J1 2012

HavingCrack

JohnMearsheimer wrote: »

Everywhere in the US is strict about id. I'm 27 and have been refused service in bars in the US a few times. I went for dinner with my 32 year old cousin one night, they wouldn't serve her because she didn't have id.

To be fair New York and DC are both pretty relaxed id wise. I rarely got asked in DC and got asked once in 3 months in Manhattan. North Carolina isn't too bad either. California, New Jersey and Boston are the worst by a long way.

JohnMearsheimer

HavingCrack wrote: »

To be fair New York and DC are both pretty relaxed id wise. I rarely got asked in DC and got asked once in 3 months in Manhattan. North Carolina isn't too bad either. California, New Jersey and Boston are the worst by a long way.

I've always been been asked for id in New York and DC. The only place I've been served in the US without id was in Seattle. US bar staff don't seem to apply common sense at all. When I was there I had a massive beard and I look my age. Underage J1s will just have to chance their arm.

ShortskirtCiara

I would definitely recommend Montauk, Long Island. Unbelievable place. I went over for summer 2009 and I would definitely go back in a heartbeat. Its a little small town at the end of Long Island, a 3hr train drive from NYC. You wake up and your basically on the beach, what more could you want. Place is full of Irish J1ers which is great for meeting people and having the craic. Jobs are easy to come by as well, I worked as a receptionist in a place called Wavecrest Resort, and I'm still in contact with the owners to this day. I'd recommend working in the likes of Montauk Downs Golf Club, Gurneys or even babysitting which is very well paid considering your basically minding millionaires children. Being 21 in Montauk isn't an issue either. You can get in anywhere with no hassle and there is always beach parties going on as well so you'll be fine! Accommodation wise theres not much choice, two main places, Ann Breyers(small and I mean VERY small cottages) or Tipperary Inn which are basically one room with bunkbeds and a bathroom, no cooking facilities or anything.

If your after a fun, fairly drunken J1 with other Irish people then I'd recommend Montauk! If anyone wants job contacts, feel free to pm me!

Kittycatc

mpbmpb wrote: »

Hey all . .

A Big gang of us from Cork/tipperary are headed to Ocean City this summer too heading out on the 25th! and wer all first time j1ers just looking to have the craic! My sister went there in 2010 and had a class summer! As far as I know shed said unless your 21 it's houseparties all the way!

where in cork ye from?

Feekeey

Hi,

Myself and several others are heading Ocean City this summer for a J1.
Most of which are 21+.
Any one have any advice or anyone who just came from there last summer on the place?
Also is there any quality accomodation or not ****?

cheers!

mpbmpb

Kittycatc wrote: »

where in cork ye from?

All over really from midelton, kanturk,mallow to macroom. why?

usernamefml

cr92 wrote: »

Hey me and about 7 others are thinking of going to ocean city summer12 but we will all only be 20 is that a major issue here or do some places let you in with a wristband if your over 18?

If your not 21 i would steer clear of ocean city maryland. Place is a nightmare, only except passports everywhere except one night club which scans drivers licences for hallmarks and can tell fakes, but if you have somebody elses drivers licence thats real and looks like you then you can get in. So many got arrested for under age drinking and house parties.. not worth it!

Theres no such thing as being allowed in with wristbands or stamps if your u21. If your not 21, your not getting in at all! If you are 21 you get bands on entry in most places and if you pass those bands back to the underagers outside in one piece then yer in!

If you are 21 though.. Ocean city is unbelievable.

usernamefml

Feekeey wrote: »

Hi,

Myself and several others are heading Ocean City this summer for a J1.
Most of which are 21+.
Any one have any advice or anyone who just came from there last summer on the place?
Also is there any quality accomodation or not ****?

cheers!

Your in for a serious summer! Was there this summer. All Irish were living below 15th st.. you dont want to be up any further than that. It goes 15th st and down to 2nd and then theres the named streets.. The poor area where j1ers can afford rent! Most places are ok just dont rent somewhere without air con. Its ok in june but once july hits you wont be able to sleep..

If you go to the waterpark on like 30th street in early june they should be hiring lifeguards and they train you up, no experience required! You dont need CV's anywhere, just ask for the manager and talk them into hiring you.

Watch out for the police there.. they are EVERYWHERE, on foot, horses, bikes, you name it. Theyl do you for anything and arrested a heap of Irish. They HATED us. Theyl make you appreciate Irish gardai!

Leeg17

Does anyone know the total average cost of a J1?

