US to send marines to Australia

Paddy Samurai

Australia has agreed to host a full US Marine task force in the coming years, Prime Minister Julia Gillard has announced at a news conference with US President Barack Obama in Canberra.
She said about 250 US Marines would arrive next year, eventually being built up to 2,500 personnel.
The deployment is being seen as a move to counter China's growing influence.

We should follow the US lead.This could be a great opportunity for Ireland.With immediate effect we increase our defence forces to 400,000 (our unemployed)and post them all over the world,to counter the chinese.:D
I reckon the Americans would pay us to do this,as they give billions in support to their allies.

Join the army and see the world.





http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-15739995

NothingMan

Sorry. Someone on here yesterday called for the army to be disbanded and well, he did say it first and all.

RichieC

lol.. countering chinas influence... China has become what they are while the yanks pumped trillions and trillions into their military might and yet here we are... what is near broke america going to do now?

tfitzgerald

We could sell them cork and let them put the marines in down there

biko

They're worried about Tojo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD9JjwWhAoY

Mr Trade In

Seems though we owe so much money out at the moment I can see any such Irish barracks being named Company HS, HS being short for you guessed it Human Shield.

Corvo

Against the Chinese says you?!!!

Are you mad! They are going to take over the world. I say we get our defence forces (unemployed) to join the Chinese. Lets ally ourselves with our future rulers! Better that than the alternative!

SeaFields

Chicken balls and a 3 in 1 for the win

dr.bollocko

Why do they deserve that?
I mean I thought Afghanistan and Iraq was bad enough.

Did they steal bread? Or was it just the whole shooting civilians thing?

Fratton Fred

Australia has oil now?

ejmaztec

NothingMan wrote: »

Sorry. Someone on here yesterday called for the army to be disbanded and well, he did say it first and all.

The army disbanded him first, and it wasn't a pretty sight.:(

Batsy

RichieC wrote: »

lol.. countering chinas influence... China has become what they are while the yanks pumped trillions and trillions into their military might and yet here we are... what is near broke america going to do now?

The United States spends only 4.7% of its GDP on defence.

That's hardly going to make it broke.

arybvtcw0eolkf

We deployed to Australia to acclimatize before moving into the jungles of East Timor.. So, its been done.

KeithAFC

The Yankee Army seem to be trying to forge a better relationship with Australia.

ejmaztec

Batsy wrote: »

The United States spends only 4.7% of its GDP on defence.

That's hardly going to make it broke.

The Chinese are bank-rolling the American war-machine.

Mickeroo

If china moved troops into south america to counter the US influence I dare say it would almost be seen as an act of war

marcsignal

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Australia has oil now?

+1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA9C4i5bk24

OneArt

Paddy Samurai wrote: »

Join the army and see the world.

Whilst having no freedom and doing what you're told!

Yay! School all over again!

ejmaztec

KeithAFC wrote: »

The Yankee Army seem to be trying to forge a better relationship with Australia.

They've always had good relations with the Americans, and have got the graves of Australian Vietnam war-dead to prove it.

df1985

why exactly are the US doing this?

punk77

2500 marines??? To counter growing Chinese influence??? Jeez,the Chinese might as well give up now! Methinks it's all just a roos.

Voodoomelon

The Chinese army is the largest permanent army in the world, with over 2,200,000 members, nearly a 1,000,000 in reserve and over 350,000,000 males of military age.

These 250 marines better be fast reloaders!

Paddy Samurai

punk77 wrote: »

2500 marines??? To counter growing Chinese influence??? Jeez,the Chinese might as well give up now! Methinks it's all just a roos.

Everyone knows 1 Marine = 1000 Chinese

Cos John Wayne Said

RichieC

Batsy wrote: »

The United States spends only 4.7% of its GDP on defence.

That's hardly going to make it broke.

Well I never implied that. anyways 4.1% of the GDP is what is spent as discretionary spending. the actual spending is far higher..

Saila

Karlie Purple Linesman wrote: »

We deployed to Australia to acclimatize before moving into the jungles of East Timor.. So, its been done.

RIP Mak

they did say if you ever talked you would be killed afterall

rob180

df1985 wrote: »

why exactly are the US doing this?

Just to counter the treat from the Chinese. The Chinese has rapidly been moderniziing her arm forces( especially her navy, couple of newly built aircraft carrier to be in service in the next couple of years). There's also territorial claims in the South China Sea, mainly the Spratly Island. So basically the Yanks just covering their arses just in case China decide to have ideas in this region. Simple;)

Gummy Panda

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Australia has oil now?

Yes, western Australia does

SamHarris

Mickeroo wrote: »

If china moved troops into south america to counter the US influence I dare say it would almost be seen as an act of war

Doubt it. I doubt China is too extatic about it.

Chuck Stone

df1985 wrote: »

why exactly are the US doing this?

Because that's what they do.

Full spectrum dominance and all that malarkey.

US military doctrine

Officially known as full-spectrum superiority and defined by the U.S. military as:
The cumulative effect of dominance in the air, land, maritime, and space domains and information environment that permits the conduct of joint operations without effective opposition or prohibitive interference.[1]

The United States military's doctrine has espoused a strategic intent to be capable of achieving this state in a conflict, either alone or with allies[2] by defeating any adversary and controlling any situation across the range of military operations.

