Sweets and junk everywhere, but try to find a healthy place, now that's a challenge.

kjl

So I was in Tesco today and was walking down the aisles when I noticed that they only seem to sell junk food. There are 5 food aisles in the tesco in Rathmines and three of them are donated to junk food.

Add to this the fact that every news agent and petrol station has a massive row of sweets and crisps at the counter.

Then anywhere you try to get food is mostly populated by fast food burgers, chips, pizza but try to find any kind of convenient place to buy healthy food and you're out of luck.

Is it any wonder there are so many fat people around?

I think it's time we took action and start to remove these kind of products from supermarkets and newsagents. There should be dedicated shops for these products which require a licence to operate, and if newsagents and petrol station wish to sell these products they can only be limited to a small amount of shell space.

These products cause more harm then any illegal drug, and at the rate we are going everyone in the country will have type 2 diabetes.

I know myself that I gave up eating these things a few years ago and even now it is so tempting just seeing them sitting there every time I am in a shop. It's like having a former cocaine addict having to look at mountains of cocaine every time they want to buy milk.

MrStuffins

kjl wrote: »

I think it's time we took action and start to remove these kind of products from supermarkets and newsagents. There should be dedicated shops for these products which require a licence to operate

These products cause more harm then any illegal drug

Oh DO shut up! :rolleyes:

CliffHuxtabel

kjl wrote: »

It's like having a former cocaine addict having to look at mountains of cocaine every time they want to buy milk.

You make a good point cocaine.....I mean OP

Hasmunch

kjl wrote: »

It's like having a former cocaine addict having to look at mountains of cocaine every time they want to buy milk.

Ah the good old cocaine aisle in Tesco... things haven't been quite the same since they got rid of it.

CopperPipe

1850 715 815

LighterGuy

kjl wrote: »

I think it's time we took action and start to remove these kind of products from supermarkets and newsagents. There should be dedicated shops for these products which require a licence to operate, and if newsagents and petrol station wish to sell these products they can only be limited to a small amount of shell space.

You'll find the reason why Tesco and other places sell so much junk food is because there is a big market for it but more importantly it sells.

NuckyT

kjl wrote: »

I think it's time we took action and start to remove these kind of products from supermarkets and newsagents. There should be dedicated shops for these products which require a licence to operate, and if newsagents and petrol station wish to sell these products they can only be limited to a small amount of shell space.

These products cause more harm then any illegal drug, and at the rate we are going everyone in the country will have type 2 diabetes.

Isn't that stealing?

Napper Hawkins

kjl wrote: »

So I was in Tesco today and was walking down the aisles when I noticed that they only seem to sell junk food. There are 5 food aisles in the tesco in Rathmines and three of them are donated to junk food.

Add to this the fact that every news agent and petrol station has a massive row of sweets and crisps at the counter.

Then anywhere you try to get food is mostly populated by fast food burgers, chips, pizza but try to find any kind of convenient place to buy healthy food and you're out of luck.

Is it any wonder there are so many fat people around?

I think it's time we took action and start to remove these kind of products from supermarkets and newsagents. There should be dedicated shops for these products which require a licence to operate, and if newsagents and petrol station wish to sell these products they can only be limited to a small amount of shell space.

These products cause more harm then any illegal drug, and at the rate we are going everyone in the country will have type 2 diabetes.

I know myself that I gave up eating these things a few years ago and even now it is so tempting just seeing them sitting there every time I am in a shop. It's like having a former cocaine addict having to look at mountains of cocaine every time they want to buy milk.

So basically because you gave up ****e you want to force everyone else to give up too so you don't have to suffer alone?

You realise how ridiculous you sound?

We should basically ban walking because no one got hit by a car by having a bath.

kjl

MrStuffins wrote: »

Oh DO shut up! :rolleyes:

Well obviously from your user name you would just die if they got rid of sweets from the shops. Lucky you have your computer screen there to protect you from your waistline.

Hasmunch

Napper Hawkins wrote: »

We should basically ban walking because no one got hit by a car by having a bath.

I agree.... wait what????

kjl

Napper Hawkins wrote: »

So basically because you gave up ****e you want to force everyone else to give up too so you don't have to suffer alone?

You realise how ridiculous you sound?

We should basically ban walking because no one got hit by a car by having a bath.

