the english can't pronounce "ing"

fryup

The english are always taking the mickey out of us for not being able to pronounce our TH's ...but have you ever noticed they can't pronounce "ing" at the end of words it becomes "ink"

something > someth'ink nothing > noth'ink looking > look'ink

chin_grin

Didn't you have another thread that was locked as it was in the wrong place?

I can see the same think happenink here.

Celly Smunt

i say nu'in for nothing so i dont think i can talk

same with aaahin for anything


Stupid Dublin accent.

Saila

fryup wrote: »

The english are always taking the mickey out of us for not being able to pronounce our TH's ...but have you ever noticed they can't pronounce "ing" at the end of words it becomes "ink"

something > someth'ink nothing > noth'ink looking > look'ink

its nufink

Antomus Prime

dont forget replacing TH with F.... noFink, someFink,

awh too slow..........

Chuck Stone

Northerners leave the g off the end of the ing (myself included).

Accents are what makes spoken language interesting OP.

Antomus Prime

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Northerners leave the g of the end of the ing (myself included).

Understanding each other are what makes spoken language interesting OP.

FYP :pac:

Fratton Fred

Remember girls, if you don't feel nuttin, hit that button.

Latchy

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Northerners leave the g of the end of the ing (myself included).

Accents are what makes spoken language interesting OP.

Indeed and the variation of regional dialects and accents of the English are just as diverse and interesting as the Irish.

Fratton Fred

Saila wrote: »

its nufink

In London it is, in Manchester it's nowt.

Antomus Prime

Fratton Fred wrote: »

In London it is, in Manchester it's nowt.

And something is "summit"

ejmaztec

In before someone says that the English can't pronounce "sorry".






:pac:

stimpson

ejmaztec wrote: »

In before someone says that the English can't pronounce "sorry".

Yeah, they're all like "excuse me"

Dotrel

The English should definitely try to go back to when they used to speaka the lingo proper and wotnot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toLbQd9uriI

Latchy

''You'se aint commin into moi effin pubb ...nah sling yer ook ''

summerskin

it's southerners who can't pronounce it, just like they put an "r" in "drawing".

Up north we speak properly.........apart from the words "to" and "the" not existing. i.e. "are we going t'pub?"

summerskin

Antomus Prime wrote: »

And something is "summit"

more like "summat" really. Nowt wrong wi' that.

foxyboxer

English English

Nigel: All right, my son: I could've had it away with this cracking Julie, my old China.
Austin: Are you telling pork-pies and a bag of trout? Because if you are feeling quigly, why not just have a J. Arthur?
Nigel: What, billy no mates?
Austin: Too right, youth.
Nigel: Don't you remember the crimbo din-din we had with the grotty Scots bint?
Austin: Oh, the one that was all sixes and sevens!
Nigel: Yeah, yeah, she was the trouble and strife of the Morris dancer what lived up the apples and pears!
Austin: She was the barrister what become a bobby in a lorry and...
Austin & Nigel: --tea kettle!
Nigel: And then, and then--
Austin & Nigel: She shat on a turtle!

summerskin

foxyboxer wrote: »

English English

Nigel: All right, my son: I could've had it away with this cracking Julie, my old China.
Austin: Are you telling pork-pies and a bag of trout? Because if you are feeling quigly, why not just have a J. Arthur?
Nigel: What, billy no mates?
Austin: Too right, youth.
Nigel: Don't you remember the crimbo din-din we had with the grotty Scots bint?
Austin: Oh, the one that was all sixes and sevens!
Nigel: Yeah, yeah, she was the trouble and strife of the Morris dancer what lived up the apples and pears!
Austin: She was the barrister what become a bobby in a lorry and...
Austin & Nigel: --tea kettle!
Nigel: And then, and then--
Austin & Nigel: She shat on a turtle!

i'm english and can't understand that. never heard anyone speak like that anywhere (other than irish or american sketch shows etc)!

Chuck Stone

I love the S.W. English accent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAh_A7N3_mc

headmaster

What I really notice of late is the way in which teenagers and young people speak. It's impossible to understand what they are saying. The speed at which they speak, the pronunciation, never mind the ridiculous accents. I'm guessing it must have a lot to do with texting, etc. Thing is though, they really cannot speak properly and on a one to one, cannot communicate at all, only in groups.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Northerners leave the g off the end of the ing (myself included).

Accents are what makes spoken language interesting OP.

Most people in the west don't pronounce them either.

summerskin

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

Most people in the west don't pronounce them either.

if you mean south west, that may be true. in the west and north-west they certainly do pronounce them.

goose2005

DIS TREAD IS MAD OR SUTIN

The King of Moo

I don't get why people get so hung up on differences of pronunciation between different English-speaker accents, especially when it's clear what the person is saying.