I'm assuming depending on the city/job you choose you should be able to live off of what you make, I'm referring to admin costs/visa/flights/taxes etc.

Just researching at the moment, but cost will be the biggest factor.

11811Karen

Hey guys, a few friends and I are planning on heading on a J1 this summer for the first time! all of us are over 21..

First of all, would you recommend USIT, Sayit or go4less? there seems to be mixed reports about them all and its hard to know which company to go with!

We were also thinking of going to New York for the summer. Anyone who was there in recent years, what was your experience like - re jobs, accommodation, nightlife, other Irish living there etc?

Would also think about San Fran, Ocean City, Boston... Pros and cons????

Thanks in advance, and sorry for all the questions lol!! :P

revz

Hey,

Myself & 2 friends have our J1 booked, we're about to start looking at flights in the next couple of days. Our plan is to go to Chicago... We were hoping to fly into O'Hare, and fly back out of New York. Our go4less flight engine says this is possible but could cost more, does anyone know how much the difference could be? (I'm not sure if I can click into it and I'm scared if I click into one I won't be able to click the other :pac: flight engine saying 'If you are ready to submit your request to fly in and out of different airports click here' before I can see the flights)

Also, Could anyone point me in some sort of a decent direction about where to look for accommodation? It's me & 2 other guys...should we be looking for more people to chip in with or could getting our own place work out?
I've tried looking at craigslist and the likes but haven't a breeze where to start, and looked at some fancy student places like Fornelli Hall but think they might be out of our price range (unless I'm interpreting something wrong...)

Any help/advice appreciated!

tvercetti

Was looking through the application for the J1 on USIT, is it necessary to know when your flying in order to apply for the J1. At the second step I was asked for departure date and I think the date of start of visa.

Is it possible to apply for the visa without flight dates, in the event I have a change of mind. If I was granted a J1 and didn't use it, would it set me back if I attempted to go next year instead.

TheBrackAttack

Just booked my J1 to Chicago with 10 others! Many heading there this year?

mikeythomas90

Me & a few mates are torn between Chicago & Ocean City...Some reckon Ocean City will get boring after the first month as it'll be the "same thing over & over again"...Although beach & parties sounds great to me...

Anybody have any information on that? Would Ocean City get boring after a month or so?

Seems like LOADS of Irish are going to Ocean City this year! :-)

XxMCRxBabyxX

mikeythomas90 wrote: »

Me & a few mates are torn between Chicago & Ocean City...Some reckon Ocean City will get boring after the first month as it'll be the "same thing over & over again"...Although beach & parties sounds great to me...

Anybody have any information on that? Would Ocean City get boring after a month or so?

Seems like LOADS of Irish are going to Ocean City this year! :-)

Just wondering but would people not prefer to go to somewhere not full of Irish?!

Personally I'd prefer that. I'd stay at home if I wanted to be around Irish people!

HavingCrack

Leeg17 wrote: »

Does anyone know the total average cost of a J1?

I'm assuming depending on the city/job you choose you should be able to live off of what you make, I'm referring to admin costs/visa/flights/taxes etc.

Just researching at the moment, but cost will be the biggest factor.

All in all I spent 2500 euro-including what I earned for 2 and a half months. I think I might have had another 200 to 300 in other fees before I went.

fearbainne

I went to Chicago, unbelievable spot.. loved it

Accom was hard enough ta come by it really helps if ya have something sorted out there before ya go... Otherwise stay in the getaway hostel for a few days, great craic n fulla irish, try stay with a few of them... also gota Dan O'Donnell in Armitage, especially if your a girl, he put some of my mates (girls) up in his penthouse apartment, took them out on the yacht etc. total creep but sure fcuk it he gives ya loads n buys ya food n drink n ****.. He'll also give ya a password n username for the de paul unis computers which is really handy...

I lived near magnolia avenue in wrigleyville which is perfect location ta live, really central n close to the red n brown lines..

Jobs were alright ta come by.. I went to the local alderman (like a td) n he gave me n a mate a few jobs pullin weeds n **** like that around the area for 10 dollars an hour, not payin taxes.. really handy cos no1 was supervisin so i spent a good 4 hours of the day at the beach.. Places on Navy Pier are always hirin too...

I was 20, so had a fake irish license, it worked everywhere the irish j1rs were goin but not in the city centre fancy kinda spots..

Went to Navy Pier and got on everythin for free, just pretend ya work somewhere down there and every place on the pier will give ya free stuff i.e. free boat tours, ferris wheel rides, ben n jerrys, etc.

