Extremely Disappointing Facts About Popular Music

Latchy

I have no axe to grind against x-factor contstants ,some are good and some are bad and it doesn't take a musical expert to understand the difference and while they are talented enough and popular with many , I couldn't and wouldn't buy a record or pay to go see people like Susan Boyle, Michelle McManus or Mary Byrne in concert ...just not my cuppa tae and that's just me but I can see their appeal and respect opinions of those that would or might want to see them .

Ray Palmer

Fact the manner in which record sales are monitored is flawed and does not accurately reflect true sales. So the information in the OP many not be true. Many idependent store figures are never recorded and back in the hay day of singles sales that was the majority of sales.

Billboard in the US uses radio play as a qualifier, you can in theory get to number 1 without selling a single record.

Latchy

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Billboard in the US uses radio play as a qualifier, you can in theory get to number 1 without selling a single record.

What I've noticed over the years with mainstream America is the public , if they really love a record /album / group / artist will lock onto them regardless of what chart position they are now or where after release .If somethings good then it doesn't need constant over plugging for somebody to decide it's good = people will always like what they like regardless of how much the album/record sold .

The_B_Man

Plus theres a much larger population in America now than there was in the times of Jimi Hendrix and The Beatles.

Eric Cartman

There are still people who claim that rap music is all shíte and has had no influence on any other genre , all the while claiming people on the x-factor have talent

MungBean

Eric Cartman wrote: »

There are still people who claim that rap music is all shíte and has had no influence on any other genre , all the while claiming people on the x-factor have talent

I think the problem is people dont actually know what talent is. Someone with a nice voice isnt talented they just have a nice voice. Its the music equivalent to a model, looks great but if they werent covered in what other people create and paraded around they would just be another good lookin person.

Same as all this xfactor shíte, they sound good (on rare occasions) but if they didnt have other peoples songs and wernt paraded around behind them they would just be the average schmuck. There's no talent involved.

InTheTrees

MungBean wrote: »

Same as all this xfactor shíte, they sound good (on rare occasions) but if they didnt have other peoples songs and wernt paraded around behind them they would just be the average schmuck. There's no talent involved.

Agreed. But there is talent involved. They're actors. They're a face. an image. Thats all simon cowell wants, a brainless actor who can do what they're told and belt out whatever pre-written supermarket musak is "popular" at the moment.

Pace2008

Eric Cartman wrote: »

There are still people who claim that rap music is all shíte and has had no influence on any other genre , all the while claiming people on the x-factor have talent

Hip Hop has never been my genre of choice, but if I hear anyone say "Ah that rap music's all ****e, they can't even sing!" or something to that extent, they are instantly disqualified from having an opinion on music, in my eyes.

Also, over 100 posts in and I haven't seen anyone spew the "Musical taste is completely subjective" line yet. I am proud of you all.

Son Of A Vidic

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

This is the saddest thing you'll read all day.
1. Creed has sold more records in the US than Jimi Hendrix

Creed are an excellent band and Hendrix is a legend so what's the problem with number 1?

AhSureTisGrand

Most of the implied "good acts" on the list are/were also extremely popular

MungBean

InTheTrees wrote: »

Agreed. But there is talent involved. They're actors. They're a face. an image. Thats all simon cowell wants, a brainless actor who can do what they're told and belt out whatever pre-written supermarket musak is "popular" at the moment.

I'd give them some credit if I thought they were clued in enough to know they are being used and to play along but I dont think they are. I think they are just Joe soaps swept up in the whole thing and think that a rigged lotto draw for stardom has something to do with them being talented.

mackg

Apple's most-downloaded iTunes songs of all time:


1. "I Gotta Feeling" by Black Eyed Peas
2. "Poker Face" by Lady Gaga
3. "Boom Boom Pow" by Black Eyed Peas
4. "I'm Yours" by Jason Mraz
5. "Viva la Vida" by Coldplay
6. "Just Dance" by Lady Gaga & Colby O'Donis
7. "Low" (feat. T-Pain) by Flo Rida
8. "Love Story" by Taylor Swift
9. "Bleeding Love" by Leona Lewis
10. "Tik Tok" by Ke$ha
11. "Disturbia" by Rihanna
12. "So What" by P!nk
13. "I Kissed a Girl" by Katy Perry
14. "Single Ladies (Put a Ring On It)" by Beyoncé
15. "Hot N Cold" by Katy Perry
16. "Stronger" by Kanye West
17. "Live Your Life" (feat. Rihanna) by T.I.
18. "Hey There Delilah" by Plain White T's
19. "Right Round" by Flo Rida
20. "Party In the U.S.A." by Miley Cyrus
21. "Don't Stop Believin'" by Journey
22. "Bad Romance" by Lady Gaga
23. "Use Somebody" by Kings of Leon
24. "Fireflies" by Owl City
25. "How to Save a Life" by The Fray