I didn't say anything about banning, just regulating them. Having specific shop to sell the stuff and legal requirements that don't allow them to be shoved down peoples necks.

Napper Hawkins

kjl wrote: »

I didn't say anything about banning, just regulating them. Having specific shop to sell the stuff and legal requirements that don't allow them to be shoved down peoples necks.

Adults should be free to make their own decisions.

Something this joke of an island has yet to understand.

MrStuffins

kjl wrote: »

Well obviously from your user name you would just die if they got rid of sweets from the shops. Lucky you have your computer screen there to protect you from your waistline.

What you just said made no sense whatsoever!

smk89

Today i drank an entire bottle of tesco's brand of redbull.
It tastes all the sweeter knowing people like you eat salad.

MrStuffins

kjl wrote: »

I didn't say anything about banning, just regulating them. Having specific shop to sell the stuff and legal requirements that don't allow them to be shoved down peoples necks.

I think you'll find people shove them down their own necks.

I think you'll find these people are adults who are more than capable of making their own decisions as to what to eat.

Your idea is one of the most ridiculous things i've ever read on Boards and that's really saying something!

Hasmunch

kjl wrote: »

I didn't say anything about banning, just regulating them. Having specific shop to sell the stuff and legal requirements that don't allow them to be shoved down peoples necks.

Why bother with regulating them, that would just make us become a nanny state.
Lets instead hope a dictator comes into power and removes all unhealthy foods from circulation in Ireland. We dont need choice we need someone else to tell us whats good for us..

Oranage2

How come people weren't fat when the church was in charge?

I blame Atheism for making people fat!

To combat fatness I think we should extend the angelus to an hour.

Hasmunch

Also i would like to add

YOU DON'T WIN FRIENDS WITH SALAD

MrStuffins

Hasmunch wrote: »

Why bother with regulating them, that would just make us become a nanny state.

BECOME a nanny state? I can't even buy a bottle of beer after 10pm!

smk89

Hasmunch wrote: »

Also i would like to add

YOU DON'T WIN FRIENDS WITH SALAD

Time for a 2am conga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM6xVQwIOYQ

Hasmunch

MrStuffins wrote: »

BECOME a nanny state? I can't even buy a bottle of beer after 10pm!

Well thats simple really, if we could buy drink after 10pm there's a very high chance that we will all become alcoholics.

Pace2008

Where to find a healthy place? You could have considered wheeling your trolley 10 metres towards the fruit-and-veg section.

MrStuffins

Hasmunch wrote: »

Well thats simple really, if we could buy drink after 10pm there's a very high chance that we will all become alcoholics.

Hmmm..........

I would very much like to subscribe to your newsletter.

LighterGuy

Hasmunch wrote: »

Well thats simple really, if we could buy drink after 10pm there's a very high chance that we will all become alcoholics.

I dont mean to be rude, but that is ridiculous.
Sure off-licences were open till 11.30 during the week and 12.30 (fri/sat) for years. Didnt make more alcoholics and did it really stop so called "binge" drinking?

You still hear people drunk as f**k singing while walking home from a local club :P and town is still busy with drunks at 4am on weekends. Did it really change a thing? .. expect annoying people with having to buy their alcohol before 10pm.

MrStuffins

LighterGuy wrote: »

I dont mean to be rude, but that is ridiculous.

I could be wrong but i'm pretty sure that was the point.

kjl

Pace2008 wrote: »

Where to find a healthy place? You could have considered wheeling your trolley 10 metres towards the fruit-and-veg section.

I did specify fast food, you don't need to tell me about the fruit and veg section thank you very much.

Laisurg

kjl wrote: »

I didn't say anything about banning, just regulating them. Having specific shop to sell the stuff and legal requirements that don't allow them to be shoved down peoples necks.

There is a thing called choice you know.... Good luck with your campaign, you'll need it :pac:

MrStuffins

kjl wrote: »

I did specify fast food, you don't need to tell me about the fruit and veg section thank you very much.

If you know where the Fruit & Veg are then what's your problem?

kjl

LighterGuy wrote: »

I dont mean to be rude, but that is ridiculous.
Sure off-licences were open till 11.30 during the week and 12.30 (fri/sat) for years. Didnt make more alcoholics and did it really stop so called "binge" drinking?