Snuck inta Lollapalloza, its like oxegen except ya cant camp so ya havta sneak in everyday.. 1st day i bribed a stewart 20 dollars, 2nd day i jumped a few fences with about 30 other irish lads, savage craic.. 3rd day i jumped a fence on my own where there was f all security, happy enough..

Dunno what else ta say really, spent my days drunk at the beach, got kicked outta some cubs (baseball) matches, snuck inta U2, got cheap ticks for Britney and Rihanna outside.. Went to an American Football match..

My advice, try everythin, be cheeky as fcuk n try get things for free, it works alot.. Try sneakin inta places, its the best craic if it works.. one of my mates robbed jewel osco everyday for foodand drink (on one ocassion he stole 6 2litres bottles of vodka within 30 mins..) Go to block parties, they are '10 dollars' in, but thats optional so naurally no1 irish pay..

Any q's about anytin gimme a shout, i know thers a lot ther n some might seem like bs but it all hapend, best summer of my life.. wont forget it n might be back this year..


Oh yeah, i went with USIT.. dont think it makes much of a difference really but usit were fairly sound had no probs at all..

mikeythomas90

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

Just wondering but would people not prefer to go to somewhere not full of Irish?!

Personally I'd prefer that. I'd stay at home if I wanted to be around Irish people!

I'd like the novelty of being one of a few Irish alright but it would also be sweet to party with other Irish in an American Beach Resort...Don't mind either way...It's Chicago or OC for me & both are meant to littered with irish

neil.p.b

11811Karen wrote: »

Hey guys, a few friends and I are planning on heading on a J1 this summer for the first time! all of us are over 21..

First of all, would you recommend USIT, Sayit or go4less? there seems to be mixed reports about them all and its hard to know which company to go with!

We were also thinking of going to New York for the summer. Anyone who was there in recent years, what was your experience like - re jobs, accommodation, nightlife, other Irish living there etc?

Would also think about San Fran, Ocean City, Boston... Pros and cons????

Thanks in advance, and sorry for all the questions lol!! :P

Usit are very expensive. I went go4less and found them good.

revz wrote: »

Hey,

Myself & 2 friends have our J1 booked, we're about to start looking at flights in the next couple of days. Our plan is to go to Chicago... We were hoping to fly into O'Hare, and fly back out of New York. Our go4less flight engine says this is possible but could cost more, does anyone know how much the difference could be? (I'm not sure if I can click into it and I'm scared if I click into one I won't be able to click the other :pac: flight engine saying 'If you are ready to submit your request to fly in and out of different airports click here' before I can see the flights)

Also, Could anyone point me in some sort of a decent direction about where to look for accommodation? It's me & 2 other guys...should we be looking for more people to chip in with or could getting our own place work out?
I've tried looking at craigslist and the likes but haven't a breeze where to start, and looked at some fancy student places like Fornelli Hall but think they might be out of our price range (unless I'm interpreting something wrong...)

Any help/advice appreciated!

If you decide on Chicago just try live on the red-line (train), anywhere around lakeview. You'd be better off booking a hostel (the getaway) for the first few days, get to know the areas and look for an apartment then. The 3 of you could definitely live together. You'd probably get a 1-bed for less than 1000, and 2-3 for 1000-1500 (in good enough areas). There are loads of apartments on craigslist but its a nightmare to search through.

tvercetti wrote: »

Was looking through the application for the J1 on USIT, is it necessary to know when your flying in order to apply for the J1. At the second step I was asked for departure date and I think the date of start of visa.

Is it possible to apply for the visa without flight dates, in the event I have a change of mind. If I was granted a J1 and didn't use it, would it set me back if I attempted to go next year instead.

No, you just give rough dates at the start. You can apply without definite dates,not sure about consequences of not using it.

mikeythomas90 wrote: »

Me & a few mates are torn between Chicago & Ocean City...Some reckon Ocean City will get boring after the first month as it'll be the "same thing over & over again"...Although beach & parties sounds great to me...

Anybody have any information on that? Would Ocean City get boring after a month or so?

Seems like LOADS of Irish are going to Ocean City this year! :-)

If you don't want to go where loads of irish are you'll have to do some researching. People always end up going to the same spot because they have heard of it through other J1ers having gone or going. Chicago is a great city but it is flooded with Irish during the summer.

fearbainne wrote: »

Accom was hard enough ta come by it really helps if ya have something sorted out there before ya go... Otherwise stay in the getaway hostel for a few days

I was 20, so had a fake irish license, it worked everywhere the irish j1rs were goin but not in the city centre fancy kinda spots..