The stated intent implies significant investment in a range of capabilities; dominant maneuver, precision engagement, focused logistics, and full-dimensional protection.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-spectrum_dominance

SamHarris

df1985 wrote: »

why exactly are the US doing this?

Australia is seeking closer ties for the same reason Ireland would seek closer ties with the most powerful military force in the world if, say France was a rising military power whoms intentions we new little or nothing about and certainly feared.

There is a similiar movement in Japan, South Korea and even Thailand as China becomes more assertive.

The US does it because Australia is probably the US' greatest ally, barring maybe Canada and the UK, it is also a signal to other ASEAN nations that it still has interests in the region.

RichieC

df1985 wrote: »

why exactly are the US doing this?

The US will do everything in its power to ensure the wars they seek do not land on their own shores. like they did during the cold war, placed nukes in Britain.. easier targets for the old soviets, and even today with their missile platforms in Europe.

They love a good war but the reality of it is secret and you'll only find out if you join the army.

In short, they're a bunch of pussys.

marcsignal

RichieC wrote: »

The US will do everything in its power to ensure the wars they seek do not land on their own shores. like they did during the cold war, placed nukes in Britain.. easier targets for the old soviets, and even today with their missile platforms in Europe.

They love a good war but the reality of it is secret and you'll only find out if you join the army.

In short, they're a bunch of pussys.

+1

They're making up for the fact that they were late for the last two world wars, by being really punctual this time

ejmaztec

SamHarris wrote: »

Australia is seeking closer ties for the same reason Ireland would seek closer ties with the most powerful military force in the world if, say France was a rising military power whoms intentions we new little or nothing about and certainly feared.

There is a similiar movement in Japan, South Korea and even Thailand as China becomes more assertive.

The US does it because Australia is probably the US' greatest ally, barring maybe Canada and the UK.

They're only pretending to be an ally, because they live next door.

Chuck Stone

RichieC wrote: »

They love a good war but the reality of it is secret and you'll only find out if you join the army.

In short, they're a bunch of pussys.

*alarm goes off in some U.S. monitoring center - stored and filed for intelligence*

Son Of A Vidic

KeithAFC wrote: »

The Yankee Army seem to be trying to forge a better relationship with Australia.

The Yankee army? As opposed to what?........The Confederate army?

SamHarris

RichieC wrote: »

The US will do everything in its power to ensure the wars they seek do not land on their own shores. like they did during the cold war, placed nukes in Britain.. easier targets for the old soviets, and even today with their missile platforms in Europe.

They love a good war but the reality of it is secret and you'll only find out if you join the army.

In short, they're a bunch of pussys.

Wow...

KeithAFC

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

The Yankee army? As opposed to what?........The Confederate army?

No. Talking about the US marines heading to Australia.

SamHarris

ejmaztec wrote: »

They're only pretending to be an ally, because they live next door.

Waiting for their moment to strike?

average hero

Just like to say that I have met many Marines throughout my life, and regardless of what their government puts them through, the organization is truly one to behold. They sacrifice a huge amount, and instil honour, and discipline into 90% of their troops (there will always be bad eggs).

It is one of the last bastions of tradition, masculinity, and discipline in the modern world.

RichieC

average hero wrote: »

Just like to say that I have met many Marines throughout my life, and regardless of what their government puts them through, the organization is truly one to behold. They sacrifice a huge amount, and instil honour, and discipline into 90% of their troops (there will always be bad eggs).

It is one of the last bastions of tradition, masculinity, and discipline in the modern world.

and the current price of a head of cabbage is?

marcsignal

average hero wrote: »

Just like to say that I have met many Marines throughout my life, and regardless of what their government puts them through, the organization is truly one to behold. They sacrifice a huge amount, and instil honour, and discipline into 90% of their troops (there will always be bad eggs).

It is one of the last bastions of tradition, masculinity, and discipline in the modern world.

Yeah, proper brave heroes. Pure Gentlemen :rolleyes:

Latchy

Those Yankee boys won't be to unfamiliar about Aus because some of their grand pappies were stationed over there during WW2 while waiting to be shipped over to the Philippines and Guadalcana to kill the sons of bitchs Nippon .

Skippy and co will be worried again ...very worried and keeping a close eye on their shelias .

Teclo

marcsignal wrote: »

Yeah, proper brave heroes. Pure Gentlemen :rolleyes:

Those gents are not marines.

Son Of A Vidic

KeithAFC wrote: »

No. Talking about the US marines heading to Australia.

Then why refer to a factually incorrect unit at all then?

marcsignal wrote: »

Yeah, proper brave heroes. Pure Gentlemen :rolleyes:

Wrong, there are no USMC personnel in those photos nor should there be. The unit involved in the Abu Ghraib prisoner scandal was a Military Police unit.

marcsignal

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Wrong, there are no USMC personnel in those photos nor should there be. The unit involved in the Abu Ghraib prisoner scandal was a Military Police unit.

Teclo wrote: »

Those gents are not marines.

In those particular photos ? Perhaps. But you both reckon their overall reputation is squeaky clean then ?

KeithAFC

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Then why refer to a factually incorrect unit at all then?



Wrong, there are no USMC personnel in those photos nor should there be. The unit involved in the Abu Ghraib prisoner scandal was a Military Police unit.

Just a nickname. No big deal.

Wattle

I'd love to go but I've got flat feet. Sorry.