You still hear people drunk as f**k singing while walking home from a local club :P and town is still busy with drunks at 4am on weekends. Did it really change a thing? .. expect annoying people with having to buy their alcohol before 10pm.

Of course not, there are no alcoholics in Ireland :rolleyes:

I do feel that if people had to actively go looking for sweets it would lower the consumption rate.

LighterGuy

MrStuffins wrote: »

I could be wrong but i'm pretty sure that was the point.

No,
If I was going to be genuinely rude i would of said something worse than ridiculous. It was just a "Not being bad, but i think you're wrong" post as opposed to "i think you are a fu*king fool" tone implied....Like for example if I said "Mrstuffings, i dont mean to be rude but i think you are an offense little knob-end" - that would be me being rude. If I ever say that of course

kjl

Laisurg wrote: »

There is a thing called choice you know.... Good luck with your campaign, you'll need it :pac:

Right, well then why can't I smoke cannabis or take ecstasy instead of drinking?

LighterGuy

kjl wrote: »

Of course not, there are no alcoholics in Ireland :rolleyes:

I do feel that if people had to actively go looking for sweets it would lower the consumption rate.

Ok,
do you have any documentation/proof/anything that because of the 10pm change that there are currently less alcoholics in 2011 than say 10 years ago, 2001, when the old closing times applied?

PrettyBoy

What do you mean healthy food?? Tesco stocks more or less everything a normal health food store would and then some. If you want healthy food it's readily available, literally everywhere.

MrStuffins

LighterGuy wrote: »

No,
If I was going to be genuinely rude i would of said something worse than ridiculous. It was just a "Not being bad, but i think you're wrong" post as opposed to "i think you are a fu*king fool" tone implied....Like for example if I said "Mrstuffings, i dont mean to be rude but i think you are an offense little knob-end" - that would be me being rude. If I ever say that of course

No, you don't get it.

He was being sarcastic.

MrStuffins

kjl wrote: »

Right, well then why can't I smoke cannabis or take ecstasy instead of drinking?

Because both those things are illegal.

You have a choice of legal things.

Napper Hawkins

kjl wrote: »

Of course not, there are no alcoholics in Ireland :rolleyes:

I do feel that if people had to actively go looking for sweets it would lower the consumption rate.

Or make them want them even more.

kjl

LighterGuy wrote: »

Ok,
do you have any documentation/proof/anything that because of the 10pm change that there are currently less alcoholics in 2011 than say 10 years ago, 2001, when the old closing times applied?

I don't, but don't forget when they changed that rule you mainly had to go to off licences to buy alcohol, now you can get it anywhere.

This county is full of alcoholics, most people here would drink a lot more then the recommended weekly intake of alcohol. The problem with alcoholism is that you don't realise it's a problem until it's a serious problem.

Hasmunch

I was taking the piss as in it is ridiculous that off licences have to close at 10pm and that was what MrStuffins was pointing out.
You could have said lighterguy, i respect your opinion but....

Laisurg

kjl wrote: »

Right, well then why can't I smoke cannabis or take ecstasy instead of drinking?

You can, just not legally. Anyone who eats enough sweets and or fast food to cause them health issues would probably buy them anyway even if there was some regulation put into place.

MrStuffins

kjl wrote: »

I don't, but don't forget when they changed that rule you mainly had to go to off licences to buy alcohol, now you can get it anywhere.

I'm sorry bit that? What do you mean by this exactly?

IIRC, the law was changed in 2008. Where is this "anywhere" you speak of? Which places can you buy alcohol in now that you couldn't in 2008?

Tar.Aldarion

wait so the people that put it there (by popular demand) should now be 'doing something about it' to remove it? Wtf are you talking about.

Hasmunch

kjl wrote: »

Right, well then why can't I smoke cannabis or take ecstasy instead of drinking?

You can, these aren't regulated though so you can get them at any time of the day or night unlike alcohol.

Kanoe

not too much of a challenge op, just bypass the junk in the supermarket and go directly to fresh fruit and veg, meats, eggs and cereals. As for fast food, not all of it is crap, subways aren't too bad and even when surrounded by fast food joints today I managed to walk into a centra and pick up a salad bowl for lunch. For half the price you would pay for a burger and chip or chicken box too. You still get to choose what you want to eat.

Chuck Stone

I think we should ban people from calling for bans and restrict people who seek ever greater restrictions.

