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Greater Dublin Drainage

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  • Registered Users Posts: 23 Scipio76


    NCD has it's WWTP under control. Its Dublin city and the D15 and Meath/Kildare areas looking to have their waste treated in NCD that's the main issue.

    In answer to your question lots of reed beds, much more than would be palatable....

    Anyhow. Fingal Co.Co told me they will not publish the methodology used to evaluate the 9 land parcels under consideration.
    They also only have Archaeological and flooding data under consideration, and have not considered any of the 10,000 submissions made by the public to consider the most suitable site for a 20 hectare site of land in theses parcels.

    They also only have documents from 2005 to estimate the cost of the project. sher nothin's changed since then.

    If their cost estimates date from 2005 then they can shave about 30% off of the construction costs for starters.

    I would have thought the primary considerations would be site purchase cost, ground conditions and most importantly proximity to the coast. I'd be very surprised if any non-coastal locations on the shortlist will be seriously considered. Lusk seems the obvious option at this stage.

    I'd still be interested to hear their reasoning for knocking Portrane on the head. It seems an ideal location but they say it was not political pressure that made them rule it out. So what was it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    Scipio76 wrote: »
    A reed bed treatment plant to serve a population equivalent of 750,000? About the same land mass as the Ukraine.
    Um, wha? Ukraine is the second biggest country in Europe after Russia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,407 ✭✭✭Cardinal Richelieu


    Scipio76 wrote: »
    A reed bed treatment plant to serve a population equivalent of 750,000? About the same land mass as the Ukraine. Whoever suggested that doesn't have a breeze what they're on about.

    Ex Government Junior Minister, might explain the mess we are in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    Scipio76 wrote: »
    I'd still be interested to hear their reasoning for knocking Portrane on the head. It seems an ideal location but they say it was not political pressure that made them rule it out. So what was it?
    Proximity to Rogerstown estuary.....
    Which is where half of the Lusk sites are beside, and some are even closer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,407 ✭✭✭Cardinal Richelieu


    Scipio76 wrote: »
    I'd still be interested to hear their reasoning for knocking Portrane on the head. It seems an ideal location but they say it was not political pressure that made them rule it out. So what was it?

    Full reason here why they didn't choose Portrane.

    http://www.fingal-independent.ie/news/portrane-located-within-a-highly-sensitive-landscape-2909292.html
    Proximity to Rogerstown estuary.....
    Which is where half of the Lusk sites are beside, and some are even closer

    By some you mean one?

    drainage-map.jpg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    http://www.greaterdublindrainage.com/2012/04/16/gdd-asa-p1-consultation-rp/
    pr spin link

    http://www.greaterdublindrainage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/MDB0254RP0014-ASA-Consultation-With-Apps-F01.pdf
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    There is still no cost constraint on the project, and no mention of hiving it off to the gas board.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 Scipio76


    http://www.greaterdublindrainage.com/2012/04/16/gdd-asa-p1-consultation-rp/
    pr spin link

    http://www.greaterdublindrainage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/MDB0254RP0014-ASA-Consultation-With-Apps-F01.pdf
    report link

    There is still no cost constraint on the project, and no mention of hiving it off to the gas board.

    Irish Water (which it seems will be a subsidiary of Bord Gais) will be the procuring body by the time this project gets off the ground. The water services divisions of all the local authorities will be transferred into the new entity.

    As for price it's very difficult to put any meaningful figure on the project until such time as a location is selected and we have some idea of when it will go to tender. Past experience (the Luas comes to mind) is that putting out cost estimates at too early a stage just creates hostages to fortune at a later date.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,845 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan




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