I didn't find accommodation that hard to come by, walk around lakeiview for a while and you'll no doubt come across for rent signs. I'd say it'd be better not having a place before you go. Get there, stay in the getaway for a few days, get to know the area and where you want to live and then you can actually view an apartment before taking it, pictures can be deceiving sometimes.

Fake IDs will work in a lot places, but once the usual good spots get found out and EVERY irish person ends up in that bar on that night they get very strict with ID. With the amount of bars over there you'll of course find places that accept fake IDs but with Chicago becoming an increasingly popular J1 spot the popular bars have gotten stricter (i was there last summer for a few days visiting friends and couldn't get into a bar just because i was irish!)

ShortskirtCiara

Leeg17 wrote: »

Does anyone know the total average cost of a J1?

I'm assuming depending on the city/job you choose you should be able to live off of what you make, I'm referring to admin costs/visa/flights/taxes etc.

Just researching at the moment, but cost will be the biggest factor.

€2,000 is the normal cost, maybe more or a little tiny bit less!

littlenightowl

Hey!


Anyone been in san fran,san diego,huntington beach or somewhere else in the states (colorado..NYC Hawaii etc.) that can look at them with any or all or this in mind? it would be a HUGE help

looking for somewhere with consistent but forgiving surf so I can improve my surfing (just about intermediate at the mo, on a 7.2) and try longboarding
i think San Frans' beaches are for more advanced surfers?how about huntington or san diego?

Also would like to be able to get around on a skateboard so not tooo hilly but beggars cant be choosers and the surfs more important

a bitta sun too, friendly people, bitta nightlife altern. music, like the sound of beach/house parties. gigs r always good!

Goin with two other Irish girls and wouldnt mind being with other Irish but I'd like to get to know locals too, getting a bit of an impression that san diego is choked with irish..?

Lastly somewhere relatively light on the pocket, maybe jobs in lifeguarding or waitressing?do most people travel around on J1s if they cant decide?lol

Feekeey

Cheers for that.

Also,

I will have to come back start of August and will wither go back ocean city for another month or just stay in ireland.
Is it worth going for just 8 weeks?
and I wont know if i will be able to afford to go back. Depends on money i make overthere and money i save here.

cheers

andy2854

Anybody thinking about Los Angeles , santa monica , venise beach , west wood anywhere like check out my thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76452270

alicekcork

Hey guys, group of 12 of us are thinking about heading to newport- rhode island. What is the weather like? We heard it rains loads?? Also, is it easy enough to pack more than 5 into a house?

andy2854

i heard it rains a gud bit also, thats where i was meant to be going on my first j1 then decided cali was a better option weather wise etc:D

Feekeey

Is it worth going on a J1 if its only for 8 weeks?

Da Shins Kelly

A friend and I are currently in the process of booking a J1 with Go4Less, but there seems to be conflicting information on their website, and it's making me confused and worried!

Just wondering when exactly the closing date is for Go4Less and it also says that the Application Appointment was to be completed before the 6th of January, but when I went onto my account, I was able to book an appointment at the Go4Less office and everything, and they gave me the checklist and everything. This is our first time doing this and we're just kinda freaking out a bit that we've done something wrong or something.

Dave2k10

ShortskirtCiara wrote: »

€2,000 is the normal cost, maybe more or a little tiny bit less!

€2000..? Are you flying business class or something? I went to NY last year and then onto San Fran. I paid €1250 for the flights to NY, flight to San Fran 10 weeks later and then San Fran home. Included the Visa and all other embassy and sevis charge. If you're going to NY or Chicago, it shouldn't really be anymore than €900/1000.

Johnny Blue 2

Is it possible to find work over in the states without getting the J1 visa, or are they very strict??.....

Feekeey

Awkward..... Its illegal.

JohnMearsheimer

You could try it but if you get caught you will get deported and be banned from entering the US for a good few years. If you're a student just make life easier for yourself and get the J1.

Am I Evil?

Hoping to head to San Diego :pac:

Quick question though, Is it at all possible to get the visa say through USIT but book your own flights separate? The flights are far cheaper it seems

Nemanja91

Just a heads up to anyone that you must now have atleast $1200 Instead of $900 dollars if you are heading over without a job, if you are going with USIT they will have emailed you a form to be completed and handed back in by the 25th of January, otherwise you have to pay the full €279 visa.

ironclaw

Am I Evil? wrote: »

Hoping to head to San Diego :pac:

Quick question though, Is it at all possible to get the visa say through USIT but book your own flights separate? The flights are far cheaper it seems

Short answer is no. If you book your own flights, your liable for the full Visa fee. I think in the case of Go4Less, it's €579. So unless your saving €200 or more on your flights, it really doesn't make sense to. It also means if you have any hassle with flights etc, you have to deal with it yourself.