MrStuffins

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

wait so the people that put it there (by popular demand) should now be 'doing something about it' to remove it? Wtf are you talking about.

Basically the OP used to have a cocaine-like sweet addiction. An addiction which got so bad that she (I presume for some reason it's a she) had to give them up.

But now she sees sweets everywhere she goes. They're in the shop, they're in the garage, they're in Tesco and even the Tesco garage.

So, instead of the OP being an adult and just ignoring the temptation, she feels the rest of the country should not be allowed buy sweets. That if someone wants to sell sweets they must open a specialist sweet store and hole a specialist sweet selling licence.

Sounds reasonable!

kjl

MrStuffins wrote: »

Because both those things are illegal.

You have a choice of legal things.

By that rational if sweets were made illegal you wouldn't have a choice. Neither of the products I mentioned kill people, 1 in 11 deaths in the UK are obesity related and in the USA in 2010 400,000 people dies from obesity related deaths.

If the laws are meant to protect you, then why hasn't this crap been made illegal years ago.

Anyway, derailing here, I am not even suggesting we make them illegal just regulated.

Hasmunch

Anybody else got a craving for some sweets after reading this thread..











*goes off to Tesco as Hasmunch heard its good for sweets

LighterGuy

kjl wrote: »

By that rational if sweets were made illegal you wouldn't have a choice. Neither of the products I mentioned kill people, 1 in 11 deaths in the UK are obesity related and in the USA in 2010 400,000 people dies from obesity related deaths.

If the laws are meant to protect you, then why hasn't this crap been made illegal years ago.

Anyway, derailing here, I am not even suggesting we make them illegal just regulated.

Free choice tho. Its a person choice to eat junk food or not. No one has the right to say to another that they cant eat a bar of chocolate or a pack of crisps.

MrStuffins

kjl wrote: »

By that rational if sweets were made illegal you wouldn't have a choice.

By that rationale if air was made illegal you wouldn't be able to breathe without going to prison.

Neither of the products I mentioned kill people

I'm pretty sure ectasy kills people. You mght wanna look that one up/

1 in 11 deaths in the UK are obesity related and in the USA in 2010 400,000 people dies from obesity related deaths.

Super! So 10 in 11 deaths had nothing to do with obesity then yeah?

CUPCAKES FOR ALL!!!!!!

If the laws are meant to protect you, then why hasn't this crap been made illegal years ago.

Because banning things that were unhealthy for you would be retarded. VERY retarded. Instead, people are given the choice. Simple!

Anyway, derailing here, I am not even suggesting we make them illegal just regulated.

I'm suggesting your idea is crazier than crazy! I'm suggesting that we shouldn't ban sweets just because you feel like a cocaine addict when you look at them and want them. I'm suggesting that people are able to control themselves and balance their diet healthily.

kjl

MrStuffins wrote: »

Basically the OP used to have a cocaine-like sweet addiction. An addiction which got so bad that she (I presume for some reason it's a she) had to give them up.

But now she sees sweets everywhere she goes. They're in the shop, they're in the garage, they're in Tesco and even the Tesco garage.

So, instead of the OP being an adult and just ignoring the temptation, she feels the rest of the country should not be allowed buy sweets. That if someone wants to sell sweets they must open a specialist sweet store and hole a specialist sweet selling licence.

Sounds reasonable!

Well actually I am a man, and no I didn't have a serious addiction, but about 3 years ago I started to eat healthy. I cut out all saturated fats, refined carbohydrates and sugar from my diet. I also exercise 3/4 times a week.

I look around at the state of the people of this country and wonder if maybe we regulated sugar the rising obesity epidemic might be curved a little if people who are trying to cut out these foods aren't so tempted. I think it's perfectly reasonable to create legislation which limits the number of junk food items stocked in newsagents because all they are now is glorified sweet shops.

You're just a negative dickh^&d who spends his entire day trying to put down other peoples ideas. Maybe you should have a look in the mirror and ask yourself would you be one of the people to benefit from this?

kjl

LighterGuy wrote: »

Free choice tho. Its a person choice to eat junk food or not. No one has the right to say to another that they cant eat a bar of chocolate or a pack of crisps.

If free choice is the issue then surely people should be able to chose what substance they can get intoxicated with. I am not banning free choice, if you wish to purchase these items you can. I am just saying that if they were not so readily available then maybe the consumption rate would go down.