool:

coniosumadre

Frank Funk wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg9jWKiMEOE

14 seconds in. And they're used the "work in the bed" one at least twice.

My critique is perfectly valid. There's very little jokes in the thing, just cosy recognition. It's catchphrase comedy in disguise.

But thats not even from one of the episodes dude...thats just an outtake thing there using for promotion!!!!

iDrum

Why did they reverse the shot with Eddie in the first scene? You can see the print on his T-shirt is backwards.

Liam Byrne

Watched a few mins of this last week - chronically unfunny.

theholyghost

I thought the web episodes were really great. I never really watched series one as it seemed to be a re-working of the web stuff and I wasn't bothered with the recylced jokes and reordered plots.

Series Two, I thought the first two episodes were really good and true to the web episodes. Very funny. Last night's third episode was terrible though, hardly a laugh in there. I think the show is much funnier when it is about nothing and doesn't reveal anything. No back stories, family lives etc. Last night ruined the Viper by making him vulnerable. Really destroys his "villian" character. The Viper should only pop up in the show to be a pr*ck.

I'm afraid the reputation of this show will get killed by weak episodes.

Fr Tod Umptious

theholyghost wrote: »

I thought the web episodes were really great. I never really watched series one as it seemed to be a re-working of the web stuff and I wasn't bothered with the recylced jokes and reordered plots.

Series Two, I thought the first two episodes were really good and true to the web episodes. Very funny. Last night's third episode was terrible though, hardly a laugh in there. I think the show is much funnier when it is about nothing and doesn't reveal anything. No back stories, family lives etc. Last night ruined the Viper by making him vulnerable. Really destroys his "villian" character. The Viper should only pop up in the show to be a pr*ck.

I'm afraid the reputation of this show will get killed by weak episodes.

Totally agree with the above.

I though last night was average at best, but in reality it was poor.

It reminded me too much of the 'King of the Town' episode last year which was terribly also.
Again I think they were trying to hard to develop a plot and a situation that was not very funny in the end.
The recoding studio stuff was crap, with the exception of Viper trying to chat up 'Sthacey' at the beginning.

They need to focus on the simple things, the normal interactions between Buzz, Eddie and the other characters.

squonk

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Totally agree with the above.

I though last night was average at best, but in reality it was poor.

It reminded me too much of the 'King of the Town' episode last year which was terribly also.
Again I think they were trying to hard to develop a plot and a situation that was not very funny in the end.
The recoding studio stuff was crap, with the exception of Viper trying to chat up 'Sthacey' at the beginning.

They need to focus on the simple things, the normal interactions between Buzz, Eddie and the other characters.

I agree with what's been said so far. What made the Viper great was that he was always a pr1ck and ended up getting one over on Eddie & the boys all too often. I was very surprised that he got shown up like that last night. In fairness though, the Viper sells drugs so I don't know why he'd be bothered his arse doing a film! It just made no sense!

There were a few great lines though, 'You can't beat the few warm up pints before soccer', chatting up the assistant at the recording studio and the Viper's general pissing about in there and what the Viper said about Noirin & yer man, something like 'the guy who's having sex with eddie's ex' or something like that.

Strange episode though. I hope they get things back on track. They need to remember that the whole lot of them (the viper and Eddie & the boys) are useless, lazy feckers who spend the day being busy doing **** all! I can say myself that I don't give a toss about back stories or plots. Once they realise that, they'll be grand!

Actually isn't that always what ruined great british comedies when they were made into films. Someone somewhere decided that there now needed to be a plot and back stories and revelations about the characters and it almost always fell on it's arse. Mr. Bean is a case in point. I'd have been far happier with a film made up of 3 or 4 longer sketches with more money going into the production than usual. Sacha Baron-Coen managed it best really where he struck a happy balance. I think he did just enough to keep the studio people from the door and not enough to kill the character. I do like the Ali G movie and the Borat movie because of that.

coniosumadre

pretty much agree with the first poster above...Poor episode.didnt work...Anyone else notice the Viper returning to his normal english accent when hhe was talkng to himself alone in the mirror at the party???/First two were still good though..heres hoping it gets back on track again next week for the last 3.

twincamman

really unfunny

Utopia Parkway

The first two episodes were a return to form but last night's was definitely the weakest of the three. Never seems to work fully when they try and shoehorn in too much plot into an episode like all the viper/black mamba stuff. It verged far too close to being zany for the sake of it at the end.