I thought about doing the same, but the way it worked out, it was over €60 cheaper to book with Go4Less, and that was after extensive research on Skyscanner and individual airlines. It was also a Multi city flight. Saying that, the direct flights where about €70 more expensive with Go4Less, however we were saving well over €200 by now having to pay the full Visa fee.

Am I Evil?

Thanks :pac:
We've decided to just make it easier and book everything through USIT, Just have to decide between Dublin for cheaper flights or Shannon for the extra 150ish euro. But it's 20 mins drive

Legwinski

Anyone book San Fran through USIT, Sayit or Go4less and if so how much was total cost? thanks

john paulo

€980 or so!

Chopper10

Five of us thinking of thinking of heading to San Fran. Only one of us will be 21, just wondering is san-fran strict?. also what are the job prospects like?. heard that san diego is over all better any truth in this?

MadMarre

Hey,theres two of us heading over to Chicago this summer, and we're looking to house share, if anyones interested gives an email. pink-peacock@hotmail.com

TEMPLAR KNIGHT

anyone heading to san diego? looks like ill be heading there on my own wouldnt mind meeting a few people before I went or something!

ShortskirtCiara

Dave2k10 wrote: »

ShortskirtCiara wrote: »

€2,000 is the normal cost, maybe more or a little tiny bit less!

€2000..? Are you flying business class or something? I went to NY last year and then onto San Fran. I paid €1250 for the flights to NY, flight to San Fran 10 weeks later and then San Fran home. Included the Visa and all other embassy and sevis charge. If you're going to NY or Chicago, it shouldn't really be anymore than €900/1000.

So it cost you more than my figure is what your after describing there!

Kerrybai

Quick question.

Im flying to myrtle beach from dublin via atlanta. The USIT office quoted the best ticket price for the dates 3rd June to 29 August as 1009 euro. That was with Delta Airlines.

I checked myself today on skyscanner and found tickets for 751 euro on the same date with KLM. Although it does involved stopping in France on the way back to Dublin.

Do USIT have to use certain airlines? Can I recommend the flights I found to them?

ioc

anyone heading to nyc give me a shout... ianocall@hotmail.com

Folie a deux

Kerrybai wrote: »

Quick question.

Im flying to myrtle beach from dublin via atlanta. The USIT office quoted the best ticket price for the dates 3rd June to 29 August as 1009 euro. That was with Delta Airlines.

I checked myself today on skyscanner and found tickets for 751 euro on the same date with KLM. Although it does involved stopping in France on the way back to Dublin.

Do USIT have to use certain airlines? Can I recommend the flights I found to them?

You always get ripped off with the price of flights. Last year my flight cost €700 but the exact same flight on the Aer Lingus site was just over €500.

It's annoying but unfortunately its the only way you can do it as all the companies require you to book flights through them

€1000 is a crazy price for just the flights though! Mine cost €1000 for the whole thing last year..

hmmm!

Hey!! anyone book a J1 to california next summer yet. Just wondering how much it was including flights and everything as its hard to know who cheapest is as only SAYIT give the prices of flights before you book!!

kittenkatxxx

hey! where did you get the fake irish passport as i will also be only twenty !

ironclaw

kittenkatxxx wrote: »

hey! where did you get the fake irish passport as i will also be only twenty !

I'm not sure if your being serious, but having a fake or even a passport of someone else on your person is a VERY serious offense in any country. If you happen to be searched on the way into America by immigration, and its found, you'd be on the next flight home with a serious criminal record. Same would apply if the police stopped you.

Its entirely different to using your OWN old passport for a night out. Thats ok. But fake, fraudulent passports are seriously a no-no.

And a fake passport, a good one, will cost you a fortune. Seriously, drop that idea now.

kittenkatxxx

it was only a question , no need to attack me !

ironclaw

kittenkatxxx wrote: »

it was only a question , no need to attack me !

Didn't wish to attack you. Just wanted to be crystal clear. Its about as illegal as document forging goes

kittenkatxxx

i understand that , its just going to be hard going somewhere not drinking for three months when im so used to it . and i understand that it is their rules and that i could go somewhere that did allow it but i want to go there oh well ill just try to get in places when i get there