First off, not all English people pronounce "ing" as "ink." Those who do are probably in a minority.

Second, if you were to include every way in which people pronounce words or sounds differently from what is perceived to be the standard, you'd never get finished.

Do you get annoyed by the way most Americans pronounce "whales" and "Wales" the same way?

Anyway, there's effectively no such thing as standard, "correct" English, and that's the beauty of it.

It's an amazing language, allowing for an incredible level of variation while still allowing for easy comprehension between English-speakers from vastly different backgrounds.

Why you be straight trippin' 'bout these differences feen, innit?

Doc Ruby

fryup wrote: »

The english are always taking the mickey out of us for not being able to pronounce our TH's ...but have you ever noticed they can't pronounce "ing" at the end of words it becomes "ink"

something > someth'ink nothing > noth'ink looking > look'ink

Its probably a holdover from the original German. I reckon theres not much left of English if you take away the French, Gaelic, and German parts.

I was talking to a French woman the last day and she said, "oh I forgot the answer to that question, I had a how do you say, a white moment"... I puzzled my head for a minute till I realised that "white" in French is "blanc"->"blank".

Now wasn't that interesting.

keano_afc

They seem to have trouble pronouncing anything that is remotely Irish, even if they try say it phonetically. Galway becomes Ghoul-way, Donegal is alway Donagh-gall and Cahill becomes Cay-hill. Thats all I can think of off the top of my head but watching something like Sky News/Sports if there's a story from Ireland can be so cringeworthy.

ejmaztec

Doc Ruby wrote: »

Its probably a holdover from the original German. I reckon theres not much left of English if you take away the French, Gaelic, and German parts.

I was talking to a French woman the last day and she said, "oh I forgot the answer to that question, I had a how do you say, a white moment"... I puzzled my head for a minute till I realised that "white" in French is "blanc"->"blank".

Now wasn't that interesting.

That would be "the other day" in England.

Latchy

Johnaton Woss pronounces ' Fred ' as ' F'wed ' .

ejmaztec

Latchy wrote: »

Johnaton Woss pronounces ' Fred ' as ' F'wed ' .

Woss is wubbish.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

I don't pronounce the 't' at the end of words like 'What', it's more like 'Whoh'. No 'g' at the ends of 'ings' or 'y' in the middle of some words so be like 'Anntin' instead of 'Anything'.

TL;DR - I'm a bogger from the midlands.

Dozen Wicked Words

Potato starts with a P not a B, that is all.

summerskin

keano_afc wrote: »

They seem to have trouble pronouncing anything that is remotely Irish, even if they try say it phonetically. Galway becomes Ghoul-way, Donegal is alway Donagh-gall and Cahill becomes Cay-hill. Thats all I can think of off the top of my head but watching something like Sky News/Sports if there's a story from Ireland can be so cringeworthy.

i agree. when they talk about Keith Fahy it becomes "Fawhee".

it's the same on irish sports shows when they mispronounce Birming-HAM (it's Birmingum) and SunderLAND (it's Sunderluhnd)

The King of Moo

keano_afc wrote: »

They seem to have trouble pronouncing anything that is remotely Irish, even if they try say it phonetically. Galway becomes Ghoul-way, Donegal is alway Donagh-gall and Cahill becomes Cay-hill. Thats all I can think of off the top of my head but watching something like Sky News/Sports if there's a story from Ireland can be so cringeworthy.

That's true, but I think that can be attributed to accent differences. Having a vowel followed by a "h" or "h" sound like in "Cahill," "Doherty" or "Gallagher" is not something you find so often in English names, so lots of English people struggle a bit with them.

I think it works both ways as well: I heard an RTÉ reporter mispronounce "Southwark," pronouncing it phonetically, and I'm pretty sure I heard another mispronounce "Berkshire" recently.
And lots of us would struggle with names like "Worcestershire" and "St.John," and I think most people round the world not only mispronounce Evelyn Waugh's first name, but get his gender wrong too!

kumate_champ07

African Americans seem to always pronounce ask as axe, at least on tv and in movies, I dont see many of them in Ireland

Fratton Fred

summerskin wrote: »

i agree. when they talk about Keith Fahy it becomes "Fawhee".

it's the same on irish sports shows when they mispronounce Birming-HAM (it's Birmingum) and SunderLAND (it's Sunderluhnd)

Irish reporters also say Ports-Mouth instead of its correct pronunciation which is Portsmuff.

Dotrel

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

African Americans seem to always pronounce ask as axe, at least on tv and in movies, I dont see many of them in Ireland

and they get defensive if you axe them why.

cynder

fryup wrote: »

The english are always taking the mickey out of us for not being able to pronounce our TH's ...but have you ever noticed they can't pronounce "ing" at the end of words it becomes "ink"

something > someth'ink nothing > noth'ink looking > look'ink

Yet the irish dont pronounce the ing the irsh say in like nothin, lookin, somethin.