Faith+1

mackg wrote: »

Apple's most-downloaded iTunes songs of all time:

I second that

Stab*City

Original Story:

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Yatesonskates

Pace2008 wrote: »

if I hear anyone say "Ah that rap music's all ****e, they can't even sing!" or something to that extent, they are instantly disqualified from having an opinion on music, in my eyes.

According to your subjective opinion!!

Logical Fallacy

Yatesonskates wrote: »

According to your subjective opinion!!

Not really. Rap was built on spoken word delivery, it's largely consider the a spoken word piece by Gil Scott Heron was the birth of "rap". The vast majority of rap is still about spoken word delivery and always will be. It was really Nate Dogg who brought a strong singing element with the creation of G-Funk and some artists straddle a middle ground between spoken word and singing.

But to make an argument that "Ah that rap music's all ****e, they can't even sing!", as Pace mentioned as an example of people dismissing rap, then it is only logical that the person be deemed a retard who can't come up with any salient points worth listening to.

Standman

I dont get why it's depressing, pop music is junk food for the ears. Let the fat kids eat.

CrazyRabbit

robbie_998 wrote: »

I don't like R.E.M



am i alone on this ?

Only shiny happy people like them. At least you are not saying bad things about them, which is good because everybody hurts when that is done. I can't stand when people make fun of them. Personally, I like to listen to REM when I've had a bad day. Great music to drive to also. Hell, I'll take the rain so long as I can listen to some radio song by them.

OK, I'm all out of puns. I'll just stand up, leave now and go get some orange crush. And maybe do some night swimming.

Capt'n Midnight

mackg wrote: »

Apple's most-downloaded iTunes songs of all time:

Anyone got a list of most copied songs of all time for comparison ?

magma69

Who cares if Justin Bieber sold more records than The Beatles. It's amusing how people get so worked up about this stuff. So rubbish music sells. Whatever, no skin off my back. It's not like it's replacing good music.

Toby Take a Bow

magma69 wrote: »

Whatever, no skin off my back. It's not like it's replacing good music.

Not only that, but it was always the way. It's pop music, so the most generic, bland type of music that appeals to the most amount of people will obviously sell the most amount of records. Amount of records sold doesn't equal quality of music.

Napper Hawkins

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Only shiny happy people like them. At least you are not saying bad things about them, which is good because everybody hurts when that is done. I can't stand when people make fun of them. Personally, I like to listen to REM when I've had a bad day. Great music to drive to also. Hell, I'll take the rain so long as I can listen to some radio song by them.

OK, I'm all out of puns. I'll just stand up, leave now and go get some orange crush. And maybe do some night swimming.

Wait a goddamn min.......THEY'RE ALL REM SONGS!!:eek:

IcedOut

Tupac is dead

sock puppet

magma69 wrote: »

Who cares if Justin Bieber sold more records than The Beatles. It's amusing how people get so worked up about this stuff. So rubbish music sells. Whatever, no skin off my back. It's not like it's replacing good music.

Not to mention the fact that there are more people now and they're earning more money than in the 1960s.

mackg

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Anyone got a list of most copied songs of all time for comparison ?

"Real" music fans don't like to pay for stuff

Pace2008

sock puppet wrote: »

Not to mention the fact that there are more people now and they're earning more money than in the 1960s.

Not to mention the fact that The Beatles have sold hundreds of millions more records than all but one or two artists, Justin Bieber not being one of them...

Samich

People who hate people taking out the guitar at house parties are jealous because they can't play the guitar and also girls probably are impressed by the playing.

BunShopVoyeur

Samich wrote: »

People who hate people taking out the guitar at house parties are jealous because they can't play the guitar and also girls probably are impressed by the playing.

No, they're just tossers...

Pace2008

Samich wrote: »

People who hate people taking out the guitar at house parties are jealous because they can't play the guitar and also girls probably are impressed by the playing.

Or because it's almost invariably less entertaining than the stuff you can play out of speakers. I know loads of people who can play the guitar, but they wouldn't dream of taking it out at a party (bar a little bit of jamming/****ing around for fun) because they realise it's one of the more effective ways to kill the buzz.

sock puppet

Pace2008 wrote: »

Not to mention the fact that The Beatles have sold hundreds of millions more records than all but one or two artists, Justin Bieber not being one of them...