Funniest part of the episode was probably just Buzz and French Toast sitting on the wall outside the cottage. The simple stuff always works better with them.

briany

I thought the episode was quite funny indeed. It wasn't as funny as the previous two, that is true but there was still a lot to laugh about.

The whole exchange between Buzz/French Toast and Eddie outside the cottage at the beginning was hilarious. The idea of a glitzy LA pool party containing the cream of Castletown society was well done. The idea of them all showing up, done up, to this dingy looking poolside was funny with even one of the partygoers commenting on it as typical west of Ireland. The lads going for a game of football and forgetting the ball was a funny aside.

I didn't like the Viper's messing around in the studio, though. It was hard to see where that was going but I don't agree that it undermines him to make him look vulnerable. I thought the point of the character was that he is a completely silly, unintimidating 'villain' and the idea that Eddie and the boys take him in any way seriously is absolutely ridiculous. It's like overgrown kids playing a game really and actually they're all friends. He looks like a kid who was bullied so much in secondary school that he snapped and tried to reinvent himself as a hard man but had based on his image/style on a comically narcissistic delusion so to point this out occasionally does no harm.

Fr Tod Umptious

briany wrote: »

I thought the episode was quite funny indeed. It wasn't as funny as the previous two, that is true but there was still a lot to laugh about.

The whole exchange between Buzz/French Toast and Eddie outside the cottage at the beginning was hilarious. The idea of a glitzy LA pool party containing the cream of Castletown society was well done. The idea of them all showing up, done up, to this dingy looking poolside was funny with even one of the partygoers commenting on it as typical west of Ireland. The lads going for a game of football and forgetting the ball was a funny aside.

I didn't like the Viper's messing around in the studio, though. It was hard to see where that was going but I don't agree that it undermines him to make him look vulnerable. I thought the point of the character was that he is a completely silly, unintimidating 'villain' and the idea that Eddie and the boys take him in any way seriously is absolutely ridiculous. It's like overgrown kids playing a game really and actually they're all friends. He looks like a kid who was bullied so much in secondary school that he snapped and tried to reinvent himself as a hard man but had based on his image/style on a comically narcissistic delusion so to point this out occasionally does no harm.

But that's the whole thing.
The interaction between Buzz, Eddie, French toast is the best part of it. Not some over elaborate plot involving the Viper, a recording studio and a film.

Now of course it is hard to carry 25min of a show with the three lads talking but they have shown in the previous two episodes that the overall plot does not have to be complex.
Last week was a prefect example, the only plot was that they turned the house into a '**** site' and the rest of the show was built around it.

I do agree that the Viper is a very vulnerable character, all he is is a mammy's boy that turns into a hard man once he steps outside the door to head up town or when there is a audience to play too.

coniosumadre

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

But that's the whole thing.
The interaction between Buzz, Eddie, French toast is the best part of it. Not some over elaborate plot involving the Viper, a recording studio and a film.

Now of course it is hard to carry 25min of a show with the three lads talking but they have shown in the previous two episodes that the overall plot does not have to be complex.
Last week was a prefect example, the only plot was that they turned the house into a '**** site' and the rest of the show was built around it.

I do agree that the Viper is a very vulnerable character, all he is is a mammy's boy that turns into a hard man once he steps outside the door to head up town or when there is a audience to play too.