I grew up in the uk and we all said ing it was drummed into us. when i moved back to ireland at age 8 the school kids kept telling me that i was saying ing and that it wasnt right..

Fratton Fred

The King of Moo wrote: »

That's true, but I think that can be attributed to accent differences. Having a vowel followed by a "h" or "h" sound like in "Cahill," "Doherty" or "Gallagher" is not something you find so often in English names, so lots of English people struggle a bit with them.

I think it works both ways as well: I heard an RTÉ reporter mispronounce "Southwark," pronouncing it phonetically, and I'm pretty sure I heard another mispronounce "Berkshire" recently.
And lots of us would struggle with names like "Worcestershire" and "St.John," and I think most people round the world not only mispronounce Evelyn Waugh's first name, but get his gender wrong too!

In England we tend to use the American pronunciation. Like Ma-Ho-Nee instead of Marney for Mahoney or Dokerty instead of Doherty.

Latchy

ejmaztec wrote: »

Woss is wubbish.

The BBC and it's licence paying tv viewers /radio listeners thought so to .

chasm

fryup wrote: »

The english are always taking the mickey out of us for not being able to pronounce our TH's ...but have you ever noticed they can't pronounce "ing" at the end of words it becomes "ink"

something > someth'ink nothing > noth'ink looking > look'ink

The pronunciation of "ing" as "ink" is common around London and parts of the surrounding counties, but not overly common elsewhere, so i wouldn't say it's an english thing tbh, not even sure it could be classed as a dialect either. Pronouncing "Th" as "F" is more common in England.

However the pronunciation of "Th" as "T" (as in Thirty= turty, three= tree) is common all over Ireland, i have heard teachers pronounce it like that, and reporters on the news! To make matters worse because people pronounce it like that they go on to spell/write it like that too - boards is full of "treads" and donedeal is full of "threadmills" in the gym equipment catergory!

Latchy

In England they will also say Kav-an-nah instead of Kavanagh and Moran will not have the syllable dragged out but just as one sound ' Moran'.

The King of Moo

Fratton Fred wrote: »

In England we tend to use the American pronunciation. Like Ma-Ho-Nee instead of Marney for Mahoney or Dokerty instead of Doherty.

Yeah, I've noticed that, those pronunciations seem to lend themselves better to English accents.

The same way we say "Pyoo-zho" instead of "Peh-zho" for "Peugeot" as it's more natural to say the former with an Irish accent.


And with regards to the thread title and opening post, I hope the OP is aware he's leaving himself open to all sorts of "Irish people can't use capital letters" accusations .

ejmaztec

Fratton Fred wrote: »

In England we tend to use the American pronunciation. Like Ma-Ho-Nee instead of Marney for Mahoney or Dokerty instead of Doherty.

One of my kids came home from school a bit confused because one of her teachers was talking about Westminister instead of Westminster. To this day, that teacher won't be told that she's wrong.

Doc Ruby

ejmaztec wrote: »

That would be "the other day" in England.

Or "de uvva doi".

GavRedKing

No English I've ever heard of comes from Merseyside.

Latchy

gavredking wrote: »

No English I've ever heard of comes from Merseyside.

I'm pretty sure they understood you fine to when you where last over there .

ejmaztec

Doc Ruby wrote: »

Or "de uvva doi".

No, that would be Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins.

Latchy

ejmaztec wrote: »

No, that would be Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins.

The worst American doing an English accent ...'Evah '

amortentia

I'm English and moved here when I was around 10 (now 18) and still have my accent. I think a lot of people in general don't realise how difficult it is to physically pronounce certain letters in words when you grew up not pronouncing them! Like I have to strain to pronounce an "R" or sometimes "L" at the end of a syllable such as in words like "circle", or "four". Plus I sound like an idiot if I try, so I don't. Actually "L"'s are easier to say, but for the longest time I just couldn't. So sometimes (usually country people) don't understand what I'm saying/think I have a speech impediment until they realise that I actually have an English accent?!

I think it works both ways as well: I heard an RTÉ reporter mispronounce "Southwark," pronouncing it phonetically, and I'm pretty sure I heard another mispronounce "Berkshire" recently.
And lots of us would struggle with names like "Worcestershire" and "St.John," and I think most people round the world not only mispronounce Evelyn Waugh's first name, but get his gender wrong too!

And its the "TEMZ" not the "Thhhhayyms". Rarely comes up in conversation but I've heard it multiple times over the years :P

ejmaztec

In before Brummytom tells us about the slices of mate his mother puts on his sanwidgis.