I'd have thought they were at the very top no?

sock puppet

Pace2008 wrote: »

Or because it's almost invariably less entertaining than the stuff you can play out of speakers. I know loads of people who can play the guitar, but they wouldn't dream of taking it out at a party (bar a little bit of jamming/****ing around for fun) because they realise it's one of the more effective ways to kill the buzz.

"Come on guys. I do a really good version of Fake Plastic Trees."

parker kent

Pace2008 wrote: »

Not to mention the fact that The Beatles have sold hundreds of millions more records than all but one or two artists, Justin Bieber not being one of them...

Exactly. There is zero point comparing singles sales for a plethora of reasons.

Arawn

Samich wrote: »

People who hate people taking out the guitar at house parties are jealous because they can't play the guitar and also girls probably are impressed by the playing.

nope we're too busy using our hands for other stuff rather than being tossers

c28omzk7ihsxv0

I have given up all hope for the human race...

Logical Fallacy

Samich wrote: »

People who hate people taking out the guitar at house parties are jealous because they can't play the guitar and also girls probably are impressed by the playing.

Not really, they normally do it and it kills the buzz because all they can play is Wonderwall or some Snow Patrol.

I'm generally not jealous of people who can only play one instrument and even then can only play it badly.

Brain Stroking

As Johnny Giles would say: statistics mean nothing

c28omzk7ihsxv0

Brain Stroking wrote: »

As Johnny Giles would say: statistics mean nothing

You are very right my friend, the only reason these songs sell so much is because of the 'popular' hierarchy liking them and then everyone below them following the popular trend. Then there's the propaganda and over-use on TV and radio.

conor.hogan.2

Shocking that songs in the 2000's sold more than those of the 60's (mostly 60's and mostly 2000's)

Palytoxin

Most modern music is pure s***e.
And I never really liked R.E.M.... or Bob Marley... or Justin Bieber.

Sandwlch

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Extremely Disappointing Facts About Popular Music

That an awful lot of people listen to it. And its almost all rubbish.

rainbowtrout

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Shocking that songs in the 2000's sold more than those of the 60's (mostly 60's and mostly 2000's)

Not really. There's a bigger global population today so there should be more people buying music. That and with internet etc, it's more easily available to buy anywhere.

gerryo777

earpiece wrote: »

Lick my love pump.

Great song!

Almaviva

gerryo777 wrote: »

Great song!

Not popular music though. 'Mach' is classical.

Vinta81

sock puppet wrote: »

Not to mention the fact that there are more people now and they're earning more money than in the 1960s.

There's also this thing called iTunes...music is more accessible and cheaper to buy now.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Arawn wrote: »

People who produce accoustic guitars at house parties are universally known as twats.

You lack the ability to play I see?

The people who complain about people playing guitars, or any instruments are normally envious of their ability to play. Why are these people twats? Is this the only reason?

Surely you could come up with a better argument and more original content than that?

BunShopVoyeur

Henry Deafening Malaria wrote: »

You lack the ability to play I see?

The people who complain about people playing guitars, or any instruments are normally envious of their ability to play. Why are these people twats? Is this the only reason?

Surely you could come up with a better argument and more original content than that?

I can play the guitar and I still think they're tossers. One great way to ruin a good party.

FearDark

deathrider wrote: »

Why weren't Nirvana thrown into the sh1te side of that comparison?

Because unlike Justin Bieber, Rihanna and Kei$ha - Nirvana actually had some great music, had one of the most iconic albums ever in "Nevermind" and are generally regarded as a half decent band.

Now go back and listen to your "Best of Celine Dion" album.

FearDark

Almaviva wrote: »

Not popular music though. 'Mach' is classical.

"Sex Farm Woman" from that album is possibly the greatest song of the 20th century.

Freddie59

Music is Universal. Some of us like some that others don't. This is the beauty of it. Don't shut it out. Me? I like most music, apart from Jazz and Rap (and I'll even listen to some of that).

Life's too short!

One of my favourites from what you have listed above:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phxubmdqsMM

theg81der

Anyone point out that we`ve been breeding like rabbits and there is simply more people with more disposable income on our rock?! Nothing else to it and your music was "pop" music at one time as was mozart etc in that period and when people get OLD lol they look back nostalgic and say their pop music was real music.