Its a good point about the show working best when their doing nothing,and just the improv or conversations between Buzz Eddie and the Boo.However RTE are never going to let them fill 3 hours of just this.There has to be plotlines brought in somewhere,also I dont think six episodes like episode 1 would work over all.....3 episodes left,one dodgy episode doesnt really ruin the whole season.....maybe by the looks of it episode 1 may be the strongest of them all,and it may of been a bad idea to start with it as expectations were left too high after it.

Giruilla

Having a plotline is ruining the show. Left to its own its very funny.

mikom

Latest episode dipped alright.
What should have been a cavalcade of fun with all the characters together in one spot (red carpet event) just became a watery diluted mess.
Everyone got a little spake but nothing much was said.

Gervais and crew carried off the mass character situation well in the UK office Christmas party special, so it can be done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Iq64CjBDIk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJiaiL_WSKc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIXKvQQQSLo

Fitzo

As has been stated the Wed episodes were way better, but this series it's getting closer to it.

Made me lol a few times!

Definitely depends on where you're from in the country though, no question.

Fr Tod Umptious

Much better episode last night.

The Viper was brilliant, I never really though him as funny as the others but he really improved this week.

Viper asking Sim Card to test the drugs for him was class.

squonk

Yeah the Viper was the star this week! I loved the part where the boys from 'Shligo' show up and he's doing the 'hard man' walk down the ravine and slips . It's great to see that the episode last week had some payoff this week.

Buzz & Eddie going in for the loan was very funny!!!

castletownman

I thought it was a brilliant scene when Eddie and Buzz fell out again. "Ya fat bitch" and Buzz doing press-ups to show how hard he is.

Great quote from Simcard when talking about the new drugs to Viper 2 as well: "I dreamt I was shopping with Paul Galvin for weeks".

jackal

Very funny episode last night, the fortune teller, the bank, Vipers shenanigans with the corner boys and his double, and the woof woof scene with french toast and sim card were class. p.s. I would be closer to ross o carroll kelly than castletown in terms of myself, but HB is fecking brilliant.

ricero

salmon deserves a spin off hes brilliant

WindmillWarrior

Only started watching Hardy Bucks this week. I always thought it was gonna be some unfunny country crap, but I have to say I love it. Simple things like the eastern european doll calling the little kid trying to rob Salmons phone a "small bastard" had me laughing. "Black belt in cluedo". All the viper stuff. There seems to be a lot of characters in it, but they nearly all had at least 1 funny line! It was great!
Lookin forward to watching all the web shtuff

hansbo

Anyone know where you can get the shky boy song? Been looking for a while and cant find it anywhere

tuxy

This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70upnR8ce3o

it starts at 2:46

weemcd

I'm telllin Ye what bai's, the Boo is criminally underused on RTE, anyone got an idea why?

I'm enjoying series 2 alot, but it should be Eddie, Buzz, Toashty and the Boo as main characters with the viper fúcking them off with other characters thrown in for flavour

JONJO THE MISER

Jaysus what a great show, i was down my local town where i grew up today and you get see a lot of people who would fit into hardy bucks.

Immaculate Pasta

It's been a good series so far I've enjoyed it :cool:

That Russian bird Svetlana :eek:. Phenomenal.

tuxy

It does not hold up to the standard of the web series though, does it?

coniosumadre

tuxy wrote: »

It does not hold up to the standard of the web series though, does it?

Matter of opinion i guess,For me episode 1 and 4 have been as good if not better than any of the web episoodes.Not even taking into account the fact that the web episodes were 10 minutes..Anyways for me the first 3 web episodes were the only real classic classic hardybucks,But im not complaining,It woud be impossible for them to maintain 100 percent always..theres only been one slightly dodgy episode out of four so far....not bad at all..

briany

That was the best episode of the series so far in my opinion. Plenty of Eddie's gang and Viper's gang with both just messing about and getting into trouble. Exactly as it should be.

The encounter between Eddie and the Viper in the chipper at the end was hysterical as was the whole rave up at the farm.

Shane10

was class last night.

1. when buzz was doing his driving test and the inspector tells him hes a terrible driver and buzz goes.."what the **** are ya talking about" (buzz is class).

2. when the viper is in the swimming pool and tells yer man to shwim off ta fuc. see those dolphins, make them you target..:D

yupyup7up

briany wrote: »

That was the best episode of the series so far in my opinion. Plenty of Eddie's gang and Viper's gang with both just messing about and getting into trouble. Exactly as it should be.

The encounter between Eddie and the Viper in the chipper at the end was hysterical as was the whole rave up at the farm.

nail on the head! I nearly fell off the bed watching it!

as well as

The Viper screeching at him before Eddie wakes up. So funny!

squonk

Big thumbs up from me for this episode! I'm really starting to like Noirin and her bitchy friend who keeps taunting Eddie! The Driving Test was absolute class! I thought this episode was well up there with any of the web eps. Best episode so far!

AnonoBoy

weemcd wrote: »

I'm telllin Ye what bai's, the Boo is criminally underused on RTE, anyone got an idea why?

Might be because he's the worst actor of the lot of them. He tries but his line delivery is awful and he doesn't even have the deadpan hilarity of Salmon to make up for it.

ronnie3585

Another great episode. Really enjoying this season.

The only enrolling I'll be doing, is into the bed.

squonk

ronnie3585 wrote: »

Another great episode. Really enjoying this season.

The only enrolling I'll be doing, is into the bed.

Yeah, and the looks to the camera from the girl at the community college were priceless!! That episode was a gem! Eddie has as much of a chance of getting to the US as I have of winning the lotto!

weemcd

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Might be because he's the worst actor of the lot of them. He tries but his line delivery is awful and he doesn't even have the deadpan hilarity of Salmon to make up for it.

The aul boo was probably my favourite on the web, I think buzz steals every scene he's involved in now though

briany

You may be right be right about Buzz except when the Viper is involved because the Viper can steal just about every scene he's in through force of personality if nothing else. The Viper's farcical obnoxiousness tends to beat out Buzz's farcical ignorance IMO :P.

the_shark

ricero wrote: »

salmon deserves a spin off hes brilliant

He's some man for one man,knew him in college. dont know what way he's coming across to people but he's not 'acting', hes just as awkward in real life. its as if theyve taken bits of his life and wrote it into the show! good hearted lad all the same..

briany

the_shark wrote: »

He's some man for one man,knew him in college. dont know what way he's coming across to people but he's not 'acting', hes just as awkward in real life. its as if theyve taken bits of his life and wrote it into the show! good hearted lad all the same..

I read an interview with Chris Torduff, I think it was, who plays the Viper and also co writes the show and he said that most of the people on Hardy Bucks had limited, if any, serious acting experience and are more or less playing themselves so it's no surprise that Salmon is really like that. It would be some act otherwise. :P

I think we all know or have known someone like Salmon but I like it. It's something a little bit different.

AstridBean

My favourite Salmon moment has to be from the web series when he takes the mushies and is just like "I've takin' some mushies... fúckin' hell". Just something about his delivery is hilarious.

bm1993

Very good again tonight. Thought Big Mick stole the show!!!

briany

Very good episode again tonight. The scenes at the post-wedding do were very funny as was Viper's subplot. They don't need to undermine the Viper's character so much though because we all know that he is just a narcissistic dreamer posing comically as a hard man drug dealer and if it's pointed out too much then the character becomes less funny. TPB used a similar but quite a bit less heavy handed approach to it's equivalent of Viper, Cyrus, and it was all the funnier for it.

squonk

Mick was great in this episode. I liked Boo as well. I'm looking forward to the Christmas episode now. Its a stupid time to have it on though, 12:30AM Christmas day!

I keep looking for the 'gotcha' in the Salmon storyline! I really thought svetlana was going to head off with Alloysius but it's strange. Not the strongest episode I thought but as an episode that tied everything together it was great. The viper going around in his kaks was great too! He